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Varnel Watson
Peter Christian Per your post that “Free Will is a LIE” you have been challenged to respond under this post and defend your position.
Varnel Watson
The Bible is explicit on this Joe Absher Anyone who listens to Wesley can see it. @Peter Christian is dead wrong on his non-free will assessment as are most Calvinists and all hyper Calvinists. Adam and Eve had free will before the fall – only natural ALL men are created equal with free will. Now then how Terry Wiles will explain free will and HSB without entire sanctification is entirely a mystery
Joe Absher
I’m still recovering from the last one. “Ever met anyone that got saved without their own will? You have now.” – our brother from another mother.
Varnel Watson
Wesley was a theological genius – no doubt about it but I am yet to meet a person saved without his/her free will action
Joe Absher
I think I understand but even coming into agreement with God and yielding to grace involves the will. I don’t think anybody ever got saved in their sleep
Joe Absher
Is this statement from the paper problematic?
Wesley’s understanding of free will was not founded in the acceptance or belief that man was born with a free will that was inborn or a nature free will. Rather, he held that God, in light of original sin, graced humanity with a measure of free will in order that humanity would have a choice
Varnel Watson
There was a great paper on free will by bro Steve Wright which I cant find here anymore
Joe Absher
Another paper you mean?
Varnel Watson
I guess this was the one I was looking for though Steve Wright may have part 2 too