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When the RAPTURE happens…
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Pre-wrath rapture? It’s basically, just another fake-news theology
Pre-wrath rapture? It’s basically, just another fake-news theology The person who conceived the “Pre-Wrath” view of the Rapture was a man named Robert…
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This https://watcher.guru/news/worldcoin-people-line-up-to-scan-their-eyeballs-for-crypto-id in response to the silly comment by Anička Bubanová Yes because rapture will happen AFTER the great tribulation. It is therefore likely that many imprisoned Christians will leave their cells empty. – just speculations NO proof whatsoever on this one Duane L Burgess John Mushenhouse Jerome Herrick Weymouth
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the other GREAT comment Philip Williams was by Mike Harris whoS got a personal friend that has been imprisoned for 46 years. Jesus saved and changed him 36 years ago. He has won more people to the Lord than many pastors in churches.
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Byron Meko Lorenz Frank further attempted to convince us with THIS ->
Don’t be surprised when the pre-trib rapture doesn’t happen and many people are left unprepared for the tribulation because they held onto what’s seems right to a man instead of heeding the warnings of scripture. Darby brought such demonic doctrines into the church.
My professor at Bible College and yes it was a Pentecostal college use to say to the first year students, “ya I guess the left behind series is not that bad… you could look at porn… never mind left behind is worse!”
Hyperbole, but expresses the sentiment of how terrible the doctrine is
He is a New Testament scholar and holds a doctorate in New Testament.
The doctrine of pre-trib rapture is not biblical it’s man made!
to which Duane L Burgess was quick to respond with -> The Pre Trib rapture is taught in Scripture. Those who attribute this idea to Darby are totally clueless, entirely biblically and historically illiterate.
and we have to agree with Duane here against Kyle Williams and Oscar Valdez better judgment
Anonymous
Troy Day …Is Paul as crazy as you say Darby is, as he wrote about the pre-trib.-rapture back in the 50’s AD, when he wrote Corinthians and Thessalonians?
Anonymous
Skip Pauley The Pre Trib rapture is taught in Scripture. Those who attribute this idea to Darby are totally clueless, entirely biblically and historically illiterate.
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to the false attempt by Byron Meko Lorenz Frank to attribute RAPTURE to Darby or 1800s or other totally uninformed stances Duane L Burgess rightly responded:
When people stop reading Left Behind and read Scripture they find the biblical truth behind Left Behind.
Daniel 9 is the backbone of biblical prophecy. There is no biblical or historical fulfillment of Daniel’s 70th week.
To get prophecy and right we must embrace God’s unique distinctions for ethnic national Israel and for the Church.
No allegorizing, no spiritualizing, no replacement theology.
The problem is you have no understanding of biblical hermeneutics or exegesis.
No true saint of the living God is lethargic because of the rapture. That is completely ludicrous.
Sorry, but if you prefer to remain biblically illiterate go right ahead. You can deal with God about it later.
Anonymous
Brett Dobbs who is still looking for resurrection of the church in MT 24 attempted to share something smart here ->
Don’t be surprised when your persecuted for Jesus names sake and some of you and your peers are put to death. TO WHICH Philip Williams responded with :
OK, let’s prosecute the preachers, imprison them so they can be saved!
one can rightly assume here Michael Chauncey John Mushenhouse that none of the above is neither a preacher NOR knowledgeable enough on pre-trib
Anonymous
notably Dan Anthony Skip Pauley like quite a lot what Philip Williams suggested in quite the silly and laughable way. Supposed Skip Pauley agreed with Dan Anthony liking NOT knowing his total Jesus-only oneness in open disagreement with the BIBLICAL Trinity William Lance Huget Michael Womack and @everyone else…
Anonymous
Troy Day that’s because we are sola scriptura and don’t follow your Catholic beliefs. You place Catholic traditions above the inspired Scriptures.
Anonymous
Troy Day just quoting what Jesus was saying.
John 15:20-21 (KJV) 20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me.
Matthew 10:19-39 (KJV) 19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. 21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against [their] parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. 24 The disciple is not above [his] master, nor the servant above his lord. 25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more [shall they call] them of his household? 26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in darkness, [that] speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, [that] preach ye upon the housetops. 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man’s foes [shall be] they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
2 Thessalonians 1:3-12 (KJV) 3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth; 4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: 5 [Which is] a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: 6 Seeing [it is] a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. 11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of [this] calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of [his] goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
That’s what’s to be expected. So don’t be surprised when these like this occurs.
Anonymous
Brett Dobbs this proves NO resurrection in MT 24 for the church ? ?
Anonymous
RT John Mushenhouse to Mike Harris I looked up Marion County jail — 135 inmates. Try being at a 4,000 plus facility that was made for 1,600. Try being at one with many lifers due to a violent crime. Most have nothing to lose and are socialized into a prison lifestyle. I believe it would open your eyes. In my institute, many went to the chapel because it was air conditioned, and it was safe from those beating people up for the most part. There was a lot of drugs, gambling and rape as well. I remember when Chuck Colson came to get his picture taken for publicity. He went into the hole where we had the violent of the violent. Not one word was said to him, but the warden got a good cussing. Chuck took his pictures there and quickly left. He gave a sermon in the chapel, but being a Saturday and no work for most, few wanted to come. They gave out some privileges to get a crowd. It was quite the show.
BTW Marion County? seriously – you giving up your location ?
Anonymous
Troy Day no Mike Harris gave it up.. I remain out of the way and just a dot on the 2020 census.
Anonymous
John Mushenhouse so Mike Harris was short circuit and gave up?
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Troy Day not at all just tired of trying to debate with people that seem to know everything
Anonymous
Troy Day yes – He was condescending and supposing he was the only person that knew about prison ministry. I wish him success in his ministry, but there are many games played in the jailhouse.