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Is prophesying falsely okay or a sin?
Have you ever heard anyone use this verse to justify the idea that false prophesying is okay for Christians?
I Corinthians 13
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
What does it mean that prophecies shall fail?
Guest;
I think that may be being used way out of context I believe that verse is referring to all these things gifts all earthly things will fail but the return of Christ is guaranteed and will be forever
Guest;
No, no
JFB
1 Corinthians 13:8 (JFB): shall fail … vanish away—The same Greek verb is used for both; and that different from the Greek verb for “faileth.” Translate, “Shall be done away with,” that is, shall be dispensed with at the Lord’s coming, being superseded by their more perfect heavenly analogues; for instance, knowledge by intuition. Of “tongues,” which are still more temporary, the verb is “shall cease.” A primary fulfilment of Paul’s statement took place when the Church attained its maturity; then “tongues” entirely “ceased,” and “prophesyings” and “knowledge,” so far as they were supernatural gifts of the Spirit, were superseded as no longer required when the ordinary preaching of the word, and the Scriptures of the New Testament collected together, had become established institutions.
Guest;
put to death kind of sin .
Guest;
Yes, it’s a sin to prophesy falsely. The Bible warns against speaking in God’s name when he didn’t speak.
Tongues ceasing and prophecies failing speaks of them no longer being needed once that which is perfect is come and we see him face to face and understand everything fully. (A time yet to come) . It doesn’t mean FALSE prophets . They were sinful then and sinful now.
Tim Anderson
Just thinkin of this verse and wondering what thoughts members may have of it as to the question being posed.
1 Corinthians 13:8 KJV — Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
Isara Mo
Tim Anderson
Tim did the author meant cessation of gifts? Or wasn’t he comparing one virtue against another?
David Lane
He also said when that which is perfect comes then that which is imperfect will be done away with.
Tim Anderson
Isara Mo my question is that the time when “prophesies shall fail” could it be during the church age? I admit that I had never considered that being the case, but meaning when Christ returns ( that which is perfect).
Isara Mo
Tim Anderson
Honestly I don’t know..
Jim Brantley
If you take this verse literally the way you are talking about then we have nothing to look forward to except being dumb.
Joe Absher
1 Kings 10:7 KJV — Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it: and, behold, the half was not told me: thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard.
“I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.”
– job 42:5,6
The hearing of Christ isn’t the same as seeing Christ .
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
Thanks Joe
Joe Absher
And knowing Jesus Christ .
…one day we will .
kinda scarey but we trust Him in all things
Thomas Henry Jr.
A sin – Deut 13-18
Dustin Wilcox
Thomas Henry Jr. these passages are dealing with false prophets leading the people to other gods, not a sin in context of Christianity.
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox still applicable. God hasn’t changed when it comes to false prophets
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox Plus you couldn’t have read all of those chapters and made such a response.
Dustin Wilcox
Thomas Henry Jr. only the beginning of ch 13 and end of ch 18 deal with this. Plus, my statement trends through the entire the Old Testament.
See my response below if you’d like a New Testament/Christian application to the topic.
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox wrong again
Dustin Wilcox
Thomas Henry Jr. Lol
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox deut 13 deals with where false prophets get their info and how satan uses them. 13-18 goes into further details with 18 dealing with the hit and miss types.
I knew you didn’t read it because this ties to Revelation 2 and Jezebel mention there. False prophets push a mixed worship
Dustin Wilcox
Thomas Henry Jr. go read the Scripture.
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox you didn’t exegete the text. What Bible college and seminary you attended? They erred here
Dustin Wilcox
13 [a]If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer.
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox you go read my friend. I see you failed exegesis here. This will make for a good FB Live
Dustin Wilcox
4 It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox I’m done. You haven’t exegetes correctly. I avoid false teachers
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox I’m unfollowing the post so I don’t have to view your eisegesis
Dustin Wilcox
Thomas Henry Jr. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
Dustin Wilcox
You have no idea, I didn’t exegete at all, I literally just copied and pasted the text..
Thomas Henry Jr.
Dustin Wilcox don’t tagged me in your eisegesis. Next I will blocked. Don’t do false teachers
Gerardo de Dominicis
I think is better to say: “i believe the Lord wants you you to know so and so, pray about it” instead of the more dramatic, non mandatory and biblical phrase: “thus saith the Lord”.
Isara Mo
The moment you say FALSE whether in prophesying or teaching or revelation it is automatically contrary to truth… it is amiss.
Sin is defined as ” missing the mark” so FALSE PROPHESYING is undoubtly SINFUL..
The question is this:
does the one who does the FALSE prophesying do it KNOWINGLY or does he do it UNAWARES in which case it becomes it becomes difficult to judge..
Dustin Wilcox
NOT A SIN:
Sinful prophecy in the OT is mainly involved in leading people away from God or towards false gods. Penalty of death!
In the NT, the problem for Christians is hearing and interpreting the HS.
In Acts 20:16, 22; 21:4-14 —we see the disciples hear the Spirit but interpret it wrong and Paul disagrees with their warnings.
Paul in 1 Cor also tells us to “test” prophecies. So clearly the GIFT of Prophecy from the Holy Spirit needs testing for accuracy!
Marius Mateescu
Paul did not interpret the prophecy in Acts 20 wrong
Dustin Wilcox
Marius Mateescu you are right, he didn’t interpret it, not as one would tongues..
You see on ch 20 referenced there he knows he must go to Jerusalem—22 “And now, compelled by the Spirit, I am going to Jerusalem,
Look at 21:4–“We sought out the disciples there and stayed with them seven days. Through the Spirit they urged Paul not to go on to Jerusalem”
You see they perceived opposing ideas from the Spirit.
Then the prophet comes and the disciples get even more afraid and try to make Paul stay.
Dustin Wilcox
This is why I say the disciples interpreted the Spirit wrong.
Tim Anderson
It is a sin, but a forgiveable sin. We prophesy by faith.
Marius Mateescu
Lying is a sin……Jonah said in 40 days Ninevah will be destroyed . Did he lie?
Joe Absher
Jonah 4:4 KJV — Then said the LORD, Doest thou well to be angry?
Andrew Drew Hiatt
To ask a question like that really has to do with the intent or motive of the individual’s heart. In the Old Testament if someone prophesied, and it didn’t come to pass that person was killed. Today of course we are under the dispensation of grace. If someone falsely prophesies intentionally I believe it is sin.
Varnel Watson
What is the intent or motive of the individual’s heart? To control the church via false prophecy or else?
Jason d hunt
1 Corinthians 13:8 – This verse is simply saying that prophecy, tongues and the knowledge we have is temporary (See verses 9,10). Whether we receive it, or give it, it does not impact our life like Godly love does.
Prophecies …. they shall fail = the prophecy itself has an end. The effect is temporary. It doesn’t mean the prophecy is false, it means that the prophecy has an end. It won’t fulfill your life, but charity can. Charity is something that we can always do. Charity here is Agape, A divine, Godly love.
It can change your life, but not like Godly love can. We won’t fully understand prophecy, tongues or knowledge (verse 12). The prophecy may be true, but people often forget about them, or they will lose their effect. This section of the Bible is telling us the best thing we can give is love, to focus on charity.