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Dr. Robert Morey has one solution to the ‘alleged ‘war on terror’. HOW? Destroy the foundations of Islam!
- the city of Mecca with the stone temple of Kabah
- Medina, the burial place of Muhammad
- Dome Mosque on the Temple site in Jerusalem
While all will not say ‘Amen’ to that, it’s worthwhile to point out that Christianity has a foundation which cannot be destroyed…ever. Islam, on the other hand, depends on places and buildings for its continued existence.
From his book Winning the War Against Radical Islam “The terrorists and terrorist nations such as Saudi Arabia only fear one thing: the destruction of the religion of Islam. There is nothing in this life that has greater value to them than Islam. They are willing to sacrifice and even die to promote Islam. This religious motivation is the engine that drives the Jihad against us.
The path to Paradise, according to the Five Pillars of Islam, involves the city of Mecca and its stone temple called the Kabah. Muslims pray toward Mecca five times a day. What if Mecca didn’t exist anymore?
They must make a pilgrimage to Mecca and engage in an elaborate set of rituals centered around the Kabah once they arrive. What if Mecca and the Kabah were only blackened holes in the ground?
What if Medina, the burial place of Muhammad was wiped off the face of the planet?
What if the Dome Mosque on the Temple site in Jerusalem was blown up? The greatest weakness of Islam is that it is hopelessly tied to sacred cities and buildings. If these cities and buildings were destroyed, Islam would die within a generation as it would be apparent to all that its god could not protect the three holiest sites in Islam
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 12:07 PM]
Charles Page MANY/MOST #TRUMP supporters seems to like this type of WW3 leading “strategy” they call it Alan Timothy David Ricky Jon
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 12:08 PM]
Jimmy Humphrey some may go into madness; many will be glad but MOST Christians will not even care and keep on ignoring the signs of His Coming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_nts1Knhdw
Charles Page [12/10/2015 12:13 PM]
Trump is proposing a temporary halt to allowing Muslims to enter the US – it is not a WWIII strategy. There seems to be some validity to his proposal.
I have suggested to round up all the Muslims and send them to Cleveland, Tennessee. The building that TL Lowery is trying to sell would serve as a relocation center.
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 12:14 PM]
David M. Hinsen said we dont even know their names. How would we know if they are muslim or christians ?
Charles Page [12/10/2015 12:16 PM]
The muslims carry prayer beads and the Christians shout and speak in tongues. quiet to distinguish who is who! The Christian ladies will be wearing pants and the Muslim women wearing modest attire.
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 12:16 PM]
So as a vet Charles Page would you call back all Muslims currently serving in the US army that cannot be vetted? Steve Webb
Charles Page [12/10/2015 12:20 PM]
I raise my glass of wine (actually cup of Joe) to their distinguished service in the US Forces. God bless them all!
Charles Page [12/10/2015 12:24 PM]
Morey’s solution is as ridiculous as ISIS coming here to destroy Cleveland, Tennessee and all the Pentecostal temples. How would that change Christianity?
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 1:11 PM]
a-ha-ha Dear Lord http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-cancels-trip-to-israel-after-netanyahu-denounces-proposed-muslim-ban/
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 1:11 PM]
April Walker article/book discussed in group http://5ptsalt.com/2011/08/19/the-achilles-heel-of-islam/
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 1:29 PM]
via Henry Volk – not sure how to make this auto start every time https://www.facebook.com/henry.volk.5/posts/10206044049365141
Christopher Hart [12/10/2015 5:55 PM]
I don’t think the church should fight Islam. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal.
However, I do think America should fight back against Islamic extremism; and I also think there is some credence and expedience to banning the immigration of Muslims and people from Islamic dominated areas and countries who are NOT American citizens.
I actually think America should close the borders to ALL immigration and focus on taking care of our own problems for a while — at least until we are actually in a position to afford to bring others here.
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 6:25 PM]
WELL We’re been disrupted by hatred, violence & fear. ARE WE READY TO BE DISRUPTED BY JESUS?
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 7:53 PM]
http://www.dw.com/en/germany-wont-tolerate-sharia-police/a-17906086
John Kissinger [12/10/2015 8:25 PM]
In Britain, more Muslims join ISIS than join the British army. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428146/more-than-few-islamic-extremists?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5667aeff04d3016bf289ee1e&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 8:52 AM]
THIS Charles Page Ed Brewer David M. Hinsen Steve Webb https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/12/09/for-muslims-in-the-u-s-military-a-different-u-s-than-the-one-they-swore-to-defend/?wpisrc=nl_az_most
John Kissinger [12/11/2015 8:59 AM]
@GENRayOdierno: Can’t defeat ISIS without people on the ground” https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/674567121423089664
Charismatic Theology [12/13/2015 8:09 PM]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/anonymous-declares-war-donald-trump-6986012
Charismatic Theology [12/13/2015 8:15 PM]
Jon Ray
Interesting comment Christopher Hart Would any military opposition to Islam be considered a Catholic crusade? Ricky Grimsley John Ruffle John Conger David Lewayne Porter William DeArteaga Charles Page
Ricky Grimsley
I have talked about this idea for years. It makes a lot of sense. The problem is many muslims believe they have to pilgrimage to mecca and touch the kabba to get their sins forgiven so if you blow it up that leaves martyrdom as the other alternative. That could mean a mass radicalization. However, i definitely see the logic in saying ” hey muslims, police the crazies or we will bomb all the targets you love!”
Jon Ray
I am appalled by anyone calling debate opponents “stupid and dumb” but on the other side calling for a total annihilation take over is basically another counter-Jihad. If this is what Christianity would become in the last days, it will very closely resemble another Catholic crusade…
Ricky Grimsley
Well he wasnt saying kill all the muslims just bombing their holy sites?
Jon Ray
At least one of these holy sites is never left unoccupied – so how is this possible without innocent victims. War and Pentecostalism is needing much rethinking nowadays (as per Jim Price) most recent justice group post
Ricky Grimsley
Its a complex issue. We have to decide if we are at war and if so…who are we at war with. Personally, i feel we will do nothing. I think that soon we will see 10 kingdoms form around Turkey and a covenant confirmed.
Jon Ray
Do you mean a complete pacifistic stand?
Ricky Grimsley
Im not pacifistic but i believe America wont do anything meaningful in the war on terrorism because we are actually supporting it. Britain and America have used Islamic Extremist to destabilize the middle east and africa since before we were born. We sell both sides weapons and sell fear at home to distract from the frauds that our government perpetrates on us.
Dan Swenson
Agreed. It’s a straight fear tactic is all it is.
Varnel Watson
I believe we’ve discussed this before but here it is again William DeArteaga Ray E Horton Neil Steven Lawrence ISLAM is only ONE of WORLD’S THREE APOCALYPTIC RELIGIONS The antichrist will most likely come from the area of the old Assyrian Empire and the Muslims will accept him as their Mahdi. He will be accompanied by someone claiming to be Jesus, who acts as the false prophet and denies the gospel. It appears that events will eventually turn the world against him leading to Armageddon.
Because the coalition is Islamic. There is a possibility that they could be drawn into the conflict, espevially if they go the route that the Islamic world seems to be moving, i.e. towards a more militant and fundamentalist form of Islam. Meshech, Tubal, Togarmah and Gomer are all found in Modern day Turkey which is presently trending away from secularism and towards fundamentalism. Persia (present Iran), Lybia, Ethiopia (modern Somalia and vicinity) are also Muslim.
For all Putin’s bluster, he is apparently having a difficult time subduing the Ukraine and is presently stalemated. Not exactly a conquering powerhouse.
The antichrist will most likely come from the area of the old Assyrian Empire and the Muslims will accept him as their Mahdi. He will be accompanied by someone claiming to be Jesus, who acts as the false prophet and denies the gospel. It appears that events will eventually turn the world against him leading to Armageddon.
A mainstream Sunni Muslim website has decreed that the Islamic messiah, called the Mahdi, will appear in 2016 and that the Muslim Jesus will return in 2022 to conquer the world for Islam
Tala’l Badr (here arises the moon) is the most significant chant in Islam. Watch Erdogan sucking in the rays of being moon-Mahdi while looking like the ancient Sultans of the Ottomans:
Iran to proclaim Bashar Assad as the 12th Inman Mahdi.not alike what Ricky Grimsley has been claiming about Erdogan http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-demonic-roots-of-global-terrorism-and-how-the-christian-church-can-respond/
Ray E Horton
Interesting, but I really don’t get into all the end-times speculation.
Varnel Watson
a new pending post about this perhaps???? The 1973 War Powers Resolution is unconstitutional. It reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of how the Constitution allocated foreign affairs authority between the President and Congress. The Resolution should be repealed.
Isara Mo
Ray E Horton
Blessed is you.
Because no one knows the hour even the Son Himself I believe it is better to spend more quality time on what’s at hand than speculate..
Jamie Brown
You can’t be promoting this, can you?
Varnel Watson
my stance is in one of the comments – what is your humble opinion on such drastic approach used today?
Varnel Watson
When I saw this years ago, there was no indication of Iran’s nuclear program. However, the Iranian regime has announced they will not stop their nuclear development and have openly said if they had nuclear bombs they would use it on Israel, and even the United States. The fact is, Iran cannot be allowed to make a bomb, as this would be the greatest danger to the entire world. Late last year, I began receiving information that a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities is highly possible this year (2012). If so, then the greatest danger to the United States is a huge spike in oil prices that would impact everything from food cost, transportation costs, buses for schools and even postage and air travel. Literally everything will be impacted by the rise of the cost of oil.
Varnel Watson
Jamie Brown YOU LISTEN to it for your self and form your own opinion https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-vlog-deleted-iran-occupy-wall-street-november-16-2011
Isara Mo
Missiles can’t destroy demons only the true gospel can do that..
Varnel Watson
an election wracked with invocations of Lucifer and the approaching end times, the confusion of Donald Trump with the Antichrist is fitting. Depending on whom you ask, Satan has made himself known on both sides of the aisle. Some right-wingers — including Infowars’ Alex Jones, Ryan Zinke, a GOP Congressional candidate from Montana, and a gaggle of conservative Christian commentators — saw Hillary Clinton as their demonic archetype. Still others saw Trump and his Satan-inspired chief strategist, Steve Bannon. A Time magazine cover that inadvertently gave Trump devil horns didn’t help matters.
But while the question of whether Donald Trump is an — or even the — Antichrist may be impossible to answer, the fact that the apocalyptic figure has even made an appearance this election cycle is notable for what it says about the country as a whole. That is, these comparisons simultaneously allow their proponents to schlep whatever guilt they may feel for Trump’s rise, while also permitting them to set boundaries between themselves and the president-elect’s supporters, and the president himself.
Varnel Watson
here we go Neil Steven Lawrence pls post ALL your pages channels videos books profiles etc under this post created just for YOU my friend ; LETS talk radical islam
I just witnessed an apologetic group called Christian deleting 10 anti-Islam posts just today because they believe Chrislam is the thing of the future IT IS Chrislam is the world religion of the antiChrist
Jamie Brown
You can’t be serious
Varnel Watson
its a book – its out there – its a real thing Jamie Brown
Jamie Brown
Troy Day
Okay. Sorry for being quick to speak but I thought the book was actually being promoted.
Varnel Watson
Jamie Brown oh dear GOD I hope not But some may do indeed since it is selling well
Neil Steven Lawrence
Islam is an ideology that cannot be destroyed by tanks or bombs. We must deal with the ideology to destroy it.
Varnel Watson
HOW? Destroy the foundations of Islam!
the city of Mecca with the stone temple of Kabah
Medina, the burial place of Muhammad
Dome Mosque on the Temple site in Jerusalem
While all will not say ‘Amen’ to that, it’s worthwhile to point out that Christianity has a foundation which cannot be destroyed…ever. Islam, on the other hand, depends on places and buildings for its continued existence.
From his book Winning the War Against Radical Islam “The terrorists and terrorist nations such as Saudi Arabia only fear one thing: the destruction of the religion of Islam. There is nothing in this life that has greater value to them than Islam. They are willing to sacrifice and even die to promote Islam. This religious motivation is the engine that drives the Jihad against us.
The path to Paradise, according to the Five Pillars of Islam, involves the city of Mecca and its stone temple called the Kabah. Muslims pray toward Mecca five times a day. What if Mecca didn’t exist anymore?
They must make a pilgrimage to Mecca and engage in an elaborate set of rituals centered around the Kabah once they arrive. What if Mecca and the Kabah were only blackened holes in the ground?
What if Medina, the burial place of Muhammad was wiped off the face of the planet?
What if the Dome Mosque on the Temple site in Jerusalem was blown up? The greatest weakness of Islam is that it is hopelessly tied to sacred cities and buildings. If these cities and buildings were destroyed, Islam would die within a generation as it would be apparent to all that its god could not protect the three holiest sites in Islam
Neil Steven Lawrence
Troy Day
Mecca is already destroyed because of archaeology. The original pagan & then Islamic city was actually Petra, in Jordan, the capital of the Nabatean kingdom.
The Nabateans were the ones who originated the Arabic language.
All of the mosques built during the first 100 years of Islam we’re pointing to Petra (not the current Mecca in Saudi Arabia). This includes the Dome of the Rock built in six 91AD and the Al-Aqsa mosque on the temple mount – both are still pointing to Petra to this day!
During the Second 100 years which of all mosques around the world we’re pointing toward Petra, some toward Mecca, and some in between the two cities. (this is because of a Civil War and a dispute between Caliph leadership).
Only after a total of 200 years did all of the Qibla‘s of the mosques now point toward Mecca.
The original name for the city of Petra was Becca. It is the city were all of the Arab trade routes went through.
The so-called city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia does not appear on any maps until 930AD. This is a full 300 years after the supposed death of Muhammed.
Why is any of this important? Because it proves that there was no such thing as Mecca in Saudi Arabia, but that the Muslims have been pointing in the wrong direction for 1200 of their 1400 years!
This video explains everything. Produced by a Christian missionary Dan Gibson, who grew up in the Middle East and speaks Arabic. This information is earth shattering to Islam, if you really want to understand what I have just said you must watch this video it’s summarizes what he says in all of his books.
https://youtu.be/4DwxEEnqdvU
Anonymous
17 years ago a Roman catholic apologist wrote a book also calling for a cure based on history. — George Weigel – The Cube and the Cathedral: Europe, America, and Politics Without God——-Why do Europeans and Americans see the world so differently? Why do Europeans and Americans have such different understandings of democracy and its discontents in the twenty-first century? Contrasting the civilization that produced the starkly modernist “cube” of the Great Arch of La Defense in Paris with the civilization that produced the “cathedral” of Notre-Dame, George Weigel argues that Europe’s embrace of a narrow secularism has led to a crisis of morale that is eroding Europe’s soul and threatening its future — with dire lessons for the rest of the democratic world. Weigel traces the origins of “Europe’s problem” to the atheistic humanism of the nineteenth-century European intellectual life, which set in motion a historical process that produced two world wars, three totalitarian systems, the Gulag, Auschwitz, the Cold War — and, most ominously, the Continent’s de-population, which is worse today than during the Black Death. And yet, many Europeans still insist — most recently, during the debate over a new EU constitution — that only a public square shorn of religiously-informed moral argument is safe for human rights and democracy. Precisely the opposite, Weigel suggests, is true: the people of the “cathedral” can give a compelling account of their commitment to everyone’s freedom; the people of the “cube” cannot. Can there be any true “politics” — any true deliberation about the common good, and any robust defense of freedom — without God? George Weigel makes a powerful case that the answer is “No,” because, in the final analysis, societies are only as great as their spiritual aspirations.– It was an interesting read and an interesting solution. Link Hudson, Troy Day, Brett Dobbs and all. Have you read this? It is interesting who he ultimately blames for the woes we face today.
Anonymous
John Mushenhouse While all will not say ‘Amen’ to that, it’s worthwhile to point out that Christianity has a foundation which cannot be destroyed…ever. Islam, on the other hand, depends on places and buildings for its continued existence.
From his book Winning the War Against Radical Islam “The terrorists and terrorist nations such as Saudi Arabia only fear one thing: the destruction of the religion of Islam. There is nothing in this life that has greater value to them than Islam. They are willing to sacrifice and even die to promote Islam. This religious motivation is the engine that drives the Jihad against us.
The path to Paradise, according to the Five Pillars of Islam, involves the city of Mecca and its stone temple called the Kabah. Muslims pray toward Mecca five times a day. What if Mecca didn’t exist anymore?
They must make a pilgrimage to Mecca and engage in an elaborate set of rituals centered around the Kabah once they arrive. What if Mecca and the Kabah were only blackened holes in the ground?
What if Medina, the burial place of Muhammad was wiped off the face of the planet?
What if the Dome Mosque on the Temple site in Jerusalem was blown up? The greatest weakness of Islam is that it is hopelessly tied to sacred cities and buildings. If these cities and buildings were destroyed, Islam would die within a generation as it would be apparent to all that its god could not protect the three holiest sites in Islam
Anonymous
Troy Day I’ve watched some YouTube videos that argue that the earliest mosques were facing Petra. There was a stage where some were facing between Petra and the current location. The theory is that Islam started in Petra with the Nabataeans (Nebayoth) and that a new regime moved it to the current city of Mecca. Supposedly archeology shows no evidence of its existence in the time of Muhammad. The Al Qur’an mentions peoples, trees, etc. that do not exist down there at Mecca but do in Petra. Why would there have been so many Jewish and Christian communities down in the middle of the desert?
Anonymous
there are NO such videos Link Hudson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ft_GFJNaA
Anonymous
Troy Day https://youtu.be/uKtOmlgQS5A?si=mXHgcHj8-QzQhhYe
One example.
Anonymous
Link Hudson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSFJaFuWU0
Anonymous
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/kremlin-rejects-volodymyr-zelenskiyy-claim-that-russia-wants-to-inflame-war-in-middle-east/articleshow/104310927.cms?from=mdr
Anonymous
Does this have Scripture support?
Anonymous
here you go Neil Steven Lawrence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ft_GFJNaA
Anonymous
That’s why I’m focused on Islam is to destroy the foundation by exposing it. Islam is a political ideology more than it’s a religion. The religious part of it was manufactured from plagiarism of Christian and Jewish writings. Muhammad never actually  existed they merely created him.  it is an anti-Trinitarian Christian heresy. 
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence — I expose by sharing the light of Christianity. I believe in God’s grace drawing all and not our statements. That is, unless those statements presents the simple gospel. Evil will always be with us until the Lord returns. Therefore people need the gospel and not our views. There will just be more evil views until the Lord comes, but the gospel is the everlasting cure for evil. As Paul commanded us – Preach the word. and 2 cor 4:5 5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake. I trust in the power of the Spirit convicting and not political ideology. Read 1 Cor 2.
Anonymous
John Mushenhouse Islam is the biggest killer of Christians in world history… Did you know that? 
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence Yes did you know that Jesus is the only answer for the problem of evil. Why do you consider Jesus not sufficient. You seem to think your scholarship is greater than the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension of the son of God. Have you ever read this and if, do you understand what it is saying. Zech 4:6 ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty. — do you know this as yu are preaching yourself (your so called deep knowledge) — For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus’ sake. 1 cor 4:5 — 1 cor 2 2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the [a]testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of [b]human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing– Neil why isn’t Jesus and the bible sufficient. Why do you lean to your own knowledge? You sure lack power.
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence – I am a Pentecostal born again believer and so I believe – For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect. 1 Cor 1:17– These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 1 cor 2:13
Anonymous
John Mushenhouse I will not defend myself. If you can’t figure out who I am and what I stand for–that’s your problem. Using Apologetics to defend the faith is sorely missing in the Church in this postmodern world. Operating in the Gospel through the power of the Word and Spirit has the greatest impact on a human soul for the sake of salvation. BUT, there are times when people refuse to believe or have too many obstacles to receive the Gospel. That’s when we need to “clear the bush” (as Dr. Norm Geisler says) and use Christian apologetics to help prepare their hearts to hear the Gospel. That’s what I know the Lord is calling me to do in the second half of my ministry on earth.
Media: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=6823884827693005&set=p.6823884827693005&type=3
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence you can’t defend yourself. I realize when a person comes from a denomination that rejects education, some make more out of it when they get a little. No reason for that. THe choice is yours, but your are missing out on something very special.—Name dropping doesn’t do much for me as in my past I knew many whom we speak of.
Anonymous
John Mushenhouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSFJaFuWU0
Anonymous
Troy I read the prophets and see God uses many means to get people’s attention. I will wait and see what the Lord is doing.
Anonymous
John Mushenhouse yes indeed Neil Steven Lawrence