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Henry Volk | PentecostalTheology.com
Wow…just wow. #ChristologyFail
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 12:48 PM]
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Henry Volk [12/11/2015 12:50 PM]
Victoria Osteen: “Jesus was man until God touched him and put the Spirit of the living God on the inside of him. How that’s encouraging today.”
Guy I don’t know: “No, that’s heretical.”
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 12:51 PM]
#WoW the whole differential b/w Jesus & God here
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 12:54 PM]
I can see how our oneness peeps are loving this John Conger
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 12:56 PM]
but Ricky Grimsley is with a more oneness reading – Jesus-man was a man until Jesus-God put in him the Jesus-Spirit. Now that’s encouraging today.” – – – “No, that’s heretical.” 🙂
Brody Pope [12/11/2015 1:06 PM]
Literally lol’d
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 2:19 PM]
THIS! Jesus’ Two Natures: God and Man by Matt Slick https://www.facebook.com/Victoriaosteenspage/posts/1050357881649460
Zach Smith [12/11/2015 3:29 PM]
Daniel Rushing
Patricia Gardner Smith [12/11/2015 3:53 PM]
Pure baloney from the garbage pit of hell!!!
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 4:06 PM]
Daniel Rushing Link Hudson and David M. Hinsen when you finish with your paper – your words on this pls Charles Page is good with it
David M. Hinsen [12/11/2015 4:23 PM]
Heresy
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 4:27 PM]
I’d like a Bible verse for WHEN and HOW God touched Jesus
Aaron Richards [12/11/2015 5:49 PM]
She is as bad as Joel…and that’s saying something!
Corey Forsyth [12/11/2015 5:59 PM]
Its like they don’t even own a Bible… They just make it up as they go along… Can someone please fire these people?!
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 6:09 PM]
Corey Forsyth It’s like the own the Bible!
John Conger [12/11/2015 8:47 PM]
Holy moly. I agree. They just make it up. Where do they get this nonsense? ??
Glynn Brown [12/11/2015 10:04 PM]
Sounds like adoptionist heresy
Sheryl Reynolds [12/12/2015 1:20 AM]
And she needs to sit down and shut up – there has never, ever, been a time when the Lord Jesus Christ was just a man – before time was – in eternity past and forever – He is God. Remember when Jesus went up to Jeruslem, to the temple? On the way back home Joseph and Mary realized He was not with them so they went back to Jerusalem and found Him with the scribes and priests and when they asked Him why He had not started home with everyone else He told them that He had been attending to His Father’s business. Even then, as a child, clothed in a human body like the rest of us, He knew He was the Son of God.
Kumar So Ao [12/12/2015 4:16 AM]
A men
John Kissinger [12/12/2015 7:35 AM]
Glynn Brown pretty sure since I’ve criticized even Dake for his sonship trinitairian theory while Charles Page called out dynamic monarchianism 🙂
Ricky Grimsley [12/12/2015 8:08 AM]
?Luke 2:52 KJVS [52] And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.?
Peter Ciple
Joel Osteen and his wife are just motivational speakers. They do not know the Word of God. They do not even know who Jesus is!
Peter Ciple
https://www.facebook.com/334435539991308/photos/a.334437783324417.58385.334435539991308/704661812968677/?type=3&theater
Peter Ciple
VIDEO LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwLsHmrx_xo
Grover Katzmarek Sr
I getting pretty well convinced that the Bible is foreign to them.
How in the world could read the Book of John and even think a thought like that
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John Wesley Osborn
Woops
Varnel Watson
youve had a few too?
John Wesley Osborn
Lol what
Varnel Watson
John Wesley Osborn woops I guess
John Wesley Osborn
Haha just saying that’s incorrect there Victoria
Varnel Watson
oh yeah that one that says sinners who pray go straight to hell or something
Varnel Watson
why is this joker in here?
Taylor Bruney
Wrong. He says that one is not saved by “repeating a prayer.” One is saved when he/she repents and believes the Gospel.
Jimmy Pearson
You talking about Justin Peters? Because what she said was heresy. Or are you talking bout me?
Varnel Watson
Taylor Bruney naaah Here is what he says Joe Absher Neil Steven Lawrence what is a reformed guy doing in this group anyways http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/paul-washer-sinners-prayer-is-sending-people-to-hell/
Varnel Watson
BTW Taylor Bruney I believe RichardAnna Boyce will disagree with your statement of once saved when he/she repents and believes
Taylor Bruney
If that is the case, then how is one saved?
Varnel Watson
Taylor Bruney you have to ask RichardAnna Boyce BUT why do you bring Washer as irrelevant in this discussion ?
Taylor Bruney
The OP (what Victoria Osteen said) was blasphemous. I was pointing that out.
Washer was saying that people so often believe themselves to be saved simply because they repeated a prayer. And that is true. People have believed that. The “sinner’s prayer” is merely a TOOL. There is no saving power in it. It’s not a bad thing, as long as one recognizes that just because they repeated it does not automatically makes them saved. Washer himself would affirm that.
Varnel Watson
Taylor Bruney washer is dead wrong on that one
Taylor Bruney
How so? And please cite Scripture.
Varnel Watson
Taylor Bruney are you even Pentecostal minister – no one can pray without faith Are you a preacher? Pls tell HOW do you FORCE one to pray without them believing Washer sings theological nonsense The same way as he claims holiness without entire sanctification Joe Absher It is a clever way to push once saved always saved Next pls!
Joe Absher
I just don’t understand why people fight repentance in soteriology . repentance is a gift . I got saved praying the sinners prayer . a army buddy walked me down the Romans road. Made perfect sense to me . I knew I was a sinner . Jesus saved me . I got a miracle . my life has had its ups and downs sure . but Jesus never let go of me . he always hears the cry of the humble . ALWAYS gotta be the best promise in the Bible .
Varnel Watson
RichardAnna Boyce will tell ya in just a minute
Varnel Watson
Jimmy Pearson I have not seen the video you posted Is he speaking of her leak or reformed too?
Jimmy Pearson
No he’s saying that’s heresy
Jimmy Pearson
theres two of us reformed guys in here actually. Both continuationist. I grew up and was ordained in the Pentecostal Church.
Joe Absher
It used to bother me when you inserted a previous thread but I think I understand better know ?
To the point it is important to read through the existing material on this important subject . grace
Neil Steven Lawrence
Troy Day “an escalator ride with latte in hand“ what a funny picture of how post modern Christianity behaves.
The sinners prayer is something I have done thousands of times leading people to Jesus in evangelism. But the sinners prayer does not save them, it only establishes a breakpoint and going from lack of commitment to commitment in Jesus.
I agree that The method by which it is used has distorted peoples view of commitment in the Christian walk.
Sadly, many people give more effort in “ordering a latte” than in following Jesus.
Jevan Little
That’s not Oneness.
Varnel Watson
ha ha and WHO claimed it to be Jesus only?
Jevan Little
Troy Day I said Oneness, not Jesus only. Read your article
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little first line says it is not my article 🙂 It is not an article – its a discussion and has little to do with oneness twiceness or anything further #TriOnly 🙂
Jevan Little
Troy Day the discussion you posted to start this discussion says it. Better now?
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little you mean Osteen?
Jevan Little
Troy Day
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little OK someone made a comment 5yrs ago? Good to know Did you even see the video?
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little there’s a deep theological explanation in these here words. One follower asked that Osteen delete the post, advising that it would be “weird” to leave it online. The status now no longer appears on Joel Osteen Ministries’ Facebook page and it is NOT accessible in the cached version either https://www.facebook.com/640123439376008/posts/931411393580543
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little you are correct that it could be seen as Jesus-onlysness
Jevan Little
Troy Day it can’t be seen as Oneness, please stop saying Jesus only
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little whats seems to be the difference
Jevan Little
Troy Day jesus only was meant as a pejorative and implies we don’t believe there is a Father or Holy Spirit
Jimmy Pearson
Oneness, Jesus only. Heresy by any other name will still be just as fowl.
Varnel Watson
Jimmy Pearson I am not oneness and know only little about it but IMO you would know Jesus-only if He hit you on the nose Jevan Little see how I dont use it as a pejorative
Jimmy Pearson
Comment wasn’t actually directed at you.
Varnel Watson
Jimmy Pearson it wasnt very theological either as Jevan Little already put it well in his answer to you
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little now that you watched the video does she sound as oneness to you or something else Neil Steven Lawrence