Mark and Matthew record Jesus speaking Aramiac from the cross:
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34 ESV)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46 ESV)
All other times they record Jesus words using the Greek language. It is accepted that Aramaic was the language Jesus spoke. However, it is obvious that many, if not all of the Apostles were able to communicate in both Aramaic and Greek (and probably knew Latin). So it seems likely that Jesus also was able to speak in both Aramaic and Greek.
Mark and Matthew are purposeful to make the point that when Jesus quoted Psalm 22 He used Aramaic. Consequently they are purposeful to exclude any possible confusion or claim that Jesus quoted the Greek translation of the Psalm, which in the Septuagint is significantly different at that point: ὁ θεὸς ὁ θεός μου πρόσχες μοι (O God, my God, take heed to me). Quoting the Greek lacks the personal pronoun at the beginning and would also have Jesus asking God to take heed of Him, something the Aramaic precludes.
While the use of the Aramaic quotation can be seen as purposeful to ensure Jesus correctly quotes the Psalm, it also gives reason to question the assertion that all of the other sayings of Jesus were exclusively spoken in Aramaic and translated into Greek.
What is the evidence Jesus spoke exclusively in Aramaic and never used the Greek language?
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Varnel Watson
first take the train to Tellico
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3. Go to church
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4. Wait to bring them out
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5. Handle with care!
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Henry Volk Carl Barth once wrote: “…gaze at the poisonous serpent instead of striking it. It moves from the very outset in the secret respect and admiration, or at least in an atmosphere of curiosity, where distaste is the only possible attitude.” http://postbarthian.com/2016/03/09/believing-in-demons-makes-you-a-little-demonic/
Varnel Watson
Interested? Charles Page Seems your expertise is needed again
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Charles Page Interested? Seems your expertise is needed again
Jon Ray
IMO Charles Page has brought good points on snake handling in this group and could be a valuable asset in the ch. 9 conversation
Robert Borders
Are you going to go check it out first hand?
Varnel Watson
Shannon Millsaps Wtvc Several lively discussions on Facebook‘s Pentecostal Theology group has brought attention to knowledgeable participants who are not afraid to openly face the subject from both theological and historical perspectives.
Varnel Watson
I already have but this time sending Charles Page correspondent
Charles Page
I would gladly go and I would expect to be impressed with their faith level. If offered a snake I would admit that my faith level is too low.
Robert Borders
Send Wendy Bagwell if he is still living!
Varnel Watson
Just a humble observations but snake handling churches are full with people – non-snake handling churches are often as empty as Jacob’s kettle http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/if-youve-never-used-kittle/
Eva Benevento
One can only hope they do so respectfully. I am not in agreement with serpent handling or drinking poison as an act of faith, but these churches are filled with people who deeply love the Lord and are fellow heirs to the Kingdom of God.
Varnel Watson
It cant hurt right?
Walter Polasik
Much as I am weary and wary of snake-handling theology I will say that when the secular media want to investigate any church or faith-group, especially if it’s Christian, it’s usually done with an eye to showing up how naïve and stupid believers, yea, even any kind of theists, are. The media are, by and large, not only thoroughly secular by foundationally atheistic. Their whole aim is to de-bunk anything that says God may be at work in the world. Even the Roman Catholic Church, no grand paragon of Christianity, doesn’t get the same pass it usually got (as the pro forma, “accepted” church of the public face). Too many abuse scandals have rocked it and of course even its’ biblical, conservative stances on abortion and homosexuality are out of step with political correctness. So, can an investigation hurt? I think so.