I heard Perry Stone once on a Free Chapel recording say that a message was not to be interpreted, but it was for someone listening by Internet. He spoke in tongues, and then went on. I took the clip and played it for a professor who spoke Arabic and Kurdish because it sounded middle eastern. But the professor said he didn’t know the language. Maybe it was Kurdish. He said it was middle eastern. If someone heard and understood by Internet, I’d like to hear the testimony.
I went to chuch at an A/G that had a Bible College attached (JSBC) in the 1980s. The teaching there was that you don’t speak out in tongues unless there was an interpreter. As I recall, they didn’t all pray at the same time in tongues (or English.) The A/Gs my family went to (one we tried for a few weeks before settling into another, as I recall, did not all speak in tongues (or English) at the same time.
The idea presumably is that ‘keep silent in the church’ means don’t say it in church, say it elsewhere.
Many of the Pentecostal denominations from the southeast have a practice of everyone praying at the same time, in English, or in tongues. Not all churches in every denomination do this.
Some of the Charismatics will tell everyone to pray in tongues at the same time. Some of the A/G’s do this.
Everyone speaking in tongues at the same time would make visitors who are unfamiliar thing you are crazy.
I am more on the turn-taking side of things, rather than everyone doing something at the same time– unless it is edifying and we can understand like congregational singing. I don’t see congregational singing as a command, since turn-taking in singing can also fulfill what we are taught to do.
The ‘decently and in order’ order of I Corinthians 14 allows for ‘every one of you’ to sing, teach, share revelations, tongues, and interpretations within the parameters of the commandments of the Lord laid down in the passage.
The order for church meetings allows prophets to speak two or three and to let the other judge. It has the speaking prophet hold his peace if another sitting by receives a revelation.
Troy Day Other than that recording, I haven’t heard speaking in tongues out in the congregation at Free Chapel. I’ve visited once or twice a year for the past two years. My dad goes there.
Troy Day, You should consider what Paul says in this chapter:
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation.
What is Paul’s comment on this? Shut up? Sit down? No, it is, “Let all things be done unto edifying.”
There are these commands, which I summarized:
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
You would do well to accept and submit to Paul’s exhortation:
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
THE initial evidence is a strong BIBLE teaching which virtually ALL early Pentecostals and prior holiness movement upheld high
the GIFT of speaking in tongues from 1 Cor 14 is the same in origin but different in implementation and purpose
prayer language AS introduced in the 70-80s by community churches which turned early charismatics is a whole different animal that may need a bit stronger Biblical exploration
Most importantly as Dr William DeArteaga @William DeArteaga advises QUENCH not the SPIRIT and ttongues shall not cease
Varnel Watson
good solid Pentecostal teaching Link Hudson
Daniel J Hesse
Basura.
Link Hudson
I heard Perry Stone once on a Free Chapel recording say that a message was not to be interpreted, but it was for someone listening by Internet. He spoke in tongues, and then went on. I took the clip and played it for a professor who spoke Arabic and Kurdish because it sounded middle eastern. But the professor said he didn’t know the language. Maybe it was Kurdish. He said it was middle eastern. If someone heard and understood by Internet, I’d like to hear the testimony.
Link Hudson
I went to chuch at an A/G that had a Bible College attached (JSBC) in the 1980s. The teaching there was that you don’t speak out in tongues unless there was an interpreter. As I recall, they didn’t all pray at the same time in tongues (or English.) The A/Gs my family went to (one we tried for a few weeks before settling into another, as I recall, did not all speak in tongues (or English) at the same time.
The idea presumably is that ‘keep silent in the church’ means don’t say it in church, say it elsewhere.
Many of the Pentecostal denominations from the southeast have a practice of everyone praying at the same time, in English, or in tongues. Not all churches in every denomination do this.
Some of the Charismatics will tell everyone to pray in tongues at the same time. Some of the A/G’s do this.
Everyone speaking in tongues at the same time would make visitors who are unfamiliar thing you are crazy.
I am more on the turn-taking side of things, rather than everyone doing something at the same time– unless it is edifying and we can understand like congregational singing. I don’t see congregational singing as a command, since turn-taking in singing can also fulfill what we are taught to do.
Varnel Watson
#irrelevant
Link Hudson
Troy Day It’s a comment on his interpretation of I Corinthians 14:28.
Link Hudson
The ‘decently and in order’ order of I Corinthians 14 allows for ‘every one of you’ to sing, teach, share revelations, tongues, and interpretations within the parameters of the commandments of the Lord laid down in the passage.
The order for church meetings allows prophets to speak two or three and to let the other judge. It has the speaking prophet hold his peace if another sitting by receives a revelation.
Varnel Watson
this shows you aint got a clue
Link Hudson
Do you disagree with the order shown in I Corinthians 14? I just paraphrased part of the passage.
Varnel Watson
did you watch the video and how is this related?
Link Hudson
Troy Day Comments on things he said in the video.
Varnel Watson
hardly – do they speak in tongues in Free Chapel ?
Link Hudson
Troy Day Other than that recording, I haven’t heard speaking in tongues out in the congregation at Free Chapel. I’ve visited once or twice a year for the past two years. My dad goes there.
Varnel Watson
that’s what I’ve been hearing lately …
Link Hudson
Troy Day, You should consider what Paul says in this chapter:
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation.
What is Paul’s comment on this? Shut up? Sit down? No, it is, “Let all things be done unto edifying.”
There are these commands, which I summarized:
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
You would do well to accept and submit to Paul’s exhortation:
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Varnel Watson
I’ve considered it long time ago in many other OPs This one does not seem to fit your narrative that well
Varnel Watson
THE initial evidence is a strong BIBLE teaching which virtually ALL early Pentecostals and prior holiness movement upheld high
the GIFT of speaking in tongues from 1 Cor 14 is the same in origin but different in implementation and purpose
prayer language AS introduced in the 70-80s by community churches which turned early charismatics is a whole different animal that may need a bit stronger Biblical exploration
Most importantly as Dr William DeArteaga @William DeArteaga advises QUENCH not the SPIRIT and ttongues shall not cease