POSITION ON NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATON

Asking your position on the New Apostolic Reformation and the neo-Pentecostal congregations including “3rd wave”?

Jon Sellers [07/04/2015 4:35 PM]
I like Wimber nnd the Vineyard Movement. I don’t like the pyramid structure of the NAR. Obviously, a mixed bag in terms of teachings and practices.

John Kissinger [07/05/2015 7:24 AM]
New Apostolic Reformation: An Introduction to the Movement

John Kissinger [07/05/2015 7:25 AM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RBr8NkmeMU

John Kissinger [07/05/2015 7:25 AM]
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html

John Kissinger [07/06/2015 6:24 AM]
John Ruffle did you ask just from curiosity or you’ve had some dealings with them recently?

John Ruffle [07/06/2015 6:59 AM]
Good question. There was an article on-line Charisma about it a week or so ago, and I have read a number of Peter Wagner’s books some years ago. Many years ago, I subscribed to the Morningstar Journal as well. But more and more, it does appear to be cultish, with the emergence of super-apostles and authroity structures. Having said that, the new evangelical/charismatic churches ARE the fastest growing in the world, and so I will not dismiss them out of hand. I think we can learn from each other; the one’s I cna;t learn from (other than learn to avoid) maybe are those who are so very rigid in doctrinal positions other than the true fundamentas of the faith. If I can find the article, I’ll try to post it here, but prob. won;t be today. Thanks for asking!

John Kissinger [07/06/2015 8:07 AM]
This article? http://www.charismamag.com/blogs/a-voice-calling-out/23487-are-you-a-word-based-disciple

John Kissinger [07/06/2015 8:07 AM]
or that one? http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/bible-study/19995-but-that-s-not-in-the-word

John Kissinger [07/10/2015 10:31 AM]
I guess P. Jenkins was not too far off in 2002 “There is now talk that the Virgin [Mary] might be proclaimed a mediator and co-Savior figure, comparable to Jesus himself, even a fourth member of the Trinity.” http://cupandcross.com/the-next-christendom/

John Kissinger [07/13/2015 5:50 AM]
John Ruffle did you get your answer here? Jon Sellers

John Ruffle [07/13/2015 6:11 AM]
Still working through it all, as been busy end of term sorting stuff out! 🙂

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3 Comments

Reply March 18, 2017
Varnel Watson

Dan Irving Who is their leader now?
Reply March 18, 2017
Dan Irving

Since the recent decease of C. Peter Wagner? Good question. Although, I don’t know that anyone exercised any real oversight of their “apostles,” so-called.
Reply March 18, 2017
Varnel Watson

Seems methodology of leadership and system structure are undergoing a major change. But to what end? Terry Wiles