Bro Franklin, before making any public statement, get your facts correct first. People are so bad to assume it is the truth. You should now make a public apology if you have any credibility.
President Trump said he did not say it. Two Senators in the room who have a better reputation than Durbin said he didn’t say it.
Brother be careful not to judge so quickly.
Oh the biggest liar to ever be born is telling the truth. O M G where has the morals gone to in this country. The republicans will sayanthing to save their butts.
Joe Met it is true that many who supported Trump from day one are now turning and have to cover for their constituency, but how do we still know that the words were or were not said for fact? And actually, the words matter little – it is the racist load behind them that is discussed here
Tom Steele here’s a great example. Respect the emperor but speak against the evil empire when in contradicts with God Almighty He is not an American Jesus – Great Grace!
Troy Day:
I have already expressed my feelings about the situation, so no need to go into that.
But I do agree with you “Respect the emperor but speak against the evil empire when in contradicts with God Almighty He is not an American Jesus – Great Grace!”
this NEW CT article William DeArteaga is a GREAT example WHY evangelical leaders should NOT mingle with politics I respect Franklin greatly – all Franklin preachers in politics ; I do not fully agree with the CT article by the so called lone writer He is NOT a lone writer – the editor of CT wrote in FULL agreement with CT staff but this is another story of morals and political struggle
The problem there is franklin Jr has no control over CT which he considers to be his fathers creation So long to fraternal orders IMO So because CT cannot be used for his political campaigning he threw them under the bus time and time again Well not ALL evangelicals agree with CT or with Franklin Jr We are still a free country right? Freedom of speech and religion RIGHT? not just what we are ordered by fraternal orders and our supreme church leaders – right?
NOW then yet another Franklin comes along to reject CT and make them non – evangelical But they are And they are very very southern baptist and not so much with Trump – now then when I come to Jentzens statement
Socialism was on the rise and our religious liberties as citizens, business owners, and even clergy were being threatened at greater levels than any other time in modern history.
this alone tells me he should NOT be in politics especially in the seat of advisory He could be spiritual whatever but should be silent about politics cause he aint got a clue I bet his church conglomerate is run more like socialism than America would ever be BUT I Will leave my comments for later …
for now just like M Brown, jentzen wants the good of America via Trump but is confused and in deep moral crises when POTUS behaves as a heeden Well not just todays issue Was the issue of the 3-4th century church which sided with the Empire and the every church ever since that has sided with any empire
Welcome to Evangelical catholicism – more socialist that America will ever be! Long live the Republic …
Plenty of publications, including the editorial boards of many of the nation’s leading daily newspapers, have run pieces in recent weeks calling for the president’s impeachment and ouster, but all have gone ignored by the Republican.
This one, however, prompted an angry Twitter response.
“A far left magazine, or very ‘progressive,’ as some would call it, which has been doing poorly and hasn’t been involved with the Billy Graham family for many years, Christianity Today, knows nothing about reading a perfect transcript of a routine phone call and would rather have a Radical Left nonbeliever, who wants to take your religion & your guns, than Donald Trump as your President,” he wrote. “No President has done more for the Evangelical community, and it’s not even close. You’ll not get anything from those Dems on stage. I won’t be reading ET again!”
“In an unwittingly self-revealing moment, Trump responded to the magazine’s indictment of his profound moral failings with an argument that is thoroughly transactional and megalomaniacal: How dare you criticize me, after all the power I’ve granted to your movement? You’re breaking our deal, and now you’re dead to me.”
Exactly. The president seems to believe he’s bought the fealty of certain constituencies, and when he learns otherwise, he lashes out angrily.
this NEW CT article William DeArteaga is a GREAT example WHY evangelical leaders should NOT mingle with politics I respect Franklin greatly – all Franklin preachers in politics ; I do not fully agree with the CT article by the so called lone writer He is NOT a lone writer – the editor of CT wrote in FULL agreement with CT staff but this is another story of morals and political struggle
The problem there is franklin Jr has no control over CT which he considers to be his fathers creation So long to fraternal orders IMO So because CT cannot be used for his political campaigning he threw them under the bus time and time again Well not ALL evangelicals agree with CT or with Franklin Jr We are still a free country right? Freedom of speech and religion RIGHT? not just what we are ordered by fraternal orders and our supreme church leaders – right?
NOW then yet another Franklin comes along to reject CT and make them non – evangelical But they are And they are very very southern baptist and not so much with Trump – now then when I come to Jentzens statement
Socialism was on the rise and our religious liberties as citizens, business owners, and even clergy were being threatened at greater levels than any other time in modern history.
this alone tells me he should NOT be in politics especially in the seat of advisory He could be spiritual whatever but should be silent about politics cause he aint got a clue I bet his church conglomerate is run more like socialism than America would ever be BUT I Will leave my comments for later …
for now just like M Brown, jentzen wants the good of America via Trump but is confused and in deep moral crises when POTUS behaves as a heeden Well not just todays issue Was the issue of the 3-4th century church which sided with the Empire and the every church ever since that has sided with any empire
Welcome to Evangelical catholicism – more socialist that America will ever be! Long live the Republic …
Melvin Harter
Bro Franklin, before making any public statement, get your facts correct first. People are so bad to assume it is the truth. You should now make a public apology if you have any credibility.
Varnel Watson
Was Bro Franklin present at those meetings ? He seems to speak of deep personal conviction and first hand knowledge
Jeffrey L Gowen
President Trump said he did not say it. Two Senators in the room who have a better reputation than Durbin said he didn’t say it.
Brother be careful not to judge so quickly.
Barb Spaid
Oh the biggest liar to ever be born is telling the truth. O M G where has the morals gone to in this country. The republicans will sayanthing to save their butts.
Caswell Adolph Leonard
Finally!
Grover Katzmarek Sr
So sad to go against scripture
Varnel Watson
Many OT prophets disobeyed ungodly kings and their idol worshiping laws
If Martin Luther the King did not disobey state law we would still be under Jim Crow segregation
Should the church listen to its Godly pastors or prodigal politicians? Come on now http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/the-biblical-mandate-for-disobeying-unjust-laws/
Joe Met
He doesn’t really know that the President said that. He is accusing him to cover up for himself supporting Trump from day one.
Varnel Watson
Joe Met it is true that many who supported Trump from day one are now turning and have to cover for their constituency, but how do we still know that the words were or were not said for fact? And actually, the words matter little – it is the racist load behind them that is discussed here
Varnel Watson
Tom Steele here’s a great example. Respect the emperor but speak against the evil empire when in contradicts with God Almighty He is not an American Jesus – Great Grace!
Scotty Searan
Troy Day:
I have already expressed my feelings about the situation, so no need to go into that.
But I do agree with you “Respect the emperor but speak against the evil empire when in contradicts with God Almighty He is not an American Jesus – Great Grace!”
Varnel Watson
this NEW CT article William DeArteaga is a GREAT example WHY evangelical leaders should NOT mingle with politics I respect Franklin greatly – all Franklin preachers in politics ; I do not fully agree with the CT article by the so called lone writer He is NOT a lone writer – the editor of CT wrote in FULL agreement with CT staff but this is another story of morals and political struggle
The problem there is franklin Jr has no control over CT which he considers to be his fathers creation So long to fraternal orders IMO So because CT cannot be used for his political campaigning he threw them under the bus time and time again Well not ALL evangelicals agree with CT or with Franklin Jr We are still a free country right? Freedom of speech and religion RIGHT? not just what we are ordered by fraternal orders and our supreme church leaders – right?
NOW then yet another Franklin comes along to reject CT and make them non – evangelical But they are And they are very very southern baptist and not so much with Trump – now then when I come to Jentzens statement
Socialism was on the rise and our religious liberties as citizens, business owners, and even clergy were being threatened at greater levels than any other time in modern history.
this alone tells me he should NOT be in politics especially in the seat of advisory He could be spiritual whatever but should be silent about politics cause he aint got a clue I bet his church conglomerate is run more like socialism than America would ever be BUT I Will leave my comments for later …
for now just like M Brown, jentzen wants the good of America via Trump but is confused and in deep moral crises when POTUS behaves as a heeden Well not just todays issue Was the issue of the 3-4th century church which sided with the Empire and the every church ever since that has sided with any empire
Welcome to Evangelical catholicism – more socialist that America will ever be! Long live the Republic …
Varnel Watson
THE EVANGELICAL VOTE in 2020 is AT STAKE
Plenty of publications, including the editorial boards of many of the nation’s leading daily newspapers, have run pieces in recent weeks calling for the president’s impeachment and ouster, but all have gone ignored by the Republican.
This one, however, prompted an angry Twitter response.
“A far left magazine, or very ‘progressive,’ as some would call it, which has been doing poorly and hasn’t been involved with the Billy Graham family for many years, Christianity Today, knows nothing about reading a perfect transcript of a routine phone call and would rather have a Radical Left nonbeliever, who wants to take your religion & your guns, than Donald Trump as your President,” he wrote. “No President has done more for the Evangelical community, and it’s not even close. You’ll not get anything from those Dems on stage. I won’t be reading ET again!”
“In an unwittingly self-revealing moment, Trump responded to the magazine’s indictment of his profound moral failings with an argument that is thoroughly transactional and megalomaniacal: How dare you criticize me, after all the power I’ve granted to your movement? You’re breaking our deal, and now you’re dead to me.”
Exactly. The president seems to believe he’s bought the fealty of certain constituencies, and when he learns otherwise, he lashes out angrily.
THE EVANGELICAL VOTE in 2020 is AT STAKE
Varnel Watson
this NEW CT article William DeArteaga is a GREAT example WHY evangelical leaders should NOT mingle with politics I respect Franklin greatly – all Franklin preachers in politics ; I do not fully agree with the CT article by the so called lone writer He is NOT a lone writer – the editor of CT wrote in FULL agreement with CT staff but this is another story of morals and political struggle
The problem there is franklin Jr has no control over CT which he considers to be his fathers creation So long to fraternal orders IMO So because CT cannot be used for his political campaigning he threw them under the bus time and time again Well not ALL evangelicals agree with CT or with Franklin Jr We are still a free country right? Freedom of speech and religion RIGHT? not just what we are ordered by fraternal orders and our supreme church leaders – right?
NOW then yet another Franklin comes along to reject CT and make them non – evangelical But they are And they are very very southern baptist and not so much with Trump – now then when I come to Jentzens statement
Socialism was on the rise and our religious liberties as citizens, business owners, and even clergy were being threatened at greater levels than any other time in modern history.
this alone tells me he should NOT be in politics especially in the seat of advisory He could be spiritual whatever but should be silent about politics cause he aint got a clue I bet his church conglomerate is run more like socialism than America would ever be BUT I Will leave my comments for later …
for now just like M Brown, jentzen wants the good of America via Trump but is confused and in deep moral crises when POTUS behaves as a heeden Well not just todays issue Was the issue of the 3-4th century church which sided with the Empire and the every church ever since that has sided with any empire
Welcome to Evangelical catholicism – more socialist that America will ever be! Long live the Republic …
Varnel Watson
YES William DeArteaga the time of your article is at hand https://www.christianpost.com/news/nearly-200-evangelical-leaders-slam-christianity-today-for-questioning-their-christian-witness.html?fbclid=IwAR3QpeWX5I0tR4P3aTeip6JtvMjgaO5kS8Yq-QG0ceTDVUu_W1nCOVWI-CQ
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