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https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/80-44/the-blood-of-christ
I think MacArthur’s point is that, even in the Old Testament economy, the sacrifice had to die, not merely bleed. Apart from His dying, we would not be saved, no matter how much He bled. Luke 9:22 says, The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day. Jesus had not only to bleed, but to die and rise for our salvation to be complete.
Indeed the blood, death, burial, and resurrection all are critical in the plan of salvation. No argument there. However, it was not just any death (like in poison). It was a death that had to involve blood – a blood sacrifice. So to say that Jesus’ Blood has nothing to do with salvation is misleading.
Living he Loved Me Dying he saved me Buried He carried my My sins far away Rising he justified me Freed me forever One day he’s coming back Glorious day
What about that healing coming from Jesus vs healing being a gift from the Holy Spirit?
The Holy Spirit applies what the Son provides in the atonement.
Effectually
Irresistibly
Varnel Watson
well Link Hudson Ricky Grimsley you probably dont like him either because his Study Bible has pretty much straight pre-Trib eschatology
Ricky Grimsley
Troy Day I don’t like MacArthur because he’s a Calvinist and because he says that if you take the mark of the beast you can still be saved.
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley but you like his pre-Trib position? Where did he say that
Ricky Grimsley
Troy Day https://youtu.be/iQKxbUamUno
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley not really what he is saying is it?
Ricky Grimsley
Yes it totally is what he says.
RichardAnna Boyce
In a book claiming to explain Jesus’ personal view of the Gospel it is inconceivable that MacArthur spends so little time explaining the significance of the work of the Cross! There is a noticeable omission of key Gospel texts concerning Christ’s death (e.g., Mark 10:45). Concepts like the substitutionary nature of the atonement and the finished nature of the work of the Cross are never fully discussed.
In fact, in reading The Gospel According to Jesus one is left with the impression that the crucifixion is almost incidental to salvation; necessary, but not central to man’s acquisition of eternal life. MacArthur’s emphasis is not on man simply receiving what Christ Himself actively accomplished through His death, but on man actively working with Christ to appropriate the benefits of the work of the Cross (again, shades of pre-Reformation theology!).
Thus, man’s devotion, and blood spilled, in taking up the cross becomes the central focus of the way of salvation. Christ’s blood spilled on the Cross is largely ignored. The very least one can say is that The Gospel According to Jesus provides a view of salvation that is out of balance. What man must do should be balanced with and preceded by a theologically adequate discussion of what Christ has already done to provide eternal life. Dr. H. A. Ironside used to say that there are really only two religions in the world: the religion of “do” and the religion of “done.” The true faith is the religion of “done.” It is the biblical Gospel expressed by Christ on the Cross: “It is finished!” All the rest of the religions of men (including, sadly, many forms of Christendom) are religions of “do.” This is the only methodology which would mirror a biblical emphasis and it is notably absent from MacArthur’s work.
Varnel Watson
MacArthur’s point is that, even in the Old Testament economy, the sacrifice had to die, not merely bleed. Apart from His dying, we would not be saved, no matter how much He bled. Luke 9:22 says, The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day. Jesus had not only to bleed, but to die and rise for our salvation to be complete.
Indeed the blood, death, burial, and resurrection all are critical in the plan of salvation. No argument there. However, it was not just any death (like in poison). It was a death that had to involve blood – a blood sacrifice. So to say that Jesus’ Blood has nothing to do with salvation is misleading.
RichardAnna Boyce
Apart from the blood of
Christ, no one would have
everlasting life.
Because of the blood of
Christ, anyone who believes
in Jesus has everlasting life.
Link Hudson
What is missing is a quote from John MacArthur about what the article is actually addressing.
I do wonder a bit about whether some Pentecostals are superstitous, praying blood on objects and situations. I don’t see that in the Bible, that we can pour invisible blood of Jesus on things by praying about it to protect those things. Maybe he is reacting to that sort of thing.
I don’t like to say that I don’t “like MacArthur.” He seems to have good things to say about many issues. I saw him boldly address some of the issues related to LGBT. But I found that he has many teachings on gifts of the Spirit that are false and quite alarming.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson. Alarming doesn’t even touch what he’s saying. You evidently didn’t read what I read. Surely Link Hudson , I would be so worried about you if you went along with what he said. Turned the Bible completely around from the meaning. It very dangerous.
Link Hudson
Louise Cummings I saw an article about him that did not quote him. I followed the link to the same article again.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson The one I watched , He was saying the ones who took the mark of the beast was the ones going to Heaven. The Scripture He was commenting on, it was talking about the hire. And you could just see hell almost from the Scripture he was reading, he was calling it Heaven. The man is in bad shape. He need prayer. And know the difference between demons and Heaven. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. If you didn’t see it I wish you could have. But not if you was going to explain it good.
Louise Cummings
I don’t know how you saw the one I did. It looked like the comments went with his to me. I dont know how you could have seen it any other way It was the most terrible thing i have ever seen.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson well the one I read was so terrible , I have never seen anything like it. Talking about the ones who took the mark of the beast was going to Heaven. And seemingly showed hell as Heaven. It was scary. I would believe anything he wrote.
Link Hudson
Louise Cummings I don’t know about the Hell as Heaven idea. But I do remember a video he took a lot of heat for where he didn’t think taking the mark of the beast would be unforgivable. He’s way off on spiritual gifts.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson He said they were the ones going to Heaven.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson you would have to read it to understand.
Louise Cummings
Where did our lesson start?i have had one Birthday wish after another today. And saw it. But didn’t get to look up anything. Because Birthday kept coming up. Everyone was So mice. , but I kept loosing my place.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson I can be almost sure. He said they were the ones going to Heaven. It’s possible I know to miss under stand. But I’m am so sure he said that. And had a picture that looked like people in hell. I was just thinking. And you think that’s Heaven. Well people will be there. But they will be screaming and bashing on one another. But they will never get out. That is what do sad. A forever in that shape. I don’t know sometimes I can eat a good meal, for thinking that some people will go there. I should be praying. And I don’t pray enough.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson He sure is. Sometimes I would just know what he does teach. But no one needs to listen to him, unless they are able to know the truth. they don’t need to be deceived.
Louise Cummings
Link Hudson I can’t believe really it’s ok to let that play. Even if I would like to know Just what he is saying.
Varnel Watson
guess you were too lazy to follow the Link from the article where he literally says that shedding of blood means much more than simply bleeding. Bleeding and dying are two different things. But bleeding and dying are not two separate elements of Christ’s sacrifice, both of which accomplish salvation. His sacrifice for sin was one act that involved both His dying and His pouring out of His blood. Sacrificial death was the essential element, and references to blood are symbolic references to the death He died.
Nathan Ridgeway
Link Hudson I have just about decided to leave this argumentative page. If you’re right, somebody wants to tell you why you’re wrong. Too many schools of thought enter here and some resist correction. What say ye?
Louise Cummings
He also said you didn’t have to have the blood of animals , in the Old Testament. But you did. The blood had to be sprinkled on the Mercy Seat in the Holy Of Holies. And the Bible clearly explains the Blood Of Jesus. He says with the shedding of Blood. There is no remission of sins. Of course the law couldn’t save you. It took The Spotless Lamb in The New Testament. That was Jesus. Without the shedding of His Blood. No one could be saved. Another thing. If he believes in Calvinist. He is wrong on that belief.
Louise Cummings
That’s true. And so many are like that today. When I was reading about McArthur. It didn’t have much about him on Facebook, where I was reading. I guess I waited to late to read it. But I read that few things and mine went into something else. I didn’t get much information from him. But what I did get , let’s me know he is probably wrong on a lot of things. But that much was on Facebook. I’m sure there was more and I just didn’t find it.
Louise Cummings
Just go to the Scripture he is talking about. He want dropped on his head to believe That’s is Heaven. Burning in flames of fire is Heaven. It sounds like he has already turned over to a reprobate mind , to believe a lie and be damned. That’s means if he has gone to far , there’s no chance for him. I know God is Merciful. But it sounds as if he has to have great Mercy for him to have a chance. I would be afraid to go to bed at night.
Louise Cummings
I found this information. Maybe I will find moire.
Louise Cummings
Stand against sin. Don’t try to make a way for it to fit. It just doesn’t fit with Gods Word.
Isara Mo
The LIFE of a creature is in the blood…
Death is cessation of life hence cessation of blood.
The shedding of the blood is the ” shedding” of life.
You cannot have death without blood..
RichardAnna Boyce
Agreeing with Link Hudson i like and agree with 90 percent of what JM preaches; he is conservative and motivated by wanting to heat up luke warm Christianity; which motivates Pentecostals too. But apart from this ‘blood’ error JM’s most dangerous teaching is Lordship Salvation. L S is the catalyst that unites the Free Grace community. I am Pentecostal Free Grace 🙂
Louise Cummings
I know I couldn’t have misunderstood what he said that bad.
Louise Cummings
I wish I could find it again. I couldn’t have been that bad off.