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Kathy Richardson | PentecostalTheology.comTHE RAPTURE DOCTRINE EXPOSED!
Where is the Rapture mentioned in the Bible? The word “rapture” does not exist in the Bible. That is, it does not exist in the original manuscripts. So how do people come to the conclusion of, or get this word rapture? This word comes from the Latin version of the Bible known as the Vulgate. This translation into Latin was made possible by a man the Catholics deemed “St. Jerome” who moved to Israel to learn the language and translate the manuscripts into Latin. The word “caught up” (see I Thessalonians 4:17) – in Latin is ‘Raptus’ and it means: ‘Seize’. And from this ‘Raptus’ we get the modern word “rapture”. In the original Greek manuscripts, this word is ‘Harpazo’ (Harpad’zo) And it means to seize, catch (away, up) – pluck, pull, take by force. It’s a rapid or turbulent change. There is little question or debate between pre and post tribulationists about what this word ‘caught up’ means. The debate is when this “catching up” will take place. No, of course we do not know the exact day or time, but we are expected to know the seasons. I’ll touch on this a bit later on in this study. Do know this, that there are two offices of power, that will be doing some ‘catching’ in the end times.
MATTHEW 13:16-17 – But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. {STUDY NOTES} There are many who can not see or understand the parables that Jesus would often teach in. It is not given that everyone should know. Many people who have eyes to see and ears to hear can understand these parables. What a blessing it is to those who can.
MATTHEW 13:18-19 – Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. {STUDY NOTES} It seems when some people do hear the word of God being taught, then comes along ‘that wicked one’ and ‘catcheth away’ the seed of the truth. That seed we plant in these end times. Satan wants that seed, so that he can plant his own. And that seed is the deception, lies and confusion. Like the lie of a great escape. Care to take a guess what this word ‘catcheth ‘ is in the Greek? You got it! “Harpazo”- and it’s to seize, catch away, up- pluck, pull, take by force. A ‘rapture’ if you will…I want to start with a good foundation, whereby we may get a better picture and understanding of things to come. Let’s start our study in I Corinthians 15:33-53
I CORINTHIANS 15:33-35 – Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? {STUDY NOTES} Don’t be deceived. Get some common sense about you. And shame on those of you who are not familiar with God’s word. The subject here is: ‘How are the dead raised up’ and with what body will they be raised up in. Flesh or Spirit? Let’s skip to verse 39.
I CORINTHIANS 15:39-41 – All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. {STUDY NOTES} There are different kinds of flesh bodies. Flesh of men, animals, birds. But there is also a second body that is in us. And there is a big difference between the flesh terrestrial body we inhabit and the celestial heavenly body that we all will change into at death or the 7th trump. (Which ever comes first)
I CORINTHIANS 15:42-44 – So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. {STUDY NOTES} When we die, and these bodies are put into the ground, it’s not the end of us. We continue on. Paul would in a later verse compare the cycle of life unto a kernel of corn. When placed in the ground, it rots and dies. But then a new life, a new form or new body springs forth. We put on our ‘incorruption’ or our spiritual bodies. The very moment of death, instantly we are with the Father. (see Ecclesiastes 12:7) Meaning what? Meaning we are not laying around in a grave. We are instantly with God. And while we are in these flesh bodies, we groan and sigh for this flesh is corruptible. (see I Corinthians 5:1-10) Meaning what? It’s fragile, it gets sick, it breaks, burns and hurts. It also sins. But when we die, we get rid of it. And thank God for it. There are many Christians who think at the time of this raptus, that they will simply vanish into thin air. But where do they think they vanish to? Do they think they vanish and reappear in heaven? Where does their flesh go? It sure isn’t the kingdom of God.
I CORINTHIANS 15:50-53 – Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. {STUDY NOTES} What trump did he say? Was it the first? No, it is the ‘last’ trumpet. Meaning the seventh. Not all of us will die before the 7th trump sounds. There will be people still alive when Christ comes back for us. And when He does come back, those that are alive will be changed. In the twinkling of an eye. Again, when will this happen? At the Last Trumpet. The 7th Trump. You may read of the events that lead up to this trumpet in (see Revelation 11:15) In the Greek manuscripts, the word “Last” is: (Es’khatos) – which means the very last one. The farthest one out there. The lowest uttermost furthest trump. Now there are some who might say; “Well, how could Paul refer to this trumpet, that was not yet revealed? John wrote the book of Revelation, 40 years after Paul wrote I Corinthians 15:51-52 concerning the last trumpet.” So naturally, Paul could not know about the book of Revelation or the seven trumps right? Well, Let’s take a look in the Old Testament, and see that which is charged or sounded, on the Lord’s Day. Again, what is the Lord’s Day? And what will be happening at that time? It’s when God comes back to us. The 7th, last “Es’khatos” and final trumpet that is charged. Amos 5:18-20 makes it very clear what it will be like on the Lord’s Day. Let’s take a look at a few Old Testament prophets. Also notice what is being sounded, uttered, roared and shouted, prior to God’s return to this earth. And remember, this is the old Testament.
ZEPHANIAH 1:12-16 – And it shall come to pass at that time, that I will search Jerusalem with candles, and punish the men that are settled on their lees: that say in their heart, The LORD will not do good, neither will he do evil. Therefore their goods shall become a booty, and their houses a desolation: they shall also build houses, but not inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, but not drink the wine thereof. The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers. {STUDY NOTES} Old Testament prophets majored on the themes of God’s coming judgment and future blessing. They often blended the near future with events that were so far distant they have yet to happen. Zephaniah was one of these prophets. Zephaniah prophesied during King Josiah’s reign over Judah, around 625-635 BC. His messages focused on God’s judgments on Judah, fulfilled when Babylon conquered the nation and carried most of the people into exile. He also spoke of the ‘Coming day of the Lord,’ which is also a still-future time when God will judge the heathen nations and usher in the messianic kingdom of peace and blessing. The minor prophets are filled with scripture pertaining to the ‘Lord’s Day’ and how it will be ushered in. Like Zephaniah, Zechariah told of his visions. Some Angels on horses, chariots and golden lamp stands. Zechariah said that the Lord is coming to earth from heaven. The Lord’s Day. Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become God’s people. On that day he will destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem. And they will look on Me, the One they have pierced, and they will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child, (see Zechariah 12:9-10)
JOEL 2:1-2 – Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
JOEL 3:12-17 – Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. {STUDY NOTES} For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God. A Mighty Roar, with authority, as he will utter his voice from Jerusalem. This word utter in the Hebrew is ‘Nathan’ (naw-than). And it has many applications. To which are: “To give with great application, apply, appoint, ascribe, assign, avenge, be healed, bring forth, cast, cause, charge”. And it is God that will perform all of these things. Don’t take my word for it, look it up for yourself. Does Joel 3:12-17 should also sound familiar? (Isaiah 63:1-6) as well as (Revelation 14:14-20 ) should come to mind.
REVELATION 14:14-19 – And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. {STUDY NOTES} Let’s get back to this ‘last trumpet’ that Paul would speak of in (I Corinthians 15:52). Let’s look at the word’s of Jesus Christ, concerning the end times and the day of his return to us.
MATTHEW 24:29-31 – Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. {STUDY NOTES} So where am I going with all of this? Paul did know of a final trumpet or charge that would alert those who have ears to hear and eyes to see in these end times. Anyone who tells you different is either lying to you, or just not familiar with God’s word. The question is, do you have eyes to see and ears to hear? Or are you content on listening to traditions of men? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Paul had many and plenty of scripture to support his statement concerning the ‘last trump’ in (I Corinthians 15:52) How much more support could one have, than Christ Himself?
Let’s go to I Thessalonians 4:13-17
NOTE: It is too bad, that more people do not understand the Greek. That when a subject and object is fixed, it holds the same theme or values until there is a new subject change. In other words, Once you begin reading something and a subject is brought up, that subject carries in the story, until a new subject is presented. Example: David has a dog named Bucky. Andrea likes ice-cream ‘run Bucky run’. It doesn’t make sense does it? But people change subject matter and change objects by inserting things that are just not there, in the case of (II Thessalonians 2:7) when the topic is something totally different. We are taught how to read in school. So don’t let someone change those rules for you. Stick to the subject.
I THESSALONIANS 4:13 – But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. {STUDY NOTES} The subject here is: ‘Where are the dead’. Paul is saying, I don’t want you to be stupid concerning those who are dead. And don’t be sad about it.
I THESSALONIANS 4:14 – For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. {STUDY NOTES} Because if we are truly Christian and we believe that Jesus rose, so should we believe that our loved ones have risen and so will we. To be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord. Our loved ones are not laying in a grave somewhere waiting to have their flesh body raised up when God returns. For the Dust will return to the earth as it was and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. (see Ecclesiastes 12:7)
I THESSALONIANS 4:15 – For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. {STUDY NOTES} The word ‘prevent’ means ‘precede’. Why can’t we precede those who are dead? Because they are already gone. They are already with the Father. Some Christians even go as far in saying that this verse, along with verse 16, talk about a reunion of flesh and spirit. They say that on the last day when God comes, he will open up graves and people will come back to their bodies. Now wait a minute! Didn’t Paul just get done saying in verse 14 that if we believe Christ rose from the dead, that so are our loved ones? And so shall we when we die? While we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord. (see II Corinthians 5:6-8) Let’s continue…A new subject change just happened. Did you catch it? It’s up above in verse 15. It’s the ‘Coming of the Lord’ and those who are alive and remain.
I THESSALONIANS 4:16 – For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: {STUDY NOTES} God is going to descend from heaven with a shout. Who is doing the shouting here? It’s the archangel Michael. Now it’s not necessarily written that this is Michael the archangel, but it is written that Michael will be doing the casting out of Satan to earth. (Revelation 12:7-9) So I think it’s safe to assume that this archangel will be Michael. At any case, this is not a big deal who the archangel is. What about this trump of God. What is this Trump? This is the 7th trump. The last trump that Paul would speak of in (I Corinthians 15:52) Now again, why will the dead in Christ rise first? That’s right, they are already with God . We can’t ‘prevent’ them. Which is to say ‘precede’ them.
I THESSALONIANS 4:17 – Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. {STUDY NOTES} And there we have the base foundation of the pre-rapture. Those who believe in the pre-rapture, usually site the above verses as their support. Now let me make this perfectly clear. I’m not doubting a ‘rapture’ or ‘catching up’ will take place. It’s the timing of such an event. Thus; our firm stance of a post-tribulation view. Pre-tribbers (as I call them), usually say: “Well, It says right there that those who have not died will be ‘raptured’ in the clouds to meet God in the sky”. Is that what it really says? Are these verses being understood and read. Paul was educated in the Hebrew language. He studied under the finest scholars of that time. He also spoke colloquial Greek, which is to say he spoke “street Greek” or slang. You might hear to this time, “Figures of speech” – idioms or catch phrases. For example, have you ever heard of someone saying that there were so many faces in the crowd, that it looked like a sea of faces? We know when using this figure of speech, it has nothing to do with the ocean. Paul used these figures of speech because that was the language of the people he preached to. How about this one “There were so many locusts, that they swarmed in clouds?” When used in this context, you get a better understanding of what the person is trying to get across. And may I add, that this term or phrase is still being used to this day. Let’s take a look at (Hebrews 12:1) Paul again writing:
HEBREWS 12:1 – Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, {STUDY NOTES} So, is the above verse referring to white puffy clouds? Or a large mass of Christians running a foot race? It doesn’t take much for one to know it has nothing to do with white puffy clouds floating around in our atmosphere. So knowing that Paul used this word cloud to express his description of a large group or mass of people, don’t you think it is possible that Paul used the same word to describe a mass gathering of people on the Lord’s Day? The word “cloud” here and other places in the Greek and Hebrew will mean exactly what it says. A white puffy cloud drifting in the sky. You can do a concordance search on this word all day long and not find a darn thing different. Well some might say; ” Well, air is the sky, because the word cloud is used. There’s just one problem with that. Now lets look at this word “air”. This word in the Greek is “Ah-ayr” – This word simply means breath, or to ‘blow air’. It is that same breath, or that “Neshamah” (nesh-aw-mah) that God breathed through the nostrils of man, that gave them a living spirit. A soul. It’s the breath of life. It’s the spirit body that we all have in us. That spirit body we change back into the moment we die. Or at the sound of the last trumpet for those of us that are still around at the Second coming. (see II Corinthians 5:1-10) If you would, please allow me to read this in the way that I feel Paul was trying to express: “Then we which are alive and remain shall be “changed in a twinkling of an eye” together with them in the “masses of fellow Christians”, to meet the Lord in the spirit body, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” – Again, there is no doubt in my mind that we will be “raptured or caught up or changed” and it shall happen in a twinkling of an eye as I Corinthians 15:52 clearly states. However, when will it occur? It’s the 7th trumpet. Antichrist comes at the 6th. Some Christians may say; “Well, no one knows when, as Christ will come as a thief in the night”. This is very true. However, there is a little more that should be expected of us as sober children of the light.
I THESSALONIANS 5:1-2 – But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so commeth as a thief in the night. {STUDY NOTES} We all know that Christ will come to us as a thief in the night. Which is to say, many will be surprised or off guard when He returns. Ahh, but wait a minute…
I THESSALONIANS 5:3 – For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. {STUDY NOTES} It looks as though Paul is giving us some markers or indicators on what to look for before Christ returns. Beloved, they are saying “Peace and Safety” now. Haven’t you been watching the news lately? We hear talk of Peace and Safety in Ireland, we see it and hear it being talked about in Israel as Palestine has been given more land for peace. We are hearing and seeing it in the rebuilding process in Kosovo and Iraq. Seeing once communistic countries fall and form democracies is a part of God’s plan. For if a world is united militarily, economically and politically, who will be able to make war with us? (Revelation 13) If you “watch” you can see it. These are the “times and seasons” that Paul advised us about in the first verse of this Chapter. Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear?
I THESSALONIANS 5:4-5 – But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. {STUDY NOTES} We are expected to know these markers, times and seasons before that coming of the Lord. At least be able to see them. It doesn’t say we are to know the exact time or day, nor are we supposed to know that exact minute. But It is very clear that we are to be ready and know the season in which Yeshua comes back to us. So that we are NOT overtaken as by a thief in the night. It is Paul’s warning to be on watch, so that we are not in darkness.
I THESSALONIANS 5:6-8 – Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that sleep, sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. {STUDY NOTES} We are to watch and be ready. Ready for what? For a great escape? For the ‘pre-rapture? A quick medivac when times get rough? No, Paul is telling us to equip ourselves using the analogy of placing armor on our bodies. You only put armor on when you are taking a stand and getting ready for a battle, spiritually speaking. It’s a defensive measure. You don’t put armor on if you are going to fly away or run away when times get rough. (Ephesians 6:10-17) speaks of the same preparation.
EPHESIANS 6:10-17 – Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: {STUDY NOTES} What sort of fiery darts? Let’s take the example God gives us concerning a tribulation when times get hot. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego could have cared less about some golden image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up. These Hebrew young men would not bow a knee to this image or system.
DANIEL 3:11-12 – And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace. There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. {STUDY NOTES} These poor children were faced with a very real persecution and tribulation, would you not agree? A tribulation that will one day befall all who are on earth, excluding those who have passed on by natural or accidental means. God uses type’s and examples all throughout the scriptures. Let this be a type that is yet to come unto those who are delivered up to the synagogues, when the ‘Desolate’ is sitting in Zion claiming to be the Messiah. (see Mark 13:9) Even when faced with certain death, these brave souls would not bow a knee and worship this system or image that was set up. They kept their faith when it was seriously shaken in time of certain death. But they refused not to worship.
DANIEL 3:17-18 – If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up. {STUDY NOTES} These poor boys are now about to get tossed in the fiery furnace, because they would not bow to this image. But they kept to their faith and were bound. And wearing their coats, and hosen and hats and other garments. What other garments? The garments that we all need to have on and in place in these times. These garments I speak of is what we just read above in (Ephesians 6:10-17). The Armour of God, to withstand against those fiery darts, Satan. likes to cast our way.
DANIEL 3:21 – Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. {STUDY NOTES} See any ‘pre-rapture’? These boys sprouting wings? No, these brave young men went through it. Fiery darts and all. But they kept their faith and did not bow a knee to this system.
DANIEL 3:24-25 – Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counselors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. {STUDY NOTES} God is with us. He will see us through. He will be right there walking in the midst, when faced with our own tribulation. Be it in everyday life, or the day of our being delivered up.
Let’s get back to where we left off: I Thessalonians 5:9-10
I THESSALONIANS 5:9-10 – For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. {STUDY NOTES} Now, Why did Paul feel the need to write the 2nd book of Thessalonians? Because he knew there was some confusion as to what was written about the second coming of Jesus. He wrote that 2nd book to let the church know that Christ’s return would not happen until antichrist’s reign was on earth. Let us now go to 2nd Thessalonians.
II THESSALONIANS 2:1 – Now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto Him, {STUDY NOTES} Paul is saying; I’m here again to get a few things straight with you new Christians, concerning the second coming of Christ and our gathering together to him.
I THESSALONIANS 2:2-3 – That ye be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled neither by spirit nor by word nor by any letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. {STUDY NOTES} Don’t be fooled or confused, and don’t let I Thessalonians confuse you. What day is Paul talking about? The Lord’s day. Paul is saying that the gathering back to Him shall not happen, until there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition. Who is the man of sin? Who is this son of perdition? It’s Satan. What does perdition mean? It means sentenced to die or death. There has only been one entity who has been sentenced to die and that is Satan. Some scholars have said this is Judas. But that won’t fit. You see, Judas was not sentenced to death. He repented and later died from his wounds. A different story for a later time. Now what is this falling away? The word in the Greek manuscript is: ‘Apostasia’. Apostasy is: the defection from truth. A turning away, forsake, give up truth and go after something else. What is it that people will be giving up or turning away from? The word of God. The truth of His word. Turning to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, that do nothing but lie and confuse.
I TIMOTHY 4:1-2 – Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; {STUDY NOTES} As it is written, there would come a famine in the end times, that would spread across the world. I believe this famine is very real and happening everyday and all the time. What sort of famine?
AMOS 8:9-11 – And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: {STUDY NOTES} Because of this famine for the lack of hearing God’s word and truth, many will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits. (Satan love’s catching that seed of truth, and sowing his own) Let’s get back to II Thessalonians.
II THESSALONIANS 2:4 – Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. {STUDY NOTES} So what is Paul saying? He’s saying don’t let my first letter fool you. Christ is not coming back until Satan is revealed sitting in the temple of God, claiming to be God.
I THESSALONIANS 2:5-7 – Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. {STUDY NOTES} The word “Letteth” is a transitive verb. It means you must transfer back to the subject. What is the subject in this chapter? It’s the man of sin being revealed, the son of perdition. Revealing himself in the Temple of God, claiming to be God and showing that he is God in verses 3 and 4. So what must we do? We need to carry those values from verses 3 and 4, to the following verses, until a new subject comes up. This is basic Greek. It’s basic English for that matter. What does this word ‘Letteth’ mean? In the Greek, this word is ‘Katecho’ and it means:- to hold down, keep, possess, retain or detain, stay, withhold. How the hell can this be a rapture of a church? Let’s look at this scripture again.
I THESSALONIANS 2:7 – For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: {STUDY NOTES} For the mystery of the ‘lawless’ or wicked, already work. Meaning what? Stick to the subject! The man of sin / perdition is revealed as the false Christ. He’s sitting in the temple, claiming to be God. So what is he doing? He’s Lying! He’s working his wickedness, his lies. It’s working and going on even to this day. The word ‘iniquity’ in the Greek is: ‘Anomia’ (an-om-ee’-ah ) And it means: – Violation of law, wickedness, transgress. only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. Who is he? And who is he ‘holding or retaining’? Remember, the word ‘letteth’ means to hold down, be it by force. And don’t forget the subject! “He who now letteth”, who is this? Who holds Satan now? (Revelations 12:7-9)
REVELATION 12:7-9 – And there was war in heaven: Mi’-cha-el and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. {STUDY NOTES} Michael prevailed against Satan and his angels, at the rebellion. So where is Satan now? Some may cringe when I say this, but he’s in Heaven. Judged and already sentenced die. But Michael will ‘letteth / hold’ – on to him, (Satan) – and boot him to earth. Letting Satan to reign until it’s time for him to be taken out of the way. Satan’s evil spirit is live and well on this earth today. But he is no longer here ‘bodily’. Which is to say, not here personally. But he will be coming. Michael will be kicking him to this earth, along with his buddies (The fallen angels) or nephillim. What a rejoicing in heaven there will be when this happens. Why? Satan is no longer being held or detained in Heaven. But ‘Woe’ to you people on earth. Because the devil’s coming with great wrath. (see Revelation 12:12) He’s coming in peaceably, prosperously. Remember, he’s going to be sitting on the Temple of God in Zion. Meaning what? He’s coming back as the Christ. Only he’s the fake. Many will be fooled and believe it is the true Jesus, here to ‘rapture’ them away no doubt. Will you be deceived? Many people think Satan will be coming back with a pitch fork in one hand, and a branding iron with the numbers 666, in the other hand. Don’t be deceived. He’s trying to come back as Jesus. Wolf in sheep’s clothing so-to-speak. Let’s sum up this verse again. For the mystery of the lawless one already works. It’s going on today. Only Michael the archangel who prevailed against Satan (Satan being the subject in this chapter) – will hold on to him, then kicking him loose. Letting him (Satan) continue his role as false messiah on earth, until it’s time for him to be taken out of the way.
II THESSALONIANS 2:8-11 – And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. {STUDY NOTES} When this ‘false Messiah’ comes, he will look just like the lamb. But will have the voice of a dragon. God has sent strong delusion. Like believing this lie of a “any moment” rapture that is supposed to take place at any minute. At any given second, we are to be plucked up and fly away into the sky. For you see, those who believe this are delusional. Here’s a couple of questions to ponder. If Christ is to return before the end-time Antichrist appears, why does the “first resurrection” (i.e., raising of the righteous dead at Christ’s coming) include those martyred for refusing the reign and mark of the Antichrist.
REVELATION 20:4-5 – And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. {STUDY NOTES} This is the first resurrection. If the apostles and early believers were to anticipate an imminent Rapture to heaven (in effect terminating the Church age at its inception), how might it be explained that just prior to his departure Christ had prayed that they NOT be taken out the world.
JOHN 17:15-17 – I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. {STUDY NOTES} If the Jerusalem Temple is to be rebuilt before Christ’s return, how may a Rapture of the Church occur at any moment, seeing the Temple does not yet exist? This rapture pre-flight is nothing more than a security blanket for the young baby Christians. They are so afraid of giving up the flesh or going through some rough times, that they are willing to sell out to traditions of man and doctrines of lies, to fly and save their souls. Now (Mark 13) gives the Chronology of what is to come exceptionally well. I’m not going to do the homework for you. Check it out on your own. But I will tell you this. THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of in Mark 13 and Matthew 24, is not a condition as of in “desolation”. It is an entity. Dr. James Moffatt, translates this scripture from desolation to the DESOLATOR. Meaning what? This is an entity. Not a condition. This is that which Daniel spoke of in (Daniel 9:27), which is also described in II Thessalonians. Which is given credence by Christ in Matthew 24:15, Mark 13:14. Just keep in mind who is discussed and arrives when. This “Desolator” arrives on the scene in Mark 13: 14. Look who comes after in verse 26 . It’s Jesus. Well now how could that be? If we were to be raptured before the “Desolation / Desolator arrives, verse 26 would have been before verse 14. So put away the security baby blankie and stand tall as a child of God! nowhere at any time does it say the church or people will sprout little wings and fly away. It’s just not there. Put on the Gospel armor and stand tall. We have work to do in this field, doing God’s work. For a true harvest is in the summer or early Spring. Not winter. I pray your flight be not in winter. How many times have you heard some preachers say; that they can’t wait to be taken into the clouds in the sky? They dance and sing songs about flying into the sky and into the clouds. They give praise to a quick and great escape. Shame on them that teach this! And shame on those who listen to this and believe it! You want to know how God feels about this ‘flying’ to save their souls?
EZEKIEL 13:19 – And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies? {STUDY NOTES} Know any well known Ministries that seem to exploit God? In other words, we are talking beggars in priests clothing. Saying things; “Well dear brother and sisters, we can’t continue with our work with out your money! ‘Gimme, gimme, gimme!’ That’s all they would seem to do. Instead of getting into God’s Word chapter by chapter and verse by verse, and sowing that seed. They seem content on begging for your money then actually teaching the Word of God. And when they finally do get around to teaching the Word, they teach one or two verses and the rest of the time they talk about “Uncle Larry from Palm Beach”. Just be careful dear friends.
EZEKIEL 13:20 – Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly. {STUDY NOTES} Ever have some come up to you? I mean, they just pounce on you. “Are you saved? Are you saved?” And then they start off with some new age junk that almost eliminates God’s saving grace. They put covers over God’s out reached hands, and tell you; “All you have to do is just believe” and we will be raptured out of here like a dove. God is against this fly-away doctrine. How simple is that to see? But still, you have some so-called “educated scholars” who write these books and survival guides on what to do in the event that a pre rapture has occurred. And some would like to capitalize on weak Christians who do follow this drivel. ‘money, money money!’. I’m not going to name names or point fingers. Let’s just stick to God’s Word and let God sort things out. Become a strong Christian and study God’s Word. You need to obtain the information on your own. Don’t allow “man” tell you “This is how it is or that’s the way it is”. Only you have to answer to God. Man can not intervene for you. Follow the subject and object. Don’t allow people to change or insert things that just aren’t there. Check it out on your own.
In HIS Service.
Damon D. Turley
Just because the word rapture is not in the Bible. Does that mean that there’s not going to be a bema judgement seat just for Christians? Or does that mean that you cannot take your crown in the throne room and present them before the father and sing a new song saying that you are worthy oh Lord?
Levend Geloof
THE WORD TRINITY DOESN’T OCCUR IN THE BIBLE ALSO.
STILL ALL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN THIS FAKE MANMADE DOCTRINE.
Damon D. Turley
God gave us a Bible. And in that Bible in John 1: 1 it says that God is 3 she’s the word he’s with the words and he is the word. I don’t see where you get man-made Doctrine. There’s plenty of other examples in the Bible that everything is in threes. Try reading 1st John. God gave us the ability to read and comprehend what we’re reading. It’s not man-made.
Damon D. Turley
Oh by the way if you were not three-in-one then you would not be on this planet. Your body soul and Spirit.
Jo Kelly
Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way,…. Not “created me”, as the Targum and the Septuagint version; which version Arius following gave birth to his pernicious doctrine; who from hence concluded Christ is a creature, and was the first creature that God made, not of the same but of a like nature with himself, in some moment or period of eternity; and by whom he made all others: the Word, or Wisdom of God is never said to be created; and if as such he was created, God must have been without his Wisdom before he was created; besides, Christ, as the Word and Wisdom of God, is the Creator of all things, and not created, John 1:1; but this possession is not in right of creation, as the word is sometimes used, Genesis 4:1; it might be more truly rendered, “the Lord begat me”, as the word is translated by the Septuagint in Zechariah 13:5; it denotes the Lord’s having, possessing, and enjoying his word and wisdom as his own proper Son; which possession of him is expressed by his being with him and in him, and in his bosom, and as one brought forth and brought up by him; as he was “in the beginning of his way” of creation, when he went forth in his wisdom and power, and created all things; then he did possess his Son, and made use of him, for by him he made the worlds: and “in the beginning of his way” of grace, which was before his way of creation; he began with him when he first went out in acts of grace towards his people; his first thoughts, purposes, and decrees concerning their happiness, were in him; the choice of their persons was made in him; God was in him contriving the scheme of their peace, reconciliation, and salvation; the covenant of grace was made with him, and all fulness of grace was treasured up in him: the words may be rendered, “the Lord possessed me, the beginning of his way” (h); that is, who am the beginning, as he is; the beginning of the creation of God, the first cause, the efficient of it, both old and new; see Colossians 1:18. So Aben Ezra, who compares with this Job 40:19. This shows the real and actual existence of Christ from eternity, his relation to Jehovah his Father, his nearness to him, equality with him, and distinction from him: it is added, for further illustration and confirmation’s sake,
before his works of old; the creation of the heavens and the earth; a detail of which there is in the following verses.
(h) “possidet me principium viae suae”, Pagninus, Michaelis, Schultens; “habuit me principium viae suae”, Cocceius.
Kelly McArthur
The bride is raptured by the bridegroom and she calls out to the 10, awaken, awaken the bridegroom cometh, and the 10 awaken.
Kelly McArthur
Bride and bridegroom enter the kingdom within and wait for the friends of the bridegroom to arrive and then the gates are shut.
Jo Kelly
In Jewish weddings, it was the call of the bridegroom along the posession toward the bride’s house to get her that the bridesmaids and bride heard, repeated from house to house as they cried out, “the bridegroom cometh.”
Jo Kelly
We are the bride of Christ, and are like the Jewish brides, in the Bible, as Jesus has paid the price for us, bought us, like the bridegroom paid in the Bible when entering into a ketubah marriage contract, for his bride. it is a beautiful picture described of our bridegroom, and how we are to be.
JEWISH MARRIAGES—Contract–Consumation–Celebration
Sometimes brides were picked out when the party to be married were children, and other times a year or so before the ketubah contract, and at times the bride never met her husband, until he came to take her to his Father’s house.
In the Jewish marriage contract, a man would go to the Bride’s fathers and pay the price for his daughter in marriage. At that time, a contract or covenant for marriage was entered into. But, there would be no wedding date set. The groom had to go back to his Father’s house and prepare a place and also living quarters for his new bride. He could not even see his bride for a year. The time for the wedding could be after the year, or even longer, no one knew but the Father when the groom would call for his bride. Only the father of the bridegroom knew when he would say to his son, “Son, go get your bride.” Then, he would gather the males of the wedding party and start the walk to the bride’s house to get her, and to carry her back to the Father’s house for the wedding, for the marriage supper and the guests celebration, afterward, for seven days while the couple was in the prepared wedding chamber. There would be a special bridal chamber for the bride and the groom.
The bride had to always be ready, at all times, to go out by night, as she and the brides maids, like the wise virgins, had to keep their lamps all trimmed and shinning, for,they knew not when the call would come. The call usually came at night time. In the procession and march to the bride’s house, they had some that would go ahead, shouting or crying publically, “the bridegroom cometh” and the people in the houses would join in repeating it, until the message was heard further down the path toward where the bride,awaited. Before the bridegroom ever got there, the cry of announcement could be heard by the “public criers” announcing that the groom would soon be there, as he was on the way. The bridesmaids had to be ready at all times also, and not be like those foolish virgins, who didn’t have oil in their lamps, but be ready and watching for him.
We must remember the Bible says that unto those “looking for him” will he appear a second time, unto salvation. It is those who will “love” his appearing that he is coming for, just like the bride in Jewish weddings longed for the midnight cry, for the groom to come for her and carry her back to the father’s house, for the wedding ceremony.
Does this remind you of what Jesus said in the Bible, as to his second coming for his Bride?
Her wedding garments must be ready,white, without spot or blemish, and as the brides back then didn’t know when the groom would appear, we don’t either, we just believe it and have to be faithful, ready at all times, and watching for his appearance.
When our bridegroom comes, it will be too late to wash our spiritual garments, they have to be clean at his coming.
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Damon D. Turley
The bride is already inside. When the bridegroom cometh he picks up the five virgins which is Israel. And 5 virgins of Israel is left outside. But the bride the church is already inside.
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
‘And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. ‘
Exodus 3:13-15
Jo Kelly
Damon D. Turley…We are not inside the wedding chamber yet,ma we have to be presented to the Father, first, literally when receive by him (to take). The virgins do not represent Israel, but any class of elect of God. The church is not literally in heaven yet, with their bridegroom, as they will be when translated and resurrected in the future.
Jo Kelly
Israel will be reconciled when they see The Lord they pierced and He defeats their enemies, which is when he no longer hides his face from them, in that specfic end time day.
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
Matthew 24 is talking to Israel the elect. They will go through the tribulation. Noah and family in the ark is the picture of Israel going through the tribulation.
Jo Kelly
Kathy Richardson…Antichrist is not the author of deception in those who follow him, GOD causes the deception,mas these are unsaved people! They never received truth or loved it, God’s elect (that He knows and foreknew from eternity past) who will receive salvation are NOT the elect of God BECAUSE of their works, nor were they selected by God (as spirits in heaven before birth,) another false conception taught by SC. God’s elect are simply those God foreknew would receive truth and love it, accept his sacrifice for their salvation, and serve him, by grace through faith. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Antichrist! God also knew ALL He would CAUSE to be deceived (by HIM) to be and follow Antichrist. 2 Thess. 2: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(ANTICHRIST)
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that PERISH ; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOY THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
11 And FOR THIS CAUSE God shall send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should BELIEVE a LIE :
12 That they all might BE DAAMNEDwho believed NOT the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Jo Kelly
“But he is a Jew, who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”…….Spiritual Israel of God…..
Damon D. Turley
I know in the Old Testament it says that God hardened Pharaoh’s heart. And I agree with that. Man has the authority in Earth and if a man makes up his mind to have a hard heart God and all his wisdom and understanding will allow that person to harden their hearts continually. It’s not God doing it. Man makes his own choice. And God stands behind it.
Jo Kelly
Damon D. Turley…Here is your statement…QUOTE>>A part of Israel will be raised with the bride. While the rest of Israel (waits) on the return of Messiah on the Mount of Olives. They will be judged “. My question for you is where does it say “the rest of the Jews wait on the return at the Mount of Olives?”
Damon D. Turley
Yes the Messiah will have his foot down on the Mount of Olives and split it. He will be on the Mount of Olives
Damon D. Turley
Isn’t the Mount of Olives in the Jewish land mass? I think it’s blocking the Dead Sea from being alive see right outside of Jerusalem.
Jo Kelly
Craig Erika Colburn…The earth will not be consumed by fire and renovated until AFTER the 1000 year reign on earth, the casting of Satan into the Lake of Fire, and the Great White Throne Judgment have all occurred. THEN, the New Jerusalem descends from above. Your error is that the day of the Lord is a period of time, not the one day on which he returns.
Jo Kelly
The 144,000 will rule on earth, as the New Jerusalem does not descend to the earth until after the events of Revelation. The 144,000 do not rule over other saints in heaven, but over those of the nations on the earth. EGW taught the end time prophecy wrong.
Craig Colburn
I would block u immediately!!! But I will kill you influence here as David did the Lion and the bear….
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
Rapture — believers meet Christ in the air
Second Coming — Christ returns to the Mount of Olives to meet the believers on earth
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
Rapture — Mount of Olives is unchanged
Second Coming — Mount of Olives is divided, forming a valley east of Jerusalem
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to snatch or take away. Elsewhere it is used to describe how the Spirit caught up Philip near Gaza and brought him to Caesarea (Acts 8:39) and to describe Paul’s experience of being caught up into the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2-4). Thus there can be no doubt that the word is used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 to indicate the actual removal of people from earth to heaven.
Jo Kelly
So true, as to the HARPAZO! The word, “RECEIVE” in Jn. 14: 1-3 promise of Jesus to his disciples, to receive them, that where he is, they may be also, means “TO TAKE ” in the ancent language. It is the same word used when Joseph took the young child and his mother and came into the land of Israel, in Matthew 2. It is a prolonged form of a primary verb, and root Greek word which is used as an alternate in certain tenses; TO TAKE (in very many applications, literally and figuratively (properly objective or active, to get hold of; whereas 1209 is rather subjective or passive, to have offered to one; while 138 is more violent, to seize or remove)):–accept, + be amazed, assay, attain, bring, X when I call, CATCH , come on (X unto), + forget, have, hold, obtain, RECEIVE (X after), TAKE (AWAY, UP),
Jo Kelly
Ninfa Pallad Cochran…You claim you are proving a thousand years in heaven of a Millennial, yet, you failed to give one pertinent Scripture as to such belief. All Scriptures you gave prove what we teach!
Jo Kelly
Ninfa Pallad Cochran….These are all truths proving 1000 years on earth tht you gave, not heaven! .
Damon D. Turley
The millennial reign will be right here on this planet.
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
and this is the new earth now—-‘For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. ‘
Isaiah 65:17
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
‘Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. ‘
2 Peter 3:13-14
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
‘And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. ‘
Revelation 21:1
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
all bible writers are in harmony with each other. they don’t contradict!
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
And God’s people—those who love and obey him, will enjoy eternity with him—- (not those who says we don’t need to keep the law anymore.)—–Revelation 21’And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.’
Revelation 21:2-27
Jo Kelly
Ninfa Pallad Cochran, the new heavens and earth is AFTER the final battle on earth, Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire, the 1000 years on earth are over, the earth is renovated, and only when all sin is removed and evil, will New Jerusalem ascend.
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
The millennial kingdom is the title given to the 1000-year reign of Jesus Christ on the earth.
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
read and understand the verses I gave you. you don’t need to follow the Jesuit teaching
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
The Bible tells us that when Christ returns to the earth He will establish Himself as king in Jerusalem, sitting on the throne of David (Luke 1:32–33). The unconditional covenants demand a literal, physical return of Christ to establish the kingdom. The Abrahamic Covenant promised Israel a land, a posterity and ruler, and a spiritual blessing (Genesis 12:1–3). The Palestinian Covenant promised Israel a restoration to the land and occupation of the land (Deuteronomy 30:1–10). The Davidic Covenant promised Israel a king from David’s line who would rule forever—giving the nation rest from all their enemies (2 Samuel 7:10–13).
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
no wonder why the bible said—–the harlots has many sons and daughters?
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
bye have a nice day!
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
At the second coming(which is not rapture, the rapture happens before the tribulation), these covenants will be fulfilled as Israel is re-gathered from the nations (Matthew 24:31), converted (Zechariah 12:10–14), and restored to the land under the rule of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Bible speaks of the conditions during the millennium as a perfect environment physically and spiritually. It will be a time of peace (Micah 4:2–4; Isaiah 32:17–18), joy (Isaiah 61:7, 10), and comfort (Isaiah 40:1–2). The Bible also tells us that only believers will enter the millennial kingdom. Because of this, it will be a time of obedience (Jeremiah 31:33), holiness (Isaiah 35:8), truth (Isaiah 65:16), and the knowledge of God (Isaiah 11:9, Habakkuk 2:14). Christ will rule as king (Isaiah 9:3–7; 11:1–10). Nobles and governors will also rule (Isaiah 32:1; Matthew 19:28), and Jerusalem will be the political center of the world (Zechariah 8:3).
Sheila Catherine Paula Gauthier
Revelation 20:2-7 gives the precise time period of the millennial kingdom. Even without these scriptures, there are countless others that point to a literal reign of the Messiah on the earth. The fulfillment of many of God’s covenants and promises rests on a literal, physical, future kingdom.
Jo Kelly
Ninfa Pallad Cochran…We presented these millennial Scriptures to you many times, and you simply give the same back again, proving our point. Thanks, as it proves you found nothing contrary to what we told you, Biblically.
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
Lord, please open their eyes so that they can see the light, amen
Ninfa Pallad Cochran
and Lord, please tell them that your 10 commandment law is still binding.
Jo Kelly
The lost will be many more than “just the number as the sands of the sea,” Ninfa Pallad Cochran ….That number is in reference to those who rebel at the end of the Millennial, with Satan, on earth, against the camp of the saints in Jerusalem. Remember, the TARES were all practicing LOST sinners taken away at the second advent when Christ came to earth, a thousand years before the last uprising by the wicked, who turn from truth even after living on earth with Christ for 1000 years.
Jo Kelly
We all can still sin after salvation, and are being progressively sanctified all during our Christian walk.
Jo Kelly
Ninfa Pallad Cochran…ALL Buble writers agree with the same truths I just told you! The desolation you were taught was in Isaiah’s prophecy of the time of captivity and attacks of both Babylon and ROme, leaving only, “a few men” in thebland there, with is the word for earth.
Jo Kelly
Ninfa Pallad Cochran…Read what happens when the Lord returns to earth at the end of the seven year tribulation. ZEPH.—–And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the EARTH : in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but JERUSALEM shall be safely inhabited.