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David M. Hinsen | PentecostalTheology.com
Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 4:49 PM]
Soul winning comes before carpet any day of the week
Charles Page [02/19/2015 4:50 PM]
who ever said it didn’t?
Charles Page [02/19/2015 4:52 PM]
God is a regenerating God and likes what ever carpet color we choose.
Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 4:52 PM]
Well, when money are spent on carpet and not soul winning, there’s not much need to say anything else. Thank you brother for sharing this great word with us http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/reading-on-ecclesiology/
Michael Postlethwait [02/19/2015 5:08 PM]
While your post certainly represents some critical things going on in some churches, may I kindly suggest that you have perhaps taken your personal experience in your own context and applied it to the whole, perhaps a little unfairly. No church is perfect because it is made up of imperfect human beings. Moreover, each church has its own issues that it struggles with most. In the years that I have spent in theology teaching as well as ministry, I have noticed that the specific issues that each church deals with tend to be geographically sensitive. The first three chapters of the book of Revelation seemed to confirm this observation as well.
David M. Hinsen [02/19/2015 5:11 PM]
Yes Michael Postlethwait, I was afraid that it would come across that way, although it wasn’t meant to. I did say that there are still some good churches out there, however, I could have done a better job of making that more clear. Thanks for your insight.
Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 5:17 PM]
and another question, does a Jezabel spirit indicate demonic activities in the church or is it “just the people”?
Michael Postlethwait [02/19/2015 5:17 PM]
Having been through my own issues with the Church as a physically disabled Pentecostal, I wonder if we sometimes allow the real pain of broken people’s dysfunction blind us from the good that is going on even in churches that still a long way to go? Could we at times be guilty of missing the forest for the trees?
Charles Page [02/19/2015 5:18 PM]
Michael, perhaps you have taken your personal experience in your own context and applied it to the whole.
Adrian Rogers spoke for the seminaries when he said “pickles have souls” meaning the denomination tells the presidents and professors what to teach and if the denomination says: “pickles have souls then pickles have souls”
You are paid to teach what you teach and you teach what you are paid to teach.
Charles Page [02/19/2015 5:19 PM]
“just the people” -the born again saints
Michael Postlethwait [02/19/2015 5:19 PM]
Charles not so much because I am not at a denominational seminary.
Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 5:20 PM]
well this author here claims behind “just the people” there are spirits http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/basham-can-a-christian-have-a-demon/
Charles Page [02/19/2015 5:20 PM]
little difference between a non-denomination and a denominational seminary
Charles Page [02/19/2015 5:22 PM]
I believe pigs are in the parlor!!!
Pentecostal Theology [02/19/2015 5:24 PM]
pigs and Jezabel sure sound like spirits in my Bible
Varnel Watson
Love it! Greg Robinson David Lewayne Porter
David Lewayne Porter
The church is funny,
One of my friends says, “you will not find another organism like it anywhere”.
One of my wife’s uncles says, “the church is weird. They get upset and mad and hold grudges forever. He says, “they say that they forgive and yet will stop talking.” He then adds, “I can go to the bar, we get mad, we go outside and fight it out. We pick each other up, dust each other off, and go inside to buy rounds of drinks.”
Sadly, he is actually kind of right.
Our church has two issues, 1) the temperature, 2) the drums are too loud. But we have not come to fights over it. A couple fusses but we got through them.
Now 3 years ago we did lose 15 people because we would not live like we did in 1962. After 2 years as pastor, after what I thought was building relationships, I started making changes slowly. Those that did not like them, handed in letters to be removed from the membership and left peaceably and quietly.
Varnel Watson
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Roger David
A quick study of the word church is very revealing. The word for church as translated in most translations is Ekklesia. This is mistranslated. The word church actually came from the word Kuriakos. This means “of the Lord:” and is only found twice in the bible.
The true word we should be using is Ekklesia. This is properly translated as the assembly of the called out ones.
You want to do a study on the church then you will be doing a study on the assembly of the called out ones. Not the seeker sensitive hirelings. Not the megabucks social clubs. Just the assembly of those that were called out of the darkness and now dwell in the light.
http://www.aggressivechristianity.net/articles/ecclesia.htm