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JERUSALEM — When Secretary of State Mike Pompeo sat down for an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network in a hotel in Jerusalem earlier this month, he made a remark that was perhaps the most revelatory of any in his nearly one year in office.
Mr. Pompeo talks about the rapture. “We will continue to fight these battles,” he said at a “God and Country Rally” in 2015, because there is a “never-ending struggle” until “the rapture.” “Be part of it,” he said at the meeting, at the Summit church in Wichita, Kan. “Be in the fight.”
An evangelical Christian, Mr. Pompeo had just returned from tours of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, built on the ground where Jesus is said to have been crucified and buried, and of tunnels beneath the Western Wall, by the holiest site in Judaism. The interviewer posed a question around a biblical tale about a queen who saved Jews from slaughter by a Persian official: Did Mr. Pompeo think President Trump had been “raised for such a time as this, just like Queen Esther, to help save the Jewish people from the Iranian menace?”
Pompeo’s global rapture tour
Both profess to be pro-Israel for example. Each enthusiastically backed the decision to move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem last year. Each also subscribes to the Christian Zionist belief that the rapture will only come once the Jews have all regrouped in the Holy Land. At which point, they, along with the rest of the unrighteous, will be smitten by a vengeful God. It’s pretty hard to argue that the embassy move advanced prospects for Arab-Israeli peace.
‘Brought to Jesus’: the evangelical grip on the Trump administration
“As a Christian, I certainly believe that’s possible,” Mr. Pompeo said. “It was remarkable — so we were down in the tunnels where we could see 3,000 years ago, and 2,000 years ago, if I have the history just right — to see the remarkable history of the faith in this place, and the work that our administration’s done, to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains. I am confident that the Lord is at work here.”
Studies show that white evangelicals are much more likely than other Americans to believe that Israel fulfills a biblical prophecy. Known asChristian Zionists, they believe God promised the land to the Jews, and that the gathering of Jews in Israel is foretold in the prophecy of the rapture — the ascent of Christians into the kingdom of God. In November, Mr. Pompeo told a reporter for The New York Times Magazine that the Bible “informs everything I do.” The reporter noticed an open Bible in his office, with a Swiss Army knife marking his place at the end of the book of Queen Esther.
Varnel Watson
seems even politics is pre-Trib today Link Hudson
Daniel J Hesse
Everyday?
Varnel Watson
no other way to have a day with the Lord
Varnel Watson
Philip Williams the Darby Lacunza connection is pretty well known We have actually discussed it here somewhat – paul riviera too borrowed from Lacunza I have the detail transference of pre-Trib doctrine within the USA and in fact it was NOT via Scofiled or Darby but via the Catholic church of Latin America Scofield did nothing more than popularizing a teaching that has been already prominent in non-reformed evangelical churches like many baptists at the time
Lacunza borrowed much from Fiore with his 3 eras of Father, Son and HS – Darby however did translate the BIBLE from original languages in French and English There is a small and not well known but very important book with his translators notes where he explains the actual BIBLE and then theology truth of his rapture findings during his double BIBLE translation I’ve tried to relate SOME of this to Link at times but it has proven to be a lost cause without basic understanding of at least Greek
Varnel Watson
Gary Micheal Epping WHO claims one must believe in a pretrib rapture to know Jesus and be saved? But are not going in pre-Trib rapture if you dont believe – that simple Pompeo believes 🙂
Gary Micheal Epping
If one believes in Jesus, they are going to meet him through death or if alive in the pretrib or post trib rapture, which ever it turns our to be. Simply put, NO ONE THAT HAS SALVATION IS GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND IF THERE IS A PRETRIB RAPTURE!
Varnel Watson
but WHO claimed one must believe in a pretrib rapture to know Jesus and be saved? saved from what
Daniel J Hesse
The originator was a Fr. Bertolli? In the early 1800’s with his secret rapture idea? I personally hold to the imminent any moment belief. I wondered many times in Mt 24 with the one taken and the other left could this be the 2nd coming and Another rapture together? I am not in the mind or part of those times. I personally recognize a blind spot. It’s not a deal breaker to get into heaven. Although John in 1 John speaks to it as the hope which purifies us.
Varnel Watson
what about AD 300s – Ephrem of Syria and Cyril of Rome ?
Daniel J Hesse
Troy Day source?
Varnel Watson
Ephrem of Syria and Cyril of Rome – have you not read them?
Daniel J Hesse
Where?
Varnel Watson
http://orthochristian.com/106805.html
Daniel J Hesse
They agree. The real Rapture and the Second Coming coincide together. We are in tribulation at this time.
Varnel Watson
dont wanna burst the Trump bible Nelson Banuchi
Nelson Banuchi
Troy Day you don’t want me in this conversation for two reasons: 1. I I’m not a fan of the rapture and neither, on the other hand, of Dominion theology. And, 2. I’ve never done and in depth study into this subject.
Varnel Watson
and yet here we are talking 🙂
Nelson Banuchi
I’m a sucker for debate?… what can I say…
Varnel Watson
Link Hudson if you don listen to the b-greek BIBLE at least listen to Pompeo He knows things youll never know
Link Hudson
You never did say whose view in the B Greek list youbwere endorsing. You like to link to something long (or a $1499.00) series and act like you have proven something. As I recall one poster argued for the parousia lasting a long time. It seemed tenuous and probably not an argument related much to Greek expertise but I am guessing because as I recall you did not say whose viewpoint you were endorsing.
Varnel Watson
Link – You never did say whose view in the B Greek list youbwere endorsing
Actually I did on several occasions posting linkto the complete discussion where the terms and grammar of 1 + 2 Thes + several others were explained to the fullest extend possible I also posted the Jewish wedding comparison that Paul used but I do understand that it has been several weeks since Now even Pompeo is expeting the pre-trib rapture
Link Hudson
Troy Day Okay, I’ll admit I have not read every thread, and it’s possible you posted something I missed. I haven’t read the Pompeo OP. You just keep tagging me.
I choose not to read everything because I have a life off of Facebook.
Varnel Watson
reading every thread is NOT needed – just the ones I linked to you on 1 + 2 Thes and rapture related