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Pentecostal hermeneutics and personal experiences (Revisiting the discussion on Hermeneutics in the Spirit)
Do they have an effect on interpretation? Should they? Could a Pentecostal hermeneutic with its possible emphasis on personal experience imply following Schleiermacher, Kierkegaard, and others into existential subjectivism? Could a Pentecostal hermeneutic be just another kind of new hermeneutic? agchurches.org
John Kissinger [06/25/2015 6:36 AM]
with a specific question about the role of Schleiermacher’s theological presuppositions https://books.google.com/books?id=ZBYcAe24A64C&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=schleiermacher+and+pentecostals&source=bl&ots=sT3b_abclq&sig=IYMGKeSYZDorurHtuAJUWThWf5I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4tiLVb3GNpLRggTBhICwAQ&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=schleiermacher%20and%20pentecostals&f=false
John Kissinger [06/25/2015 6:49 AM]
for some say: ‘neither’ Rick Wadholm Jr Monte Lee Rice Charles Page http://homebrewedchristianity.com/2014/05/06/neither-barth-nor-schleiermacher-modern-theology/
John Kissinger [06/25/2015 1:34 PM]
Schleiermacher? anyone? hint: he did shape modern theology
Charles Page [06/25/2015 1:36 PM]
don’t want to harm him with my clawhammer!!! 😉
Charles Page [06/25/2015 1:38 PM]
Dr. David Vanoy knows Schleiermacher!
Pentecostal Theology [06/25/2015 4:23 PM]
What would be his take on this discussion?
Varnel Watson
One of the earliest and most prominent Pentecostal discussions in this group. I often enjoy rereading it for great insights from some great Pentecostal scholars, students and minds. Maybe the youngins in the group can tell us what’s new in Pentecostal hermeneutics today? Corey Forsyth CrossTheology Vlad Stepanov Henry Volk David M. Hinsen and Alan Charles
David M. Hinsen
Following
John Ruffle
I do think we need to consider the contribution that the charismatic movement in the main line churches have made. Charismatic communities – sadly way too few – appear to have had great success in integrating a penticostalist perspective upon the paradigm of the historic apostolic faith. The sad part of the classic Pentecostal movement – and its greatest weakness- has been its denominationalism. God has used the movement in my opinion, frankly, in spite of, not because of its denominations.
Corey Forsyth
I am not much for keeping up with trends but in my small piece of the world, I find myself fighting to pull people back to a more proper interpretation of Scripture. In some cases, it has been to push them to lighten up in some areas but to tighten up in others.
We have one member who chastises every child that wears a hat in the church for disrespecting the house of God but then let’s curse words fly in the sanctuary after service… Gotta love the double standard
Jim Price
Hermeneutics is the science of interpreting what an author has written. … exegesis, which is the act of interpreting or explaining the meaning of scripture. So far I’ve seen little of an effort to really dig into a passage and develop it’s meaning for today.
John Ruffle
I recommend the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1984 and after). You don’t have to be Catholic. Just don’t swallow whenever recon you spot a bone.
CrossTheology
I think if we’re honest, experience will always somehow influence our coloured way of doing hermeneutics.
CrossTheology
What I think has developed over the years, within Pentecostalism is moving from an anti-intellectualist stand to an intellectualist approach. I believe this is a good thing, as it tries not to accept weird doctrines (for example British-Israelism) but it tries to see if the Scriptures say so, while keeping the original Pentecostal distinctives because those are believed to be Scriptural by many Pentecostals (for example: the initial physical evidence of speaking in tongues).
Mary Ellen Nissley
Yes, it’s important not to put a premium on ignorance… but then, there is also the problem of drinking from anti-pentecostal educational fountains, and the problem of leaning on the human logic instead of on the power of God.
(1 Cor 2:5)
CrossTheology
God is a logical God
Mary Ellen Nissley
Not always.
CrossTheology
I haven’t seen Him make triangular circles…
Mary Ellen Nissley
He could if he wanted to. Just because you can’t conceive of something, doesn’t mean God can’t somehow do it.
CrossTheology
No, He can’t, since that cannot possibly exist. Stop your “pious” nonsense. Love the Lord with all your mind, not with “pious” irrational claims…
Mary Ellen Nissley
LOL… I follow you…
However, I come from an extremely “logical” approach to the Scriptures… and they have so much logic that they cannot feel the Spirit of God. The Mennonite church I was raised in can explain every single Scripture perfectly logically, and cannot see beyond the logic, to feel the Spirit. This approach to the Scriptures is what I am talking about.
Actually, Jesus and the apostles used less-than-perfect hermeneutics when applying and explaining Scriptures.
CrossTheology
They often used the approach from second temple Judaism (forgot the name of the term). The Holy Spirit and logic are not in opposition. And no, triangular circles do not exist. Jesus should be Lord over your mind, that doesn’t mean at all that you put your brains aside in laziness.
Nelson Banuchi
I’m not familiar with the discussion on Pentecostal hermeneutics or hermeneutics in general. But, in relation to point #4 regarding incorporating personal experience in the interpretation of the Bible, I wrote about this on my blog: http://atdcross.blogspot.com/2015/10/experience-and-bible.html
Nelson Banuchi
Here’s something that might be of interest and relative to this discussion: http://atdcross.blogspot.com/2015/10/experience-and-bible.html
CrossTheology
Please pm this to me 🙂
Nelson Banuchi
CrossTheology done
CrossTheology
Thank you 🙂
Varnel Watson
any morning thoughts with your coffee? Christopher Noel Boggess
Christopher Noel Boggess
I think allways giving this say the lord is most important not our personal interpatation but i do think we go through personal experiences that can help our understanding. Troy Day
Christopher Noel Boggess
Does that help
Christopher Noel Boggess
Im doing a class right now on hermenuetics
Varnel Watson
Tell us what they teach is the role of the Spirit in it?
Christopher Noel Boggess
They dont not yet