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Peter A Vandever | PentecostalTheology.com
I like Cindy Jacobs. I do but what do we do with her failed prophetic words about the Philippines? Biblical, what do we do?
Gerald Creasy [09/15/2015 6:10 PM]
Nut Job
Link Hudson [09/15/2015 8:25 PM]
I’ve heard the name Cindy Jacobs and I’ve seen clips. I watched a couple of her videos on your blog, there. Personally, I think if you are going to accuse someone of a sin, you should have solid evidence. Prophesying falsely in the name of the LORD is bad enough to have been a death penalty crime in Israel. I can understand if, spiritually, you perceive that a prophecy is not from God and you want to share that, or to share a prophecy or revelation about a prophecy that isn’t genuine. But if you are just going from your own political senses, if this preacher she prophesied over is still alive, you don’t have any real objective grounds to condemn this prophecy.
Some prophecies take a long time to come to pass. Joseph had prophetic dreams about his brothers bowing down to him. Then he was sold as a slave. A slave in Egypt become master over his brothers in Canaan? How is that possible? Then he got thrown into prison.
Samuel annointed David king, but then Saul threw a spear at him and chased him around the coutnry trying to kill him. Finally, David fled to Philistia. What? some Israelite fighting with the Philistines hopes to the be king over Israel? What were the chances that what Samuel thought God told him about David was right?
How many decades did jeremiah spend prophesying about coming judgment and captivity while Judah lived in relative peace? what about all the prophets who prophesied before him? It must have felt like the prophecy would never come to pass. No doubt, many people who knew the political climate who heard Jeremiah yelling and crowds of people about these things must have thought he was nuts, that he was a proven false prophet whose words never came to pass.
If you know she’s prophesied something that is really objectively false, why don’t you post that, instead of something like this– a prophecy that hasn’t been fulfilled, but could theoretically come to pass. Sure, it doesn’t seem likely to come to pass, but that doesn’t mean it won’t. Also, this prophecy seemed to be conditional, that it is God’s will for him to be president, according to her, and there is a need for intercession. That doesn’t fit well with the thinking of heavily deterministic Calvinists who think history is already laid out in detail. But much of the Bible does not seem to be written from that perspective, IMO. if God is not willing that any should perish, does that mean that no one will really perish.
This article about suspected oil is interesting in light of one of her propheciesi on her page.ke I said, I don’t know much about Cindy Jacobs, and I can’t comment much on her track record. TThis article about suspected oil is interesting in light of one of her prophecies on her page, http://www.interaksyon.com/article/41819/west-philippine-sea-rich-in-oil-deposits—doe
Derrick Harmon [09/15/2015 9:08 PM]
If she lived during the OT time she would be stoned.
Charles Page [09/15/2015 9:16 PM]
we like prophecy regardless if it is true or not. “Pickles have souls”
David Price [09/15/2015 10:17 PM]
Well you don’t take the True part and disregard the part that didn’t come to pass. False prophet. God is always 100% right.
Peter A Vandever [09/15/2015 10:22 PM]
We see in part. We know in part. I do not mind someone a little off. If they hit the general target, I am ok with that….. it if the are completely off time and time again, that is different.
Robert Borders
Cindy is a dear lady and a zealous Christian but has missed the mark on many prophecies as do most of our contemporary prophetic people.
Ricky Grimsley
What do you like about her?
Robert Borders
She has been a wonderful intercessor for pastors and leaders as well as providing good teaching on prayer.
David Lewayne Porter
Discount her and take what she does in the future very litely.
Stan Wayne
Ok what was the prophecy and the outcome?
Stan Wayne
What would be wrong with the false prophet status applied?
Walter Polasik
Stan Wayne: As to the false prophet status, it is very warranted. Jacobs is only one of many preacherettes/authors hailed by and allowed by a feminist mentality-dominated charismatic (not Biblical) culture that stubbornly refuses to recognize several important things: 1) Biblically, there is not such a thing as a woman pastor/preacher. You won’t find it in the Bible, nor in New Testament usage, nor in Old Testament precedent. 2) The thing to do in “popular ministry” today is to write books (sensational usually) and put yourself on the market: “bestseller” if you can get that title. Now, mind you, Charismatic authors aren’t the only ones to have fallen into this trap, so have Evangelical, Baptist etc. (Like John McArthur, a.k.a. “Mr. Facelift…..heard about that one?) They’re all “ministering” by putting out a book every three months. Pretty convenient (and profitable too). Most average pastors (especially those who work full time while also pastoring) just don’t get to do that. There’s also the little point about how ANYONE can effectively pastor several thousand people. But that’s another story). 3) This means that, a lot of “ministering” is getting out to people but it doesn’t mean that it’s all BIBLICAL. As for the “prophecy”….multiply prophecies like the one Jacobs gave a hundred fold and you’ll see why Cessationists dismiss Pentecostalism without a second glance. Brothers and sister: WE have allowed the hucksters, charlatans and false apostles to give the Holy Spirit a bad name.
Stan Wayne
Deborah was a Judge
Stan Wayne
Philips daughters prophesied
Stan Wayne
Junia was an apostle
Stan Wayne
Priscilla was a teacher of apostles
Stan Wayne
Anna was a prophetess
Walter Polasik
Stan Wayne: Right, not a preacher. And she was an anomaly. Even SHE said that Barak would not get the blessing because he asked her to go with him. (Judges 4:8,9). As to Priscilla: wrong. She and her HUSBAND (Aquila) did teach Apollos—who was NOT an apostle. But the kind of teaching (correction) she did was in conjunction with her HUSBAND and not in the church ( I Tim. 2:11,12). Um, no,—I’ve already heard this charismatic argument before. It don’t fly.
Walter Polasik
Anna was a prophetess and so were Phillip’s daughters: BUT A PROPHETESS (OR PROPHET0 IS NOT THE SAME AS A PASTOR.
Walter Polasik
(Incidentally, I’m Assembly of God and I still don’t agree with their reasoning for ordaining women. It’s biblically unwarranted, period. Do they take verses out of context to justify it (citing some of what you have)? Yes. But it won’t hold “in court”. Historically, (unfortunately) feminism has greatly influenced Pentecostalism.
Street Preacherz
By no means do I condone false prophesy. Or grand standing in the body of Christ which some so called Prophets do. Some of what is called ‘prophesy’ is just good Bible encouragement with the unction of the holy ghost. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophesy. “You’re gonna make it” you’ve struggled, God knows, he been with you through it all. just remain faithful and stay humble God will make a way. He’ll promote you.”
Then sometimes when faith is “high” (or the conterfiet self promotion or the need to produce,) out comes the big guns big aims, big ideas, big bigger biggest! I once prophesies God was gonna burn up the bamboo curtain and send revival and liberty to the nation of China. That was 14? Years ago. I don’t know if there are any changes. I once prophesied God would send a wind of revival to Mexico. Then the beheadings started. There are some good and significant works now. But they threw me out if the church told me never come back. It was freezing rain. My good friend was driving he stayed for the service. So i walked in freezing rain. I called a pastor friend and left a message God would cause his voice to jump from hill to hill like the sound of chariots. I didn’t know he was having surgery for his voice. I saw him last year or so on YouTube giving a fine message.
What am I saying?
There is a little verse in Romans, 12:6
“Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;” sometimes you’re talking to the mountain sometimes your just talking. But I think as Pentecostals we can agree a spirit of faith in the operation of “special faith” is supernatural power invested in the blood bought child of God. In the person of the Holy Ghost.
Dan Irving
Think again. She is 7MM/ NAR/ Prosperity all the way. Therefore, I would not trust her prophesying if it called grass green.
Daniel J Hesse
Change the channel.