Click to join the conversation with over 500,000 Pentecostal believers and scholars
Click to get our FREE MOBILE APP and stay connected
| PentecostalTheology.com
Mike Bickle has endorsed Ted Cruz. This does not make any sense whatsoever. What is Mike thinking?
John Kissinger [01/22/2016 8:44 PM]
Clearly pure #NAR kingdom-now theology? š http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ted-cruz-welcomes-endorsement-mike-bickle-who-believes-oprah-forerunner-antichrist
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 8:45 PM]
As I said, people that say he believes in it are going to have a field day.
John Kissinger [01/22/2016 8:47 PM]
“Church should be focusing of being revival to the nation and awakening the hearts of the people; not getting āour guyā in office” – your words, buddy. Kingdom-now theology does not get better than “getting our guy in office”
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 8:48 PM]
and I believe that. I do not have any faith in man!
Chris Clark [01/22/2016 10:07 PM]
So there is a problem in endorsing a particular candidate?
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 10:11 PM]
did you read it?
Tim Cushen [01/22/2016 10:18 PM]
I am still at a loss at what the real point is. Is the implication that a minister cannot have a political opinion?
Chris Clark [01/22/2016 10:18 PM]
If you are referring to me reading it, yes I read the article.
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 10:19 PM]
Yea… forget that golden calf thing… rip that out of the bible.
Chris Clark [01/22/2016 10:19 PM]
Again, I ask is there a problem in endorsing a candidate? You obviously believe that there is and I am not sure if you are for him endorsing or against him endorsing this candidate.
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 10:20 PM]
Leave the political process to the political people. The Church should be concerned with ripping people out of hell.
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 10:20 PM]
Chris, you did not read the article if you don’t know where I stand on the issue.
Tim Cushen [01/22/2016 10:20 PM]
The “church” staying out of the process is what got us in the mess we are in
Chris Clark [01/22/2016 10:20 PM]
The problem with that thought is that if the church stays out of politics as you suggest then what we get is what we currently have.
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 10:22 PM]
What part of the article was so hard to understand? You clearly didnt understand it.
Chris Clark [01/22/2016 10:28 PM]
Hard to follow your point since you support false prophets like Joel Olsteen.
Peter A Vandever [01/22/2016 10:28 PM]
https://www.facebook.com/daveramsey/videos/10153385625285886/?theater
John Kissinger [01/23/2016 5:13 AM]
Peter A Vandever it really seems like your friend has gone kingdom-NOW after brainwashed by NAR. Regardless what it says on his website. Sorry about that but that’s what it looks like after this last one
John Kissinger [01/23/2016 6:27 AM]
John Kissinger liked this on Facebook.
Jivko Stoilov [01/23/2016 6:27 AM]
Jivko Stoilov liked this on Facebook.
Loska Stoeva [01/23/2016 6:27 AM]
Loska Stoeva liked this on Facebook.
Jimmy Pearson [01/23/2016 7:02 AM]
Does endorsing a candidate necessarily equal regarding them as a savior? In a way we all endorse a candidate when we vote. The difference is this guy has more of a platform than most. I think the point about the church being the church and not tying our hope to a political candidate is a very good one. But is simply endorsing a candidate the same thing? I’m not sure it is.
John Kissinger [01/23/2016 7:22 AM]
Jimmy Pearson I think Peter A Vandever is saying that this is just a part of a larger Cruz push this week. Nothing wrong politically Roger David likes the guy BUT when the church is involved we all need to be cautious. Trump did the same long time ago http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/praying-for-the-donald-%e2%80%aa%e2%80%8etrump%e2%80%ac/
Jimmy Pearson [01/23/2016 8:26 AM]
That much I can agree with. I believe it’s good to have a healthy distrust of all politicians. Republican candidates always court the Christian vote because they have learned they must have it to win. This alone makes me Suspicious because we are being targeted. I firmly believe we should be involved in politics but we must exercise a great deal of wisdom and discernment when dealing with politicians and the political process. I try to remember that it is God who exalts and puts down rulers even if the outcomes don’t seem to make sense to me at the time.
John Kissinger [01/23/2016 8:28 AM]
Cruz is a good Canadian candidate as we’ve discussed as we’ve discussed prior with Roger David and Jon Sellers but I for one am surprised Peter A Vandever did not foresee this with all the signs in place
Terry Wiles [01/23/2016 8:28 AM]
I’m voting for Trump. Then Cruz. Then Rubio. In that order.
John Kissinger [01/23/2016 8:31 AM]
Peter A Vandever and Charles Page believe in dreams so: I dreamed being with Trump just the other night before this post. Have no clue what it means – he was not elected though was running. Maybe we should ask Charisma magazine to publish my dream if they’re reading this? Jon
Terry Wiles [01/23/2016 1:51 PM]
Now this is one negative article.
Kiril Asenov [01/23/2016 5:12 PM]
Kiril Asenov liked this on Facebook.
Nayden Velev [01/27/2016 1:27 PM]
Nayden Velev liked this on Facebook.
Varnel Watson
Peter Vandever Pre-wrath my hat James P. White may know and will tell you all about it IF he can IHOP and em supported the BIGGEST NAR-er there is under the sun And went in with the 7-mountain take over politics type of agenda Come on !
Peter Vandever
Troy Day https://www.ihopkc.org/resources/asset/2014_09_26_2000_MB_FCF/auto/true/
Varnel Watson
Peter Vandever yeah yeah š thats what ALL NARs justify it with There is NO historic premil Augustan called it as it was emperors church End of story But Trump Jentzen and Paula beat them bad from the other camp
Peter Vandever
Troy Day I know the theology of Bickle VERY well. I disagree with him strongly but he is historical premill all the way.
Varnel Watson
Peter Vandever Acts speak over theology #over
Peter Vandever
Paula White is a Jezebel! Straight up.
Varnel Watson
but shes got the presidents ear James P. White
James P. White
Troy Day please stop
Varnel Watson
your words James P. White not mine
James P. White
Troy Day you just want to argue. I’m trying to pray
Varnel Watson
James P. White turn your FB off GOD is not on messenger nowadays at least I last heard but thank you for the input Now Peter Vandever is not the authority on IHOP KC no more He was there 1999 2004 and its kind of a new century now
Peter Vandever
Troy Day how sure are you about those dates?
James P. White
Pastor Mike is entitled to his opinions, whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant. He is a man of God, I literally live within walking distance of IHOP and they do try to do everything by the standard of the Bible in the Global Prayer Room
Varnel Watson
and postMil NAR historical is by the BIBLE? James P. White It aint just HIS opinion He involved the whole IHOP in this eschatological apostasy and endorsed an OPEN NAR candidate
James P. White
Please stop
Varnel Watson
He involved the whole IHOP in this eschatological apostasy and endorsed an OPEN NAR candidate on his opinion
Anonymous
Alleged Victim 1
According to the Complaint Group this victim claims Bickle āemotionally pursued and āprophetically manipulatedā her. The relationship happened more than 25 years ago, prior to IHOPKCās founding. The relationship was not sexual, according to the information IHOPKC said it received.
Alleged Victim 2
IHOPKC said it was able to at least partially confirm this victimās claims against Bickle. The allegation is form 26 years ago, also before IHOPKC was founded. The allegations include physical contact between Bickle and the alleged victim. While it is also insinuated that a crime was involved in the relationship, IHOPKC said it has not been able to confirm that claim.
Alleged Victim 3
The information IHOPKC provided shows this victim claimed Bickle pursued her emotionally and by āprophetic manipulationā from 2013-2018. The woman then issued a public statement on Nov. 2, 2023, that she was not a victim of Bickleās.
Alleged Victim 4
While the Complaint Group included this woman as a victim of Bickleās she refuted the claims. She also said she did not want to be contacted about the issue again, according to IHOPKC.
Alleged Victim 5
This woman also refuted claims that she had been sexually and spiritually abused by Bickle. IHOPKC said its attorney spoke to the woman and she continued to deny any misconduct by Bickle.
Alleged Victim 6
IHOPKCās leadership said a woman emailed after hearing that her name was being used in the allegations against Bickle. She allegedly said that all rumors involving her and Bickle were not true and denied any form of abuse or inappropriate relationship.
IHOPKC stated in the report that during the investigation āit became apparent that the Complaint Group did not have permission to include at least four of the women in their list of alleged victims.ā