church is meant to be home groups, so it is good that Trump is funnelling us believers into home groups. But not good if members dont tithe to denominations anymore?
RichardAnna Boyce getting to the 7 churches of Revelation it is pretty clear house to house had been abandoned long ago around the falling of Jerusalem in 70AD – a city not mentioned among the 7 churches which are in modern-day Turkey diasporas and not even in Israel – just think about it
Troy Day the life of any church today, especially mega churches, is home groups. Rom 12 motivational gifts suggest 14 is ideal number of small group. 7 motivational group leaders training up 7 others to start a new home group, to multiply as denominational large group meetings are replaced by corporate worship of Jesus on TV or other media.
The idea of not gathering in a building for church, attending March Madness games, and other large events is to flatten the infection rate of the virus, so hospitals will be able to attend to the sick. Sounds like a good idea and not something the anti christ would like to see. He wants lots of infections to overwealm the heath care system and have many to die. It is not going to hurt anybody’s faith to hole up for a while and let this thing slow down. Who know, April and warm weather may stop it or slow it down without any of our help.
HOW do we know that? Do you personally know anyone who has coronavirus Have you examined them WHO told you all this information ? TV? The internet – liberally controlled media? Deep state 9? Ricky Grimsley
Ricky Grimsley Gary Micheal Epping honest NONE argumentative and logical thinking is required here ISNT THIS the greatest STRESS TEST for the church you have lived through?
for some of us old timers Jim Price Ray E Horton William DeArteaga I would say its the greatest test since WW2
Not old enough to remember WWII., but I have indeed never seen anything like this. I think the Church proved itself timid in is healing self-confidence.
Troy Day I was glad our church met and we actively joined in the National Day of Prayer Sunday morning. Together, we took authority over this virus, in Jesus name. Yes, this is a test for the church? Will we stand strong and united in prayer, and be of service to the community. There was a multi-church gathering for united prayer and worship in Erie last Friday, a powerful experience.
The Bible does not require the church to have large meetings. The house church proved to be the answer when the missionaries were thrown out of China. Everyone thought the death march for Christianity had begun in that country. That ‘stress test’ for the church was as great or greater than the one we now face. Families can still meet together in their homes. Who knows maybe these trials will make our faith stronger. Don’t mean to be argumentative with you Troy, but a shut down of all large meetings, even in the Church, is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if it will save lives during the course of this great trial.
This is not likely the Great Tribulation. And if it was, the Lord would protect his people during that time of trial. Sheepfolds, remember? Troy, you need to reconsider your stance on current shutdowns as many people are listening to you. If you want to keep large church meeting going in defiance to govt authorities, then why not get behind reinstating March Madness, and call for opening the schools back up. Tnat is a formula for spiking the infection rte, resulting in many manyy unneeded deaths. The devil would love it. “It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States, In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one.” Many critically ill people, especially, those over 65, would not be able to receive treatment and die. This is currently happening in Italy, where the hospitals are being overwhelmed. May God help us, as they are now proposing not treating people over 80 years old.
Who infected Australian government Peter Dutton, after he met Trump’s daughter and other American Republicans who have since isolated themselves. Why hasn’t Trump’s wife been seen in public, when Mrs Bush was seen in a public role in these circumstances?
Your other coronavirus denyer Boris, seems to be at last giving up his coronavirus experiment with the British people. What does Wall St say about coronavirus?
Varnel Watson
Id say that would be the case William DeArteaga Joe Absher Gary Micheal Epping RichardAnna Boyce Isara Mo
RichardAnna Boyce
church is meant to be home groups, so it is good that Trump is funnelling us believers into home groups. But not good if members dont tithe to denominations anymore?
Varnel Watson
RichardAnna Boyce IF its meant to be a home group what were they doing in Revelation? Ricky Grimsley
Ricky Grimsley
They went from house to house.
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley Did they now? And whose house did they go to and from with the 7 Revelation city churches?
Ricky Grimsley
Troy Day unknown
RichardAnna Boyce
house to house for ministry and fellowship; but corporate worship to God in heaven.
Varnel Watson
RichardAnna Boyce getting to the 7 churches of Revelation it is pretty clear house to house had been abandoned long ago around the falling of Jerusalem in 70AD – a city not mentioned among the 7 churches which are in modern-day Turkey diasporas and not even in Israel – just think about it
RichardAnna Boyce
Troy Day the life of any church today, especially mega churches, is home groups. Rom 12 motivational gifts suggest 14 is ideal number of small group. 7 motivational group leaders training up 7 others to start a new home group, to multiply as denominational large group meetings are replaced by corporate worship of Jesus on TV or other media.
Gary Micheal Epping
The idea of not gathering in a building for church, attending March Madness games, and other large events is to flatten the infection rate of the virus, so hospitals will be able to attend to the sick. Sounds like a good idea and not something the anti christ would like to see. He wants lots of infections to overwealm the heath care system and have many to die. It is not going to hurt anybody’s faith to hole up for a while and let this thing slow down. Who know, April and warm weather may stop it or slow it down without any of our help.
Varnel Watson
HOW do we know that? Do you personally know anyone who has coronavirus Have you examined them WHO told you all this information ? TV? The internet – liberally controlled media? Deep state 9? Ricky Grimsley
Gary Micheal Epping
You have to use your brain, Troy. If the infection rate is slowed, then fewer people will need to go to the hospital all at once, lessening the pressure of overcrowding. People may still get it, but it is spread out rather than everyone getting it all at one. It also buys time for a vaccine to be developed. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/03/13/why-everything-is-closing-for-coronavirus-its-called-flattening-the-curve/#3cf9f14e6e2b
Varnel Watson
Gary Micheal Epping wouldnt that exactly what the antiChrist would tell the ppl ? http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/government-response-updates-trump-issues-stricter-guidelines-to-stop-virus-spread/ar-BB11gOhC?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=HPDHP
RichardAnna Boyce
Troy Day even your hero, coronavirus denyer Tricky Trump, is being humbled at last.
Anthony Christchild
If you need church that bad you missed something and we who call ourselves leaders need to ask what we have led them to
Varnel Watson
and you missed the point of the post entirely
Anthony Christchild
Troy Day forgive me
Varnel Watson
Anthony Christchild thou art forgiven my son
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley Gary Micheal Epping honest NONE argumentative and logical thinking is required here ISNT THIS the greatest STRESS TEST for the church you have lived through?
for some of us old timers Jim Price Ray E Horton William DeArteaga I would say its the greatest test since WW2
William DeArteaga
Not old enough to remember WWII., but I have indeed never seen anything like this. I think the Church proved itself timid in is healing self-confidence.
Ray E Horton
Troy Day I was glad our church met and we actively joined in the National Day of Prayer Sunday morning. Together, we took authority over this virus, in Jesus name. Yes, this is a test for the church? Will we stand strong and united in prayer, and be of service to the community. There was a multi-church gathering for united prayer and worship in Erie last Friday, a powerful experience.
Varnel Watson
Jim Price is right there with me I think
Gary Micheal Epping
The Bible does not require the church to have large meetings. The house church proved to be the answer when the missionaries were thrown out of China. Everyone thought the death march for Christianity had begun in that country. That ‘stress test’ for the church was as great or greater than the one we now face. Families can still meet together in their homes. Who knows maybe these trials will make our faith stronger. Don’t mean to be argumentative with you Troy, but a shut down of all large meetings, even in the Church, is not necessarily a bad thing, especially if it will save lives during the course of this great trial.
Peter Nilsen
Yes and he does not want President Trump in office.
Varnel Watson
you know what the antiChrist wants? Ricky Grimsley
Varnel Watson
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/03/16/mitt-romney-proposes-sending-americans-dollar1000-to-deal-with-coronavirus-downturn/23951917/
Varnel Watson
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/government-response-updates-trump-issues-stricter-guidelines-to-stop-virus-spread/ar-BB11gOhC?li=BBnb7Kz&OCID=HPDHP
Varnel Watson
Gary Micheal Epping I will let you user your brains and answer this
1 Do you personally know anyone who has coronavirus
2. Have you examined them
3. WHO told you all this information ?
4. TV? The internet – liberally controlled media?
5. Ricky Grimsley Deep state 9?
Gary Micheal Epping
Already responded to that in the other thread. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/03/13/why-everything-is-closing-for-coronavirus-its-called-flattening-the-curve/#3cf9f14e6e2b
Varnel Watson
Gary Micheal Epping I have lone asked HOW is the church going to survive during a possible Tribulation I am asking AGAIN
walmart is NOT taking online orders
is NOT delivering to home
is NOT doing curb pickup no more
and you can get only 2 of each like NOAH
yes – you can only get 2 eggs 🙂
Gary Micheal Epping
This is not likely the Great Tribulation. And if it was, the Lord would protect his people during that time of trial. Sheepfolds, remember? Troy, you need to reconsider your stance on current shutdowns as many people are listening to you. If you want to keep large church meeting going in defiance to govt authorities, then why not get behind reinstating March Madness, and call for opening the schools back up. Tnat is a formula for spiking the infection rte, resulting in many manyy unneeded deaths. The devil would love it. “It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States, In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one.” Many critically ill people, especially, those over 65, would not be able to receive treatment and die. This is currently happening in Italy, where the hospitals are being overwhelmed. May God help us, as they are now proposing not treating people over 80 years old.
RichardAnna Boyce
Who infected Australian government Peter Dutton, after he met Trump’s daughter and other American Republicans who have since isolated themselves. Why hasn’t Trump’s wife been seen in public, when Mrs Bush was seen in a public role in these circumstances?
Varnel Watson
SOMEONE tell me WHAT just happened here? Are we in a lock down home arrest curfew for the next 1/2 year?
WHAT PEOPLE SAY Augustu-July?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDN2xEEHUy8
RichardAnna Boyce
Your other coronavirus denyer Boris, seems to be at last giving up his coronavirus experiment with the British people. What does Wall St say about coronavirus?
Varnel Watson
walmart is NOT taking online orders
is NOT delivering to home
is NOT doing curb pickup no more
and you can get only 2 of each like NOAH
yes – you can only get 2 eggs 🙂