This is one of the most wired dudes in modern day TV evangelism, definitely non-Pentecostal, Charismatic wannabe and as pure theatrics as it gets Karen Lucas David Lewayne Porter Charles Page
Francis Chan gave a passionate plea to Liberty University students at Convocation on Friday, calling them to embrace suffering as a tool for purification !?! What’s next? – worship the pope? David Lewayne Porter
I heard him say he does not pray in tongues. He was invited to speak at a “spirit filled” meeting. The message was good. It was concerning the church in China.
The Holy Spirit is the only one in charge of your spiritual gifts . Not everyone has the same gifts I speak tounges but have friends that do not they do have the Holy Ghost and spoke in tounges one time to show evidence. But they have other gifts.
There is no question that the book Crazy Love advocates a teaching called Lordship Salvation. I identify Francis Chan’s variation as extreme, primarily because Crazy Love dwells heavily on condemnation to a severe level that I have not witnessed personally in the writings of other Lordship Salvation proponents, e.g., John MacArthur, John Piper, and J. I. Packer.
It appears that in Chan’s thinking, only a tiny minority of professing Christians will be counted worthy to make it to heaven.
As the title Crazy Love suggests, Chan focuses overwhelmingly upon obsessive living for God (especially Chapter Eight, “Profile of the Obsessed”), apparently even to abandoning balance in areas of personal safety and financial security.
I found no allowances for what I call, what about situations: What about someone who is a believer but has fallen into sin? What about differences in background, personality, age or spiritual maturity?
What about biblical cases of those who could be labeled lukewarm?
Lot was a backslider his entire adult life, yet Peter calls him a righteous man in 2 Peter 2:7.
Samson was a womanizer, David was a murderer—both are listed in the Hebrews 11 hall of faith.
The Corinthian church was filled with worldly spiritual babes, much like the Laodicean church of Revelation 3.
Yet Paul refers to them often as brothers. For these reasons, I call Crazy Love extreme.
Fostering a Culture of Uncertainty As with all Lordship Salvation teaching,
Crazy Love muddies the distinction between justification and sanctification, melding them together while distorting the simple message of salvation by faith in Christ Jesus. The Lordship camp says that it’s not good enough to become saved by trusting Christ for salvation; one must also promise a lifetime of commitment to Christ, then follow through with that commitment or else be in danger of not making it to heaven one day.
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Varnel Watson
This is one of the most wired dudes in modern day TV evangelism, definitely non-Pentecostal, Charismatic wannabe and as pure theatrics as it gets Karen Lucas David Lewayne Porter Charles Page
Tony Conger
I believe that’s what the commandment means “thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain”
Varnel Watson
He is a Reformed Pastor You Won’t Believe What Francis Chan Just Told Liberty Students http://www.charismanews.com/culture/54880-you-won-t-believe-what-francis-chan-just-told-liberty-students
Karen Lucas
Simon Chan is the pentecostal theologian. Francis Chan probably is reformed. I do not get what is so shocking about the article or Chan’s visit.
Varnel Watson
Francis Chan gave a passionate plea to Liberty University students at Convocation on Friday, calling them to embrace suffering as a tool for purification !?! What’s next? – worship the pope? David Lewayne Porter
Karen Lucas
The threshing floor is a wonderful place to be.
Varnel Watson
Not sure if it was meant like that or like sort of penance
Greg Grant
So no one reads Paul? He embraced suffering and saw it as sharing the experience in Christ.
David Lewayne Porter
There is a difference between chastisement, suffering, and pruning.
As far as the MEME as posted
I have no issue with it.
Robert Borders
I think he is oriental!
Street Preacherz
I heard him say he does not pray in tongues. He was invited to speak at a “spirit filled” meeting. The message was good. It was concerning the church in China.
Varnel Watson
Another wanna be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN9gmCKO3zU
Tim Renneberg
He’s a graduate if John Macarthur’s school…
Varnel Watson
#noughsaid
Genny J Baird
The Holy Spirit is the only one in charge of your spiritual gifts . Not everyone has the same gifts I speak tounges but have friends that do not they do have the Holy Ghost and spoke in tounges one time to show evidence. But they have other gifts.
Kevin Clark
Well having the salvation seed of the Holy Spirit is one thing but the baptism of the Holy Spirit is another.
Varnel Watson
Of course not. Worst post-Christian doctrine ever. Worse than even Paul Washer
Paul Hughes
What is the issue? Suffering as a Christian? You mean sort of like all the Apostles?
Varnel Watson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi7ffRltm2E&list=PLcKJYjnEtaO67XnRD7zS3UdUA4BmSzzCm&index=1&fbclid=IwAR3xoi8_Iy_k9aLQDUuwcrp32vmV0qptfs5zNcbCHwSnvsyXM-ZWeLD6QG0
Jon Sellers
What beautiful expressions of the heart of Jesus by Francis Chan! The one who needs to repent is the heresy hunter who posted the video.
Varnel Watson
was that – now supporting NAR all the way
Daniel J Hesse
Let’s seek the face of our Lord
Varnel Watson
without falling in NAR heresy
RichardAnna Boyce
There is no question that the book Crazy Love advocates a teaching called Lordship Salvation. I identify Francis Chan’s variation as extreme, primarily because Crazy Love dwells heavily on condemnation to a severe level that I have not witnessed personally in the writings of other Lordship Salvation proponents, e.g., John MacArthur, John Piper, and J. I. Packer.
It appears that in Chan’s thinking, only a tiny minority of professing Christians will be counted worthy to make it to heaven.
As the title Crazy Love suggests, Chan focuses overwhelmingly upon obsessive living for God (especially Chapter Eight, “Profile of the Obsessed”), apparently even to abandoning balance in areas of personal safety and financial security.
I found no allowances for what I call, what about situations: What about someone who is a believer but has fallen into sin? What about differences in background, personality, age or spiritual maturity?
RichardAnna Boyce
What about biblical cases of those who could be labeled lukewarm?
Lot was a backslider his entire adult life, yet Peter calls him a righteous man in 2 Peter 2:7.
Samson was a womanizer, David was a murderer—both are listed in the Hebrews 11 hall of faith.
The Corinthian church was filled with worldly spiritual babes, much like the Laodicean church of Revelation 3.
Yet Paul refers to them often as brothers. For these reasons, I call Crazy Love extreme.
RichardAnna Boyce
Fostering a Culture of Uncertainty As with all Lordship Salvation teaching,
Crazy Love muddies the distinction between justification and sanctification, melding them together while distorting the simple message of salvation by faith in Christ Jesus. The Lordship camp says that it’s not good enough to become saved by trusting Christ for salvation; one must also promise a lifetime of commitment to Christ, then follow through with that commitment or else be in danger of not making it to heaven one day.
Varnel Watson
REPENTANCE lead to SALVATION – plain and simple Jon Sellers Suppose you were not referring to his tongue speaking