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How to find out IF a church member is a MASON?
Varnel Watson
we still dont really know William DeArteaga Darryl Forbes
Bruce Gordon
Troy Day unless the Holy Spirit tells us maybe.
Varnel Watson
Bruce Gordon I agree with you Lots of ppl say JUST ASK but come on š you dont expect a secret society member to just reveal especially WHEN they are in a church which strictly forbids it and they manipulate the church with it
Luis A. Kahn
It has no text
Varnel Watson
its a QUESTION- you got answers?
Anonymous
Ask
Varnel Watson
still pondering onto HOW to tell them apart Bruce Gordon Ray E Horton
Jevan Little
Follow him
Varnel Watson
stalking? no thanks
Jevan Little
Hire a PI.
Varnel Watson
no need – their cars are at lodge at the appointed time for all to see them BUT what Christian would involve like that?
Darryl Forbes
Know the tree by the fruit. I really don’t think it’s 100% vital or even POSSIBLE to know each person’s specific sin unless the Spirit reveals it to us. If we’re walking in the Spirit, HE will let us know what we NEED to know in order to protect the church from those who would harm it. Just pray for God’s protection s and let him decide HOW to do it. Sometimes trying to deal too agressively with the Tares will cause us to harm some wheat.
Varnel Watson
are you saying masonry is a SIN that needs to be called out of the church like a demon? or a demonized person Isara Mo
Darryl Forbes
It’s our job to be available for God to show us what we need to know when we need to know it AND to give us wisdom as to what to do with that information. It’s the SPIRIT’S job to do what we are unable to do.
Do we TRUST him to do his job or not?
Darryl Forbes
I’m in guard for wolves. I don’t necessarily care what breed of wolf they are. If God shows me that their intentions are ungodly, that’s all I need to know. I didn’t need to know whether it’s because they are Masons or if they are simply dishonest, or if they are just evil for no reason.
Varnel Watson
Darryl Forbes the ONLY WAY for a shepherd to breed wolves is BY feeding them raw sheep from his flock JUST think about it !!! BUT not revealing the mason in the church in time will SURE feed the wolf WITH many sheep AND pastors
Darryl Forbes
Troy Day again, we donāt need to know the BREED of wolf. The shepherd sees a wolfā he doesnāt necessarily need to know if itās a grey wolf, Artic wolf, Ethiopian wolf, etc. Itās a wolf. Protect the sheep. Likewise, if God has shown us thay this person will harm the sheep in the Church. But he hasnt FULLY revealed what this personās issue is, then we need not know for now whether itās because they are a mason or whether itās because of something else. We act on the information God gives us. We TRUST HIM to know the reason even if he hasnt shown it to us yet.
Darryl Forbes
If a person is hiding who they are, we MUST depend on God to reveal them. Although we are to be on guard and watchful, God does not require or expect us to go snooping into peopleās lives. He knows ALL. He will reveal in due time. If a person is bold enough to hide the fact that they are in a secret, unGodly organization, then we can 100% depend on the Holy Spirit to reveal it in time.
Darryl Forbes
There are many foul spirits that seek to secretly control the Church . There is ONE spirit that Reveal them and protect us. Let HIM control, lead, and guide us. Thatās all thatās always required.
Varnel Watson
Darryl Forbes If a person is hiding who they are, we MUST depend on God to reveal them.
Darryl Forbes
Troy Day thatās what Iām saying. And sometimes he reveals slowly. Sometimes he reveals in an instant. Sometimes he simply lets us know that a person is dangerous, but he doesnāt tell us why. He simply expects us to Trust him. Other times he reveals that a person is dangerous AND why they are dangerous. EITHER WAY we are to act on his revelation.
Varnel Watson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmqu4USsuO0&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1wRMuDLmX92w02tLp-YCyRM0tgxMqE_PcocK5eeh9RuGKzpo9zKe8gpzg
Varnel Watson
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/prayer-of-release-for-freemasons-and-their-descendants/
Keith Brich
Ask him?
Varnel Watson
him or her? they wouldnt tell ya straight plain
Zach Blood
They are usually like vegans. They will tell YOU
Varnel Watson
they actually are pretty secretive and hide it well
Maria Carub
What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?”
Answer: Freemasonry, Eastern Star, and other similar “secret” organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them appear to promote belief in God. However, upon closer examination, we find that the only belief requirement is not that one must believe in the True and Living God, but rather, that one must believe in the existence of a āSupreme Beingā, which includes the āgodsā of Islam, Hinduism, or any other world religion. The unbiblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices of this organization are partially hidden beneath an outward appearance of a supposed compatibility with the Christian faith. The following is a comparison of what the Bible says with the “official” position of Freemasonry:
Salvation from Sin:
The Bibleās View: Jesus became the sinnerās sacrifice before God when He shed His blood and died as the propitiation (payment) for the sins of all those who would ever believe (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:8, John 3:16).
Masonās View: The very process of joining the Lodge requires Christians to ignore the exclusivity of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. According to Freemasonry, a person will be saved and go to heaven as a result of his good works and personal self-improvement.
The View of the Bible:
The Bibleās View: The supernatural and plenary inspiration of the Scripturesāthat they are inerrant and that their teachings and authority are absolute, supreme, and final. The Bible is the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Thessalonians 2:13).
Masonās View: The Bible is only one of several āVolume(s) of Sacred Law,ā all of which are deemed to be equally important in Freemasonry. The Bible is an important book, only as far as those members who claim to be Christians are concerned, just as the Koran is important to Muslims. The Bible is not considered to be the exclusive Word of God, nor is it considered to be Godās sole revelation of himself to humankind; but only one of many religious sourcebooks. It is a good guide for morality. The Bible is used primarily as a symbol of Godās will, which can also be captured in other sacred texts, like the Koran or Rig Vedas.
The Doctrine of God:
The Bibleās View: There is one God. The various names of God refer to the God of Israel and reveal certain attributes of God. To worship other gods or to call upon other deities is idolatry (Exodus 20:3). Paul spoke of idolatry as a heinous sin (1 Corinthians 10:14) and John said that idolaters will perish in hell (Revelation 21:8).
Masonās View: All members must believe in a deity. Different religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.) acknowledge the same God, only call Him different names. Freemasonry invites people of all faiths, even if they use different names for the āNameless One of a hundred names,ā they are yet praying to the one God and Father of all.
The Doctrine of Jesus and the Trinity:
The Bibleās View: Jesus was God in human form (Matthew 1:18-24, John 1:1). Jesus is the second person of the trinity (Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:9-11). While on earth, He was fully human (Mark 4:38, Matthew 4:2) and fully divine (John 20:28, John 1:1-2, Acts 4:10-12). Christians should pray in Jesusā name and proclaim Him before others, regardless of offense to non-Christians (John 14:13-14, 1 John 2:23, Acts 4:18-20).
Masonās View: There is no exclusivity in Jesus Christ or the Triune God who is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; therefore there is no doctrine of the deity of Jesus Christ. It is deemed to be un-Masonic to invoke the name of Jesus when praying, or mention His name in the Lodge. Suggesting that Jesus is the only way to God contradicts the principle of tolerance. The name of Jesus has been omitted from biblical verses that are used in Masonic rituals. Jesus is on the same level as other religious leaders.
Human Nature and Sin:
The Bibleās View: All humans are born with a sinful nature, are totally depraved, and need a Savior from sin (Romans 3:23, Romans 5:12, Psalm 51:5, Ephesians 2:1). The Bible denies that because of the Fall, humanity has within itself the capacity for moral perfection (1 John 1:8-10, Romans 1:18-25).
Masonās View: Through symbols and emblems, Masons teach that man is not sinful, just ārude and imperfect by natureā. Human beings are able to improve their character and behavior in various ways, including acts of charity, moral living, and voluntary performance of civic duty. Humanity possesses the ability of moving from imperfection toward total perfection. Moral and spiritual perfection lies within men and women.
When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing to the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:
1. That salvation can be gained by manās good works.
2. That Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.
3. That they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.
4. That they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the WorldāJesus Christ.
5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name of the Lord in vain.
6. Masonry teaches that its G.A.O.T.U. [Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is representative of all gods in all religions.
7. Masonry makes Christians take a universalist approach in their prayers, demanding a āgenericā name be used so as not to offend non-believers who are Masonic ābrothersā.
8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonryās plan of salvation to get to heaven. By their very membership in such a syncretistic type organization, they have severely compromised their witnessing as Christians.
9. By taking the Masonic obligation, the Christian is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.
As you can see, Masonry denies and contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture on numerous issues. Masonry also requires people to engage in activities which the Bible condemns. As a result, a Christian should not be a member of any secret society or organization that has any connection with Freemasonry.