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| PentecostalTheology.comPentecostal Theology According to the Theologians: An Introduction to the Theological Methods of Pentecostal Systematic Theologians Christopher Adam Step
French L. Arrington is an ordained bishop in the Church of God (Cleveland, TN), within which he has significantly influenced theological education. He has served on the denomination?s board of education and its commission on doctrine and polity, in addition to devoting himself to pastoral work for over fifteen years. An accomplished scholar and author, he holds the Ph.D. in biblical languages with an emphasis in Pauline studies from St. Louis University, which he received under the direction of Keith F. Nickle (1975).19 Before retiring from full-time teaching, he was a member of the Lee University faculty, and from 1981 to 2002 he was Professor of New Testament Greek and Exegesis at the Church of God Theological Seminary, both in Cleveland, TN.
Varnel Watson
Dan Irving Absolutely NO idea why FB is messing with thumbs and group posts this week
Varnel Watson
Ira Huth IMO Bro French is one of the top theologians in American Pentecostalism today
Ira Huth
Brother Troy Day Since he was on the faculty at Lee starting in 1981, my Pastor didn’t have him. He went to Lee in the 70’s, but I’m sure he knows him.
Varnel Watson
Thanks to French we have the Fire Bible and several monumental works in Pentecostal Theology Recently he put to rest all new theologians who say it is ok to drink alcohol
Ira Huth
He taught this course New Testament Greek for Brother Perry Stone and Dr. Bryan Cutshall and it will be offered through ISOW ( International School Of The Word).
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1074804505902126&id=1012532332129344
Varnel Watson
were you there in Cleveland? Ira Huth I once watched French write the whole 1 Cor ch 15 on the black board in Greek without looking at any book just out of memory
Ira Huth
I registered for that course but unfortunately something came up and I had to cancel. I have been to others and I’m planning on taken some of the courses again once they go online. I might be heading down there this coming March or April. Dr. Cutshall preached at our Campmeeting for the State of Indiana last year. His message was on Bows and Arrows the older generation and the younger generation Psalms 127. I heard him teach the same message at OCI in Cleveland for a taping for ISOW. It’s a good message, I took a lot of notes. I’m looking forward on taking that course on New Testament Greek with Brother French.
Varnel Watson
Where did you find out Perry advises Trump. I’ve never heard of that and also was under the impression Perry left the GOP
Ira Huth
He has talked to him on a few occasions and both Perry and Jetezen Franklin have been to the White House , and I believe I briefly heard Perry say in one of his messages “Trump during his visit to OCI”.
Also Jetezen is on his Evangelical Avisory Board and Jetezen and Perry our very close. I have heard and read that Trump has sought advice at different times from several Ministers.
And Troy Day I KEEP TELLING OVER AND OVER JUST LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE THE ENTIRE YOU TUBE VIDEO THAT YOU POSTED.HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ESTABLISHED REPUBLICANS THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTING THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM AND THAT WAS TRYING TO DESTROY TRUMP. PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE VIDEO THAT YOU POSTED.
Varnel Watson
I’ve listen to the thing many times. There were also other private occasions when he mentioned Trump being no republican having 3 wives and so on. I’d like to see a link to that pls “Trump during his visit to OCI”.
Ira Huth
It’s the you tube video that you posted in a comment above.
Ira Huth
I’m sorry not this post but one of the other posts.
Varnel Watson
My question was about Perry being Trump’s adviser. I have heard nothing to that extend. You said it is in the video?
Ira Huth
I did not say he is his advisor I said he has given him his thoughts and advice on different occasions. Quite frankly I don’t care.
Louise Cummings
I hadn’t heard that either. But they would have a good one if He needs to know things about the Middle East. He has been there so many times.
Varnel Watson
Bro Ira Huth this is not to offend you I just want to make sure I understand what you meant when you wrote this and I quote
“But he is surrounded with some good Spiritual Godly advisors other than Vice President Pence ( obviously not perfect but good) whether in or outside his Evangelical Cabinet. Advisors like Brother Jetenzen Franklin, Brother Samuel Rodriguez and Brother Perry Stone just to name a few that he respects and seeks advice from.”
The way it was written it reads that Perry is an actual adviser of POUTS in the same or similar capacity like Franklin. I respect both, but Franklin’s appearance on the said board was seen by many as a down fault in his ministry stance. Now I know Perry would never do that so I was startled when you projected him as a POTUS adviser with what you just wrote on several occasions. Just a clarification!
Ira Huth
https://youtu.be/f2z1rzdcp2M
Varnel Watson
hear that Ricky Grimsley I think any president thus far has preceded the antichrist; except if immediate preceding is meant here (which is not) like today Trump, tomorrow the antiChrsit Randy Buchanan is this what the Jerusalem act wants to do?
Ira Huth
I have heard Brother Troy Day from good personal sources that Perry is involved behind the scenes with what is going on in the White House. And I’m quite confident that Brother Jetezen has been able to give Perry access and or a platform. As you can hear in this video that I just posted he is not publicly saying anything specific other than he is involved and knows what is happening behind the scenes. As even some of your posts as well as other posts, it is very clear that he has a lot of knowledge and information of what is going on behind the scenes.
Ira Huth
Brother Troy your not offending me and I apologize if I’m coming off as a little short. I’m just a little tired!!
Ricky Grimsley
1. How can perry believe trump is delaying the Antichrist if he isnt an open-theist.
2. If Trump defeats israel enemies might the israelis start believing he is their messiah and perhaps be the Antichrist?
Probably not. But again i think pretrib thinking presents a problem here because you wont recognize the Antichrist because you are so positive you will be gone.
Varnel Watson
Ricky do you mean not delaying but bringing?
Ricky Grimsley
Perry believes trump is delaying but it looks like he is speeding it up to me.
Ira Huth
Ricky Grimsley Troy Day Maybe He is not delaying or speeding it up!! Maybe it’s the Holy Spirit!! Now that’s a thought!!!!
Ira Huth
LOL!!! Perhaps he is the Anti- Christ!! Just rest in the Lord my Brothers fulfilling the Great Commission!!
Ricky Grimsley
According to most people’s thoughts, its a set day that cant be sped up or delayed.
Varnel Watson
Grandma Louise this is disturbing even to me
Louise Cummings
Troy Day I don’t know how this got on here. I’m so sorry. It’s disturbing to me also. I don’t know what I hit to put this there. I would never do that. I’m almost 80 years old and a Christian and I would never post that intentionally. I’m trying to delete it.
Louise Cummings
I didn’t ever get to see this. I would love to see it.
Louise Cummings
Where could I see this video?
Randy Buchanan
Perry Stone not on Trump’s Evangelical Council
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/june-web-only/whos-who-of-trumps-tremendous-faith-advisors.html
Ricky Grimsley
There are many new world order hacks in that list.
Ira Huth
Brother Randy Buchanan just to set the record straight I have never said he is his advisor. I said and meant he has meet him and being in a inner circle of other ministries has the ability, opportunity and platform to have access behind the scenes. Which I’m confident that he is.
Varnel Watson
Randy I think bro Ira clarified what he meant was not Perry was on the council but did provide occasional opinion if asked I think Perry was also clear that “If the embassy does or does not open, it will make no difference” /his words/ I do not believe that the presidential advocacy over Jerusalem has been among his concerns. If it has he has not told us just yet publicly but I am still not persuaded he is in support of last weeks announcement
Ricky Grimsley
Dis you say william branham was never wrong?
Varnel Watson
Perry will be releasing a word the Lord showed him in Israel, called “The Last of the Giants!” He will share a revelation of what is about to happen that will change the face of the Middle – East and about a secret excavation and a discovery that was made 2 weeks ago! You don’t want to miss it
Ricky Grimsley
When is it?
Varnel Watson
Last of the Giants title seems to be from Game of Thrones
Robert Borders
Branham made his share of mistakes and Perry is the last person I would turn to for prophetic guidance. The Church in the USA has already largely disappeared!
Ira Huth
Brother Robert Borders you are correct that Branham towards the end of his ministry made a share of mistakes as even some of his followers to this day with the shrine for a quick example. All of us since the beginning of time has made mistakes in one form or fashion. We have not arrived at our immortality, incorruptible perfect state yet. That being said your statement that Brother Perry Stone is the last person you would turn to for Prophetic guidance guidance. Can you please very briefly tell me why??? I have a very very important reason on asking you?? Thanks!!!!
Varnel Watson
Ricky Grimsley Sure sounds like Trump is the Restrainer 🙂 he put the CoG in the wheel (what about our AoG?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2z1rzdcp2M&feature=youtu.be wrong quote by Perry not THAT the restraineth but HE that restraineth (meaning the church)
Ricky Grimsley
Could be
Varnel Watson
Ricky If you really think Trump is the Restrainer you are like any other Shemita blood moon “prophecy” out there we have heard so far
Ricky Grimsley
I dont think trump is the restrainer
Varnel Watson
Did you not say he could be?
Ricky Grimsley
Yes. Possible. We didnt know “out of egypt i have called my son” was a messianic prophecy until the New Testament told us. Prophecy is cryptic for a reason. Gotta keep the devil in the dark. “For if they had known thy would not have crucified the lord of glory”
Ira Huth
Brother Troy Day BTW Sunday I talked to my Pastor Brother Jerry Martin about Brother French Arrington. He said he knew him and very much admired him learning a great deal. He said he had him as a instructor at Lee in the 60’s. He also said his wife Sister Martin in the 60’s worked in the library at Lee with Brother French’s wife.
I was just looking at all our comments in our previous discussions looking for one comment that you made and could not find it. I could be mistaken, but I thought I read a comment that you made stating something about Brother French starting to teach at Lee in 1981.
Regardless I just wanted to share with you the conversation I had with my Pastor, who is an awesome,awesome Pastor and man of God.
Knowing all this now about Brother French. Is causing me to really regret big time not going to Perry Stone’s In Cleveland. For the class taping of the course on New Testament Greek and meeting him. I’m definitely planning on taking that course once ISOW ( International School Of The Word ) goes online.
Robert Borders
I knew a Jerry Martin that was a COG pastor in Indiana back in the early 1970s. I studied under French Arrington at the old Church of God School of Theology and dearly loved the man.
Ira Huth
Robert Borders He’s my Pastor and has been our Family’s Pastor since the early 80’s when he came to Portage, Indiana.
Robert Borders
French Arrington started teaching at the Church of God School of Theology in 1975 when the new seminary was first started. He had taught at Lee College for a number of years before this. Jerry Martin was pastor in Lafayette, IN at some point before he came to Portage. Larry Martin (not related to Jerry) was my pastor at the Church of God in Lafayette when I first started attending the COG during my 1972-1973 school year while a freshman at Purdue University. I transferred to Lee College in January of 1975. I do remember meeting Jerry Martin while I was still at Purdue. We were both much younger then! Are you still in Indiana? I have an assessment to do in Rossville in the morning.
Ira Huth
Brother Martin from time to time talks about those early days when he’s preaching or teaching along with his childhood growing up in Dora, Alabama.
Yes I live in Portage and still attend Central COG and Brother and Sister Martin is still there as well, with their daughter Bethany Martin as our Director of Music and another daughter Dori working in the office. Brother and Sister Martin during the last few years as they were looking towards retirement. Was looking at house’s to buy down around the Cleveland area as their third daughter and hsband lives in Cleveland. But decided to buy a house in Portage. They moved out of parsonage and decided not to retire at this point.
When Brother and Sister Martin started their ministry in Portage in the early 80’s. My Dad, Mother, Sister and I was attending the Lake Station COG and our parents felt strongly lead to transfer our membership to Portage. My Sister for years was the Assistant Secretary.There is a awesome, awesome sweet powerful Spirit in that Church. A powerful COG Evangelist Betty Shaver back in the 80’s while my Dad, Mom and Sister were still living preached a Revival at Central COG and gave a powerful Prophecy. Till this day our congregation is standing and believing on that Prophecy.
Isn’t Rossville close to Lafayette? I have a Security business and we just sold and installed a Security Camera Surveillance System to a Super 8 Motel in Lafayette about a month ago.
We have some close friends that attended Lake Station COG and eventually transferred their membership to Portage to help the Martin’s ministry. Jesse L Moore, Brother and Sister Lowe, Jimmy and Shirley Burchell. They had a singing group that you might of heard called the Lowes. Brother Jimmy and Sister Shirley Burchell left Central COG to Pastor Lafayette COG. Brother Jimmy a few years back passed away, but Sister Shirley is still there. Also around the same time Brother and Sister Jesse Moore left Central COG to start a Church in LaPorte and they are still there. As matter of fact I was their guest speaker for their Father’s Day service this year.
Well if your ever in our area we would love to have stop by for a visit. God Bless, have fun and give God the Glory!!!!
Varnel Watson
Robert Borders Anyone studied under Dr French Arrington , Dr Steven Land and Dr. R. Hollis Gause should have been pre-mil non-dispensation believing the Spirit works in all ages and not limited per dispensation of grace alone. Have you all seen his last great paper against drinking Anyone studied under Dr French Arrington , Dr Steven Land and Dr. R. Hollis Gause should have been pre-mil non-dispensation believing the Spirit works in all ages and not limited per dispensation of grace alone. Have you all seen his last great paper against drinking
http://churchofgod.org.s3.amazonaws.com/downloads/doctrine-and-polity-papers/Abstinence-of-Liquors-Arrington.pdf
Robert Borders
I didn’t study under Steve Land but did study under Hollis Gause and French Arrington. I was a Science Education Major at Lee so they strongly recommend that I study at the Church of God School of Theology.
Varnel Watson
Did you turn dispensational ?