Demons are identified according to their nature. A
demon of hate is called “hate”. Each demon is a
specialist. A hate demon does not foster lust - he only
promotes hatred. When demons are commanded to
name themselves, they will usually name themselves in
identity with their nature, e.g. rebellion, cursing,
indifference, etc. Occasionally a demon will give a
personal name such as “Jim” or “Shirley”. At times they
will give foreign names. This is a deceptive measure to
keep the deliverance minister from knowing their true
nature. The minister should command the demons to
reveal their nature, saying, “What is your nature,
demon?”
Indwelling demons are seldom found singly; they are
together in groups. Such groupings may be referred to
as colonies, clans or families. When one demon is
detected or discerned, one should immediately be
alerted to look for its companions. A group of demons is
banded together for the purpose of controlling a
particular area of a person’s life. Therefore, there is a
very logical pattern of spirits to be found in any
particular group. Certain types of spirits are found over
and over in the same combinations; however, one must
not assume that the combination will always be the
same. THE POSSIBILITIES FOR GROUPINGS ARE
UNLIMITED.
Within each group there will be a “strong man' or
ruling spirit. Often during ministry a ruling spirit will
be specifically identified. It is not always necessary that
he be identified as a ruling spirit in order to effect the
deliverance. Such identification will usually be given
reasons. First, the Holy Spirit may be directing an order
of procedure. The deliverance minister will want to be
alert to whatever battle plan the Lord may give. There
are situations where the Lord will direct that the ruling
spirit be dealt with first and then his companions. At
other times the leading of the Lord will be to drive out
the lesser spirits first and the ruling spirit last. There
seems to be no real merit in questioning why the Lord
leads one way and then another. A good soldier is
trained to follow orders without questioning his
commander. At times he may be given great latitude in
choosing his own route of attack, and at other times his
orders are quite specific. The same is true in the battles
of spiritual warfare.
A second reason why the ruling spirit may be identified
is that it is for the benefit of the person receiving
deliverance. It can be quite helpful to know which spirit
to be on special guard against in the future. Some
spirits are especially tied in with habit patterns that
must be changed and areas of the carnal man that must
be crucified. Subsequent to deliverance the person will
have to fight some battles on his own to maintain his
deliverance. It is very helpful to know exactly what one
is fighting, and what is flesh and what is demon spirit.
From experience gained through hundreds of
deliverance sessions and in dealing with demon
groupings, I am persuaded that the ruling spirit is the
first spirit to invade a certain area. Because he is the
first to gain entrance he can establish himself as the
ruler. He then becomes the key to opening the way for
other spirits to enter. When demons are being driven
out it is not uncommon to give a command to the ruling
spirit, “Come out and bring all of your companions with
you!” or “Come out and bring all your roots!” If any
part of a group is not expelled, the way is left for the
group to be let back in. For this reason the deliverance
should be as thorough as possible.
More than one spirit of a certain type may be found
within a given group. For example, the bitterness
colony may contain several demons of resentment. Also,
a certain type of demon may be present in more than
one group. For example, a demon of anger may be found
in the bitterness clan and another anger demon in the
perfection clan. In one deliverance several groups of
spirits were cast out. In each group there was a spirit of
depression. It is only by the operation of the
supernatural gift of discernment that one can know
that all such combinations of spirits have been dealt
with.
The following list of demon groups represents patterns
experienced through actual deliverance sessions.
THESE GROUPINGS ARE ONLY SUGGESTIVE OF WHAT
MAY BE ENCOUNTERED. THE LISTING IS BY NO MEANS
INTENDED TO BE EXHAUSTIVE, NOR THE GROUPINGS
TO BE INVARIABLE. An explanation is given of some of
the groupings listed. This is to offer some insight into
the problems caused by particular groups of spirits.
Most of the groups are rather self-explanatory.
Your authors believe that the information given in this
chapter will prove to be of great practical value to those
who are moving into deliverance ministry. It will help
anyone to better understand how demons set
themselves up in groups. Years of study and experience
are condensed into a few pages.
Common Demon Groupings
1. BITTERNESS
Resentment
Hatred
Unforgiveness
Violence
Temper
Anger
Retaliation
Murder
2. REBELLION
Self-will
Stubbornness
Disobedience
Anti-submissiveness
3. STRIFE
Contention
Bickering
Argument
Quarreling
Fighting
4. CONTROL
Possessiveness
Dominance
Witchcraft
5. RETALIATION
Destruction
Spite
Hatred
Sadism
Hurt
Cruelty
6. ACCUSATION
Judging
Criticism
Faultfinding
7. REJECTION
Fear of Rejection
Self-rejection
8. INSECURITY
Inferiority
Self-Pity
Loneliness
Timidity
Shyness
Inadequacy
Ineptness
9. JEALOUSY
Envy
Suspicion
Distrust
Selfishness
10. WITHDRAWAL
Pouting
Daydreaming
Fantasy
Pretension
Unreality
11. ESCAPE
Indifference
Stoicism
Passivity
Sleepiness
Alcohol
Drugs
12 PASSIVITY
Funk
Indifference
Listlessness
Lethargy
13. DEPRESSION
Despair
Despondency
Discouragement
Defeatism
Dejection
Hopelessness
Suicide
Death
Insomnia
Morbidity
14. HEAVINESS
Gloom
Burden
Disgust
15. WORRY
Anxiety
Fear
Dread
Apprehension
16. NERVOUSNESS
Tension
Headaches
Nervous Habits
Restlessness
Excitement
Insomnia
Roving
17. SENSITIVENESS
Self-awareness
Fear of man
Fear of disapproval
18. PERSECUTION
Unfairness
Fear of judgment
Fear of condemnation
Fear of accusation
Fear of reproof
Sensitiveness
19. MENTAL ILLNESS
Insanity
Madness
Mania
Retardation
Senility
Schizophrenia
20. SCHIZOPHRENIA
(See Chapter 21)
21. PARANOIA
Jealousy
Envy
Suspicion
Distrust
Persecution
Fears
Confrontation
22. CONFUSION
Frustration
Incoherence
Forgetfulness
23. DOUBT
Unbelief
Skepticism
24. INDECISION
Procrastination
Compromise
Confusion
Forgetfulness
Indifference
254. SELF-DECEPTION
Self-delusion
Self-seduction
Pride
26. MIND-BINDING
Confusion
Fear of man
Fear of failure
Occult spirits
Spiritism spirits
27. MIND IDOLATRY
Intellectualism
Rationalization
Pride
Ego
28. FEARS (All Kinds)
Phobias (All Kinds)
Hysteria
29. FEAR OF AUTHORITY Intolerance
Lying
Deceit
30. PRIDE
Ego
Vanity
Self-righteousness
Haughtiness
Importance
Arrogance
31. AFFECTATION
Theatrics
Playacting
Sophistication
Pretension
32. COVETOUSNESS
Stealing
Kleptomania
Material Lust
Greed
Discontent
33. PERFECTION
Pride
Vanity
Ego
Frustration
Criticism
Irritability
Anger
34. COMPETITION
Driving
Argument
Pride
Ego
35. IMPATIENCE
Agitation Frustration
Intolerance
Resentment
Criticism
36. FALSE BURDEN
False responsibility
False compassion
37. GRIEF
Sorrow
Heartache
Heartbreak
Crying
Sadness
Cruel
38. FATIGUE
Tiredness
Weariness
Laziness
39. INFIRMITY
(any disease or sickness)
40. DEATH
41. INHERITANCE
(Physical)
(Emotional)
(Mental)
(Curses)
42. HYPERACTIVITY
Restlessness
Driving
Pressure
43. CURSING
Blasphemy
Course jesting
Gossip
Criticism
Backbiting
Mockery
Belittling
Railing
44. ADDICTIVE &
COMPULSIVE
Nicotine
Alcohol
Drugs
Medications
Caffeine
Gluttony
45. GLUTTONY
Nervousness
Compulsive Eating
Resentment
Frustration
Idleness
Self-pity
Self-reward
46. SELF-ACCUSATION
Self-hatred
Self-condemnation
47. GUILT
Condemnation
Shame
Unworthiness
Embarrassment
48. SEXUAL IMPURITY
Lust
Fantasy Lust
Masturbation
Homosexuality
Lesbianism
Adultery
Fornication
Incest
Harlotry
Rape
Exposure
Frigidity
49. CULTS
Jehovah’s Witness
Christian Science
Rosicrucianism
Theosophy
Urantia
Subud
Latihan
Unity
Mormonism
Bahaism
Unitarianism
(Lodges, societies &
social agencies using
the Bible & God as a
basis but omitting
the blood atonement
of Jesus Christ)
50. OCCULT
Ouija Board
Palmistry
Handwriting analysis
Automatic handwriting
ESP
Hypnotism
Horoscope
Astrology
Levitation
Fortune Telling
Water Witching
Tarot Cards
Pendulum
Witchcraft
Black Magic
White Magic
Conjuration
Incantation
Charms
Fetishes
Etc.
51. RELIGIOUS
Ritualism
Formalism
Doctrinal obsession
Seduction
Doctrinal error
Fear of God
Fear of Hell
Fear of lost salvation
Religiosity
Etc.
52. SPIRITISM
Seance
Spirit guides
Necromancy
Etc.
53. FALSE RELIGIONS
Buddhism
Taoism
Hinduism
Islam
Shintoism
Confucianism
Etc.
Bitterness
In Hebrews 12:15 a warning is sounded: “lest any root
of bitterness springing up TROUBLE you, and thereby
many be defiled.” The root of bitterness is responsible
for much “trouble”. Bitterness harbored in the heart for
any length of time will open the door for demon
invasion. This is probably the most common opening
for demon activity. In the majority of cases the
bitterness is towards someone within the immediate
family.
Bitterness spirits keep alive hurtful incidents. Things
that happened years ago are as fresh and alive in the
memory as if they had only happened today. Thus, the
person not only copes with current problems but is
ever faced with the backlog of hurts. The spirit of
unforgiveness keeps alive every detail of the hurts;
reviews them continuously in the person’s mind. The
most trivial hurt is neither forgiven nor forgotten.
Whenever the attitude of bitterness is found, one may
expect to find the demons of bitterness, resentment and
hatred. In some instances the chain of spirits goes on to
include other or all of the spirits in the grouping.
Rebellion
Rebellion is the spirit of antichrist - of disobedience and
disrespect for authority. God has established authority
in the home, church and civil government. God Himself
is our supreme authority. To assert self- will above any
level of authority in God’s divine order is to entertain
demons of rebellion. To keep delivered in this area
necessitates complete submission to all God constituted
authority
Control
Control spirits are found in such cases as: (1) A parent
showing unnatural control over a grown child, (2)
husband or wife domineering over the other, (3) a
pastor being a dictator rather than a shepherd, (4) a
member of a prayer group controlling the group or
others in the group. The methods of control may
involve false visions, revelations; prophecies and the
like. Such control amounts to witchcraft seeking to
control another person (getting him to do what you
want him to do) by knowingly or unknowingly
employing the power of an evil spirit.
The deliverance minister must also be prepared to
minister to the victims of control spirits. Have the
dominated person renounce all demonic control,
declare his release from the bondage on the basis of
liberty in Christ Jesus, and adamantly refuse any
further control. The freed person must learn to exercise
his own will and make his own decisions. He may
require personal deliverance from spirits of insecurity,
inferiority and fear. Too, spirits of condemnation may
try to persuade him that he is hurting the other person
to whom he has had such a close attachment. He may
need help in being able to separate the person from the
demons in the person. When this is accomplished he
can love the person but hate the demons that seek to
control him.
Retaliation
This group usually stems out of the root of bitterness.
These spirits advocate returning evil for evil. An
interesting manifestation has been observed when
young children were being delivered of this type of
spirit. When a parent was holding the child during the
deliverance we have seen the child pinch, bite or hit the
parent. The disposition of the child would change
instantly once the demons were out. Adults are more
likely to retaliate through spiteful acts or words.
Rejection
The door for the spirit of rejection to enter is most
frequently opened during childhood, and even while a
baby is still in its mother’s womb. When a child is
unwanted, the fetus is opened for the entrance of a
demon of rejection. I find that some persons are
definitely repelled by such a suggestion. They think it
terribly unfair that such a thing be possible. We must
remember the devil is no gentleman, and he is not
regulated by rules of fair sportsmanship. Rather, he is
extremely evil and does not hesitate for a moment to
take full advantage of a situation which will foster his
evil purposes. Satan delights in finding an Achilles heel
for a target, choosing the weakest moments in life to
attack. When is a person most defenseless? Before he is
given birth and during infancy.
It is said of John the Baptist before he was born, “He
shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his
mother’s womb” (Luke 1:15b). Since the Holy Spirit
entered John the Baptist before birth, we need not
doubt the ability of a demon spirit to enter a person
before birth.
An unwed mother came to me for ministry. Because of
the circumstances of the baby’s conception, she
admitted that she did not want the child and had
considered abortion. At the time of the ministry she
was in her eighth month of pregnancy. Several demons
were cast out of the fetus, including the spirit of
rejection. As these spirits were challenged, the
expectant mother experienced sharp pains in the
womb area of her body. These pains completely
disappeared as the demons came out through the
mother’s mouth.
The deliverance minister will do well to question all
who come for ministry as to the possibility of rejection.
It is extremely common and often very strong. Most
children who have been adopted will have spirits of
rejection. The very circumstances that necessitated the
child’s adoption will have provided an opening for
spirits of rejection to gain entrance.
Rejection will usually become a three-headed monster.
In addition to the basic spirit of rejection there will be a
fear-of rejection spirit and a self-rejection spirit. The
presence of these demons is readily evidenced through
a person’s inability to receive love or to give love to
others. Because he has been rejected he becomes
fearful of close relationships through which he could
experience further hurt. He is afraid to accept the love
of others and holds himself aloof. The way is opened for
fear-of-rejection.
Self-rejection comes along to add to the torment. The
person who feels that he is rejected by others will
decide there is something wrong with himself that
makes others not like him. He turns his thoughts
inward and begins to hate himself for what he is. This is
self-rejection.
Indecision
These are mental spirits. They are quite common. A
person should normally be able to weigh the factors
involved and reach a decision, but these spirits can
torment a person over making the smallest decision.
Every decision looms as a major crisis. When he cannot
decide he postpones. Indecision has led to
procrastination, The longer he weighs a matter the
more confused he becomes. In desperation or
frustration he compromises his decision and settles for
less than best. Or he may escape the responsibility of
making a decision by forgetting.
In some cases procrastination precedes indecision and
is the leading spirit. The clue to a procrastination spirit
in a child is when the child is heard to say often, “In a
minute.” For example, a mother tells her child to clean
up his room. The child replies, “In a minute, Mother.”
He really intends to be obedient but the spirit of forget¬
fulness pulls it out of his mind. When he is reminded he
will explain, “Oh, I forgot.” The mother must then
exercise authority. When such a situation arises
repeatedly the child may become stubborn and
rebellious.
Self-Deception
“The deceived and the deceiver are his” (Job 12:16). The
Lord gave us this verse during a ministry to identify a
deep problem in Mr. P. For more than twenty years he
had been self-deceived in believing that he was on the
verge of a great spiritual revelation concerning the
Trinity He believed this revelation would astound the
entire Christian world. He demonstrated to us how he
believed the revelation would come. He carefully folded
a sheet of paper several ways and tore small pieces out
of it. As each piece of paper was unfolded it was seen to
be a symbol or letter. He believed that one day he
would be able to tear and interpret Spirit-inspired
symbols that would reveal once and for all the mystery
of the Godhead. Self-delusion, self -seduction and pride
(companion spirits) convinced him that he, an
unknown, would become world renowned.
His whole problem had grown out of rejection. His
father, a minister, had rejected him from childhood. In
an attempt to receive his father’s approval and love he
was opened to spirits of delusion which convinced him
not only that he would become famous but that his
fame would come through a spiritual revelation which
would win the admiration of his father.
Renunciation of the delusion was not easy for Mr. P. He
had great fear that he would be failing God. In such
cases of self-deception the person must be confronted
with the error, and the delusion must be renounced.
When a person falls out of agreement with the lies of
the demons he is able to retain his deliverance.
Perfection
There is a place for organization, orderliness and a job
well done. The perfection demon makes a bondage out
of these attributes. For example, a person has planned
his day. He has decided all that he will do and fit it into
a schedule. He binds himself to that schedule. He leaves
no room for variation. It is a perfect plan. He is proud
that he is able to plan and perform so well. Then
something or someone interferes with that plan. He
grows irritable. Now he is not able to complete his
schedule.
He cannot adjust to the interruption. Frustration sets
in. Anger rises against the person or thing that has
broken his plan. Thus, a whole set of demons is set in
motion. The conflict is both inward and outward.
Rejection is often behind perfection. The rejected
person strives for perfection in an effort to earn respect
and acceptance. In other instances perfection is a
compensation for inferiority.
False Burden
The devil delights in wearing out the saints. The devil,
unlike God, will put more upon God’s children than
they are able to bear. Jesus declared that His yoke is
easy and His burden light. A false burden is heavy to
bear and is usually self-assumed. Even a pious burden
for souls may be satanically imposed. God has a time
and a way as well as a purpose. Flowing with the Spirit
takes out all the strain. Many believers need
deliverance from false burdens, responsibilities and
compassions - those that are not from God.
Religious Error
Religious error is a broad designation embracing false
religions, Christian cults, occult practices and false
doctrines. Involvement with any of these sources of
error can open the door for evil spirits. The association
or contact need not be extensive.
Any Christian who has had involvement with any kind
of religious error should renounce it. In most cases
deliverance is needed to free him of oppression. These
religious error demons have been found to cause:
mental confusion, binding of the mind, dullness of
comprehension, depression, fears, physical pains,
physical illnesses, false pride, unteachableness,
resistance to Biblical truth and spiritual hindrances (to
prayer, Bible reading, sermon listening, gifts of the
Spirit and faith).
Troy Day
Nevertheless brother Troy I think Jezebel has now taken more time than any other…in.our discussions and lest we are manipulated by her to give her glory without knowing, lets put her in a bottle and seal it and forget her and revert to the WORD OF GOD …
How is the ‘Jezebel spirit’ idea consistent with the article linked in the OP or some of the other demon-related or spirit-related articles that have been posted in recent threads? The OP argues that demons align with very specific attributes, e.g. such as hate, rejection, etc. Each negative trait is associated with a specific theory. This is along the lines of what I wrote about ‘abstract animism.’
If each trait lines up with one demon, what about the so-called ‘Jezebel spirit’. Jesus referred to that woman Jezebel who called herself a prophetess. (He did not say ‘Jezebel spirit.’) She was involved in leading God’s people to fornicate and eat meat offered to idols– two elements of Canaanite religion like the Baal, etc. worship that Jezebel was promoting. Jesus did not mention domineering her husband, a king, killing prophets, etc. in this passage. There are those who write books and articles about ‘the Jezebel spirit’ who list several negative characteristics that resemble Jezebel in some way, and say those are symptoms of ‘the Jezebel spirit.’
But if trying to get people to eat meat offered to idols is done by just one spirit, and promoting fornication is the sole and exclusive job of the spirit of lust, and if domineering the husband is the work of just one kind of spirit, and making people want to kill prophets is the sole work of just one kind of spirit, how could all this get clustered under ‘the Jezebel spirit.
I saw another post with several characteristics of the so-called ‘religious spirit’– one supposed spirit that manifests in lots of different ways, not a large number of spirits.
These demonology theories seem a bit inconsistent with one another.
If the gods of the nations are demons, do the demons line up at all with the characteristics of the mythologies of these gods? Baal was more than a serpent-smoting spirit, I suppose, though he was supposed to have defeated Lotan (Canaanite cognate for Leviathan) in their mythology.
I am not saying the author of this post cannot have genuine experiences that he is speaking from. I am not an excorcism specialist with very detailed experiences. I have some experience with this sort of thing. But I haven’t sat around commanding spirits to tell me their names and who they are associated with. I am weary of that sort of thing since demons can lie, obviously. Jesus did ask one demoniac what his name was. But what if there are excorcists out there picking up bad demonology from demons and spreading the doctrine they got from demons among others in the body of Christ? A Rebecca Brown trilogy comes to mind as a book that presents some rather wonky-sounding doctrines that seem to have come from talking with an alleged demonized witch.
I do not recall this article actually stating it, but does the author think that all hate or all lust is caused by a spirit or is a spirit? Is every negative characteristic or sinful attitude an actual demon? Where is there room for the flesh to have a negative impact then? Is casting out demons a cure-all for spiritual and emotional problems, or is there a role for overcoming the flesh?
This type of thinking also seems to line up with the type of thinking among some Charismatics that Christians need deliverance from demons, too. If you think all unforgiveness, all lust, etc. is a demon, then you think the Christian who falls in one of these areas is demonized and needs ‘deliverance’ in the sense of a demon cast out of him/her. That is not standard Pentecostal demonology..certainly not A/G demonology,, Troy Day, but some Charismatics see it that way.
It is a stretch to say that the Bible teaches all these characteristics are demons. Wouldn’t we expect to see Jesus and the apostles casting out more demons if every negative attitude were a demon? Do we ever see Jesus commanding demons of unbelief out of all the Pharisees? Did Paul do such a thing? There are some specialty demons, apparently. Some demons do divination, and there are familiar spirits. But we don’t know for sure that all demons are not able to be these spirits when in a host who wants them to do so. A lot of our ideas about the spirit world may be assumptions.
There is also the danger of creating a body of doctrine that does not come from the Bible. For example, the idea that there is a Jezebel spirit that is some kind of demon or principality is not in the Bible.
I am not saying that the Holy Spirit, through a word of knowledge or gift of discernment, could not reveal to someone that there is a spirit with the characteristics of Jezebel at work. We need to judge this like we would a prophecy. But I am very wary of turning this into a doctrine. Someone reads and hears about the ‘Jezebel spirit’ from preachers who did not discover about this spirit by supernatural means themselves. They take the idea that there is a ‘Jezebel spirit’ from other preachers, then add some Bible verses to it, even though there is no way to get the existence of a demon called a ‘Jezebel spirit’ from any text of scripture.
There is so much rich doctrine in the Bible, so much for edification that is actually in there. If a preacher isn’t getting knowledge about the spirit-realm himself, why would he want second or third-hand revelation that isn’t backed up by the Bible? Isn’t that how Charismatic doctrine starts to drift off into weirdness?
The Table Talk/Joni show said the Jezebel spirit is a spirit of manipulation, control, envy, lust and greed. That contradicts the idea that all spirits are ‘pure-play’– one spirit for lust, one spirit for control, etc.
Link Hudson I am copying the comment by Albert in case you cant see it on your screen for whatever reason
Hello Hudson, Hope you are are well.
Those are the right questions here is some information to help answer those questions mostly likely if you are reading blogs like this you have been in a battle or two I will also include a link from two other preachers, as the mistake I made was when first began to deal with this where I did not come in Love and Grace when dealing with the people who where being controlled by it, also from what I have experienced it is a spirit but it works closely with witchcraft and other spirits, so it is more likely a battle strategy hope this helps, here some links but remember perfect love cast out all fear .
John Paul Jackson unmasking the jezebel spirit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fQWxpkWtGFg
Bob Goff Show the love of Jesus it will blow you away! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTzZiU6_S4
Also please google Jospeh Prince he has a lot of teaching on Grace !
What is the jezebel spirit bible verses: https://www.gotquestions.org/Jezebel-spirit.html
I know that it is not very clear from what’s out there but this helped me to get a better understanding as well as how stand against such attacks in my experience it is a series of very well planned attacks from the enemy to in short derail us from following Jesus so basically what it says in John 10:10.
But my suggestion to you is keep praying for The Holy Spirit to make it clear.
Be blessed
ARM
Joe Absher
When I read and re read Rev 17 and look at the global spritual map I have no qualms that there is a very powerful evil spirit behind all..
One of the seven angels said “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”
Revelation 17:1-2 NIV//
The verse show evil global effect from kings to inhabitants..
It doesn’t say “Jezebel” directly but the description fits her correctly.
In Nahum 3: 4 the verse speaks of the ” mistress of sorceries…who enslaves NATIONS by her witchcraft..
In Isaiah 47, the hallmarks of Jezebel are there, ..Babylon and witchcraft..
Spirit do no die you know although systems may pass away: the same Babylonians spirits are just having a hey day as of old..with different names.
At the end of the age Babylon is still in Gods sight…years and years after the civilisation was gone …if it is not an evil spirit what is it Joe?
Witchraft and immorality is like hand and glove with Jezebel…as well as teaching and idolatry…
Larson has her ID spot on….
Those who dont believe there is a Jezebel spirit let them.do but for me, I received it from a higher source and saw her …more vicious than any wild animal I know….
The equal dangers of course are men that abuse women and authority. They will use Jezebel teaching or that betrayer Judas as a whipping boy to cover their own failures.
Isn’t the myth that Lilith was Adam’s first wife, wanted to been in the female superior position, was rejected do Eve was made second? I do not se how that is Biblical? Is it an esoteric interpretation of a triliteral root or just pure legend?
Later Lilith was believed to be a spirit that killed babies. Some Jews made magic bowls to ward it and other spirits off.
Seems similar to me to Jezebel– a spirit not mentioned in scripture around which a set of extrabiblical doctrined developed. But Jezebel was a real person and the doctrines about the Jezebel spirit are tied loosely to scripture based on the assumption that one ‘spirit’ or type if spirit is behind a set of characteristics.
Isara Mo Joe Absher did you see the links in the comment ALBERT left for Link Hudson It resonates what Chad Macdonald has published about Jezebel spirits taking over America
I saw it. No time to see the links yet. I have hardly had time to glance at Facebook for the past week or so. It’s hard to find these threads once they’ve passed.
Troy Day well my wife just had a miscarriage and I have been bust. But I think Jews may have blamed that on Lilith, who also started as a woman in their lore and was later considered an evil spirit, kind if like He ebel with Charismatics since the late 80s.
When you hear ‘spirit of religion’ or ‘religious spirit’ do you think that means a demon or a set of characteristics only? What about a ‘Jezebel spirit’? Do you think that is an actual demon or principality, or just a set of characteristics.
think of all of the passages that could be stretched to try to teach this stuff.
The most obvious — perhaps because of Jentezen Franklin’s sermon on the topic — is the “spirit of python” in Acts 16:16. Of course the Bible never says anything about a spirit of python, it calls it a spirit of divination. But the Greek word for divination is “pythōna” which is where this teaching comes from. Of course, sound exegesis and teaching reveals that Paul is using this word to associate the spirit with region of Pytho and more specifically the oracle of Delphi.
Associating this spirit with demonic oracle-like activity makes sense in light of what the slave girl in Acts 16 was doing. Franklin’s twisting of this passage to make this spirit one that “squeezes” the life, joy, and goodness out of believers
The other that jumps to mind is the reference to Jezebel in Revelation 2:20. Clearly there are some similarities between this woman in the Thyatiran church and Ahab’s wife, so it makes sense that the writer (and the Lord!) would use the reference. Sound exegesis seems to clearly indicate that Christ is referring to a specific, living individual in the church demonstrating and expressing a demon who is animating or inspiring one or more individuals.
This seems evident based on Christ’s description of having given her time to repent, and His promise to judge and punish her for not having done so (v. 21-23). It’s possible that ‘Jezebel’ here is literally her name, but it’s hard to imagine anyone naming their daughter Jezebel so a demon remains the only sound exegetical explanation Jesus said that that woman Jezebel taught the people to fornicate and to eat meat offered to idols, that might be the similarity with the ancient Jezebel.
Those were aspects of Canaanite religion. Revelation 2 does mention her controlling the pastor-angel or killing the real prophets with her false prophecy and manipulation. This reference has to be spiritual in Revelation and her expressing a ‘spirit.’
It kind of reminds me of Lilith, a woman from a legend about Adam’s first wife before Eve who was rejected because she wanted to be on top. Later Lilith was thought to be an evil spirit that killed babies.
Do we suppose that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about demons? No. But it does tell us all we NEED to know (namely, that they have to go in the Name of Jesus, etc.). For instance, wouldn’t you like to know more about why the demons wanted to go into the swine? What we have is mainly conjecture.
Wouldn’t you like to know where demons come from? Some say they are fallen angels, etc. But to the best of my knowledge, that it nothing but conjecture, too.
However, when someone speaks of a “Jezebel spirit,” I do not take this to be a particular DEMON, but rather a set of behaviors that can enable us to be more watchful with people exhibiting those behaviors. Just as the FBI has profilers that can tell us the traits of certain serial killers (believe it or not, cruelty to animals, bed-wetting, and fire starting are three things that show up in many or most serial killer profiles!), we would be foolish to ignore behaviors that often reveal darker things.
The same with the “Jezebel spirit.” Like I said, I have never considered that a particular demon, but rather someone who is acting in a way that we believe Jezebel acted. Just as we can see people that are controlling, or insecure, or narcissistic–and can divine from that certain elements that we would be wise to regard in the future with other people/situations–so, too, can we see both negative and positive traits in Biblical characters and draw some conclusions.
tell us HOW This is not Biblical Pentecostal Theology TerryandNita Wiles Peter Vandever Link Hudson Philip Williams are you emerging from the popular NAR view on the subject Paul L. King has shown strategic prayer grouping before NAR and Isara Mo Bruce Gordon William DeArteaga RW Deese may disagree with yall on this one
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Varnel Watson
there you go Isara Mo Shane Brown Joe Absher BTW Link Hudson did you see this comment left for you? http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ex-warlock-take-on-jezebel/#comment-81027
Varnel Watson
Isara Mo tap here to read the jezebel comment – very extensive http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/ex-warlock-take-on-jezebel/?fbclid=IwAR3v1dLbyq89D_mJWo9-aNgd3NM_u-YXmL8IIotbGZw7VWMCbwX8h7qkpn4#comment-81027
Isara Mo
Troy Day
I have listened more than two times the Joni round table talk on Unmasking Jezebel…
I think John Paul Jackson covered the sub well..
Isara Mo
Troy Day
Nevertheless brother Troy I think Jezebel has now taken more time than any other…in.our discussions and lest we are manipulated by her to give her glory without knowing, lets put her in a bottle and seal it and forget her and revert to the WORD OF GOD …
Link Hudson
How is the ‘Jezebel spirit’ idea consistent with the article linked in the OP or some of the other demon-related or spirit-related articles that have been posted in recent threads? The OP argues that demons align with very specific attributes, e.g. such as hate, rejection, etc. Each negative trait is associated with a specific theory. This is along the lines of what I wrote about ‘abstract animism.’
If each trait lines up with one demon, what about the so-called ‘Jezebel spirit’. Jesus referred to that woman Jezebel who called herself a prophetess. (He did not say ‘Jezebel spirit.’) She was involved in leading God’s people to fornicate and eat meat offered to idols– two elements of Canaanite religion like the Baal, etc. worship that Jezebel was promoting. Jesus did not mention domineering her husband, a king, killing prophets, etc. in this passage. There are those who write books and articles about ‘the Jezebel spirit’ who list several negative characteristics that resemble Jezebel in some way, and say those are symptoms of ‘the Jezebel spirit.’
But if trying to get people to eat meat offered to idols is done by just one spirit, and promoting fornication is the sole and exclusive job of the spirit of lust, and if domineering the husband is the work of just one kind of spirit, and making people want to kill prophets is the sole work of just one kind of spirit, how could all this get clustered under ‘the Jezebel spirit.
I saw another post with several characteristics of the so-called ‘religious spirit’– one supposed spirit that manifests in lots of different ways, not a large number of spirits.
These demonology theories seem a bit inconsistent with one another.
If the gods of the nations are demons, do the demons line up at all with the characteristics of the mythologies of these gods? Baal was more than a serpent-smoting spirit, I suppose, though he was supposed to have defeated Lotan (Canaanite cognate for Leviathan) in their mythology.
I am not saying the author of this post cannot have genuine experiences that he is speaking from. I am not an excorcism specialist with very detailed experiences. I have some experience with this sort of thing. But I haven’t sat around commanding spirits to tell me their names and who they are associated with. I am weary of that sort of thing since demons can lie, obviously. Jesus did ask one demoniac what his name was. But what if there are excorcists out there picking up bad demonology from demons and spreading the doctrine they got from demons among others in the body of Christ? A Rebecca Brown trilogy comes to mind as a book that presents some rather wonky-sounding doctrines that seem to have come from talking with an alleged demonized witch.
I do not recall this article actually stating it, but does the author think that all hate or all lust is caused by a spirit or is a spirit? Is every negative characteristic or sinful attitude an actual demon? Where is there room for the flesh to have a negative impact then? Is casting out demons a cure-all for spiritual and emotional problems, or is there a role for overcoming the flesh?
This type of thinking also seems to line up with the type of thinking among some Charismatics that Christians need deliverance from demons, too. If you think all unforgiveness, all lust, etc. is a demon, then you think the Christian who falls in one of these areas is demonized and needs ‘deliverance’ in the sense of a demon cast out of him/her. That is not standard Pentecostal demonology..certainly not A/G demonology,, Troy Day, but some Charismatics see it that way.
It is a stretch to say that the Bible teaches all these characteristics are demons. Wouldn’t we expect to see Jesus and the apostles casting out more demons if every negative attitude were a demon? Do we ever see Jesus commanding demons of unbelief out of all the Pharisees? Did Paul do such a thing? There are some specialty demons, apparently. Some demons do divination, and there are familiar spirits. But we don’t know for sure that all demons are not able to be these spirits when in a host who wants them to do so. A lot of our ideas about the spirit world may be assumptions.
There is also the danger of creating a body of doctrine that does not come from the Bible. For example, the idea that there is a Jezebel spirit that is some kind of demon or principality is not in the Bible.
I am not saying that the Holy Spirit, through a word of knowledge or gift of discernment, could not reveal to someone that there is a spirit with the characteristics of Jezebel at work. We need to judge this like we would a prophecy. But I am very wary of turning this into a doctrine. Someone reads and hears about the ‘Jezebel spirit’ from preachers who did not discover about this spirit by supernatural means themselves. They take the idea that there is a ‘Jezebel spirit’ from other preachers, then add some Bible verses to it, even though there is no way to get the existence of a demon called a ‘Jezebel spirit’ from any text of scripture.
There is so much rich doctrine in the Bible, so much for edification that is actually in there. If a preacher isn’t getting knowledge about the spirit-realm himself, why would he want second or third-hand revelation that isn’t backed up by the Bible? Isn’t that how Charismatic doctrine starts to drift off into weirdness?
Link Hudson
The Table Talk/Joni show said the Jezebel spirit is a spirit of manipulation, control, envy, lust and greed. That contradicts the idea that all spirits are ‘pure-play’– one spirit for lust, one spirit for control, etc.
Varnel Watson
Link Hudson I am copying the comment by Albert in case you cant see it on your screen for whatever reason
Hello Hudson, Hope you are are well.
Those are the right questions here is some information to help answer those questions mostly likely if you are reading blogs like this you have been in a battle or two I will also include a link from two other preachers, as the mistake I made was when first began to deal with this where I did not come in Love and Grace when dealing with the people who where being controlled by it, also from what I have experienced it is a spirit but it works closely with witchcraft and other spirits, so it is more likely a battle strategy hope this helps, here some links but remember perfect love cast out all fear .
John Paul Jackson unmasking the jezebel spirit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fQWxpkWtGFg
Bob Goff Show the love of Jesus it will blow you away!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTzZiU6_S4
Also please google Jospeh Prince he has a lot of teaching on Grace !
What is the jezebel spirit bible verses:
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jezebel-spirit.html
I know that it is not very clear from what’s out there but this helped me to get a better understanding as well as how stand against such attacks in my experience it is a series of very well planned attacks from the enemy to in short derail us from following Jesus so basically what it says in John 10:10.
But my suggestion to you is keep praying for The Holy Spirit to make it clear.
Be blessed
ARM
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Joe Absher
This just in…
“The spirit of this age”
https://youtu.be/kdh0DZTsyC4
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
Larson has named her(it) right:”The spirit of this age”…
Joe Absher
He lists, witchcraft, sexual immortality, idolatry. Seems pretty accurate to me?
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
Very accurate Joe.
Isara Mo
Joe Absher
When I read and re read Rev 17 and look at the global spritual map I have no qualms that there is a very powerful evil spirit behind all..
One of the seven angels said “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”
Revelation 17:1-2 NIV//
The verse show evil global effect from kings to inhabitants..
It doesn’t say “Jezebel” directly but the description fits her correctly.
In Nahum 3: 4 the verse speaks of the ” mistress of sorceries…who enslaves NATIONS by her witchcraft..
In Isaiah 47, the hallmarks of Jezebel are there, ..Babylon and witchcraft..
Spirit do no die you know although systems may pass away: the same Babylonians spirits are just having a hey day as of old..with different names.
At the end of the age Babylon is still in Gods sight…years and years after the civilisation was gone …if it is not an evil spirit what is it Joe?
Witchraft and immorality is like hand and glove with Jezebel…as well as teaching and idolatry…
Larson has her ID spot on….
Those who dont believe there is a Jezebel spirit let them.do but for me, I received it from a higher source and saw her …more vicious than any wild animal I know….
Joe Absher
The equal dangers of course are men that abuse women and authority. They will use Jezebel teaching or that betrayer Judas as a whipping boy to cover their own failures.
Link Hudson
That just seems weird to me. Why would the mother of harlots be Jezebel? Isn’t that reading a 30 year old pop Charismatic doctrine back intoscripture?
Link Hudson
Isn’t the myth that Lilith was Adam’s first wife, wanted to been in the female superior position, was rejected do Eve was made second? I do not se how that is Biblical? Is it an esoteric interpretation of a triliteral root or just pure legend?
Later Lilith was believed to be a spirit that killed babies. Some Jews made magic bowls to ward it and other spirits off.
Seems similar to me to Jezebel– a spirit not mentioned in scripture around which a set of extrabiblical doctrined developed. But Jezebel was a real person and the doctrines about the Jezebel spirit are tied loosely to scripture based on the assumption that one ‘spirit’ or type if spirit is behind a set of characteristics.
Why woul
Varnel Watson
Isara Mo Joe Absher did you see the links in the comment ALBERT left for Link Hudson It resonates what Chad Macdonald has published about Jezebel spirits taking over America
Link Hudson
I saw it. No time to see the links yet. I have hardly had time to glance at Facebook for the past week or so. It’s hard to find these threads once they’ve passed.
Varnel Watson
YES Link Hudson jezebel spirits would do exactly that with your free time Just ask Isara Mo Chad Macdonald
Link Hudson
Troy Day well my wife just had a miscarriage and I have been bust. But I think Jews may have blamed that on Lilith, who also started as a woman in their lore and was later considered an evil spirit, kind if like He ebel with Charismatics since the late 80s.
Varnel Watson
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/jewish-demonology/
Daniel J Hesse
R u sure?
Varnel Watson
pretty sure
Varnel Watson
When you hear ‘spirit of religion’ or ‘religious spirit’ do you think that means a demon or a set of characteristics only? What about a ‘Jezebel spirit’? Do you think that is an actual demon or principality, or just a set of characteristics.
think of all of the passages that could be stretched to try to teach this stuff.
The most obvious — perhaps because of Jentezen Franklin’s sermon on the topic — is the “spirit of python” in Acts 16:16. Of course the Bible never says anything about a spirit of python, it calls it a spirit of divination. But the Greek word for divination is “pythōna” which is where this teaching comes from. Of course, sound exegesis and teaching reveals that Paul is using this word to associate the spirit with region of Pytho and more specifically the oracle of Delphi.
Associating this spirit with demonic oracle-like activity makes sense in light of what the slave girl in Acts 16 was doing. Franklin’s twisting of this passage to make this spirit one that “squeezes” the life, joy, and goodness out of believers
The other that jumps to mind is the reference to Jezebel in Revelation 2:20. Clearly there are some similarities between this woman in the Thyatiran church and Ahab’s wife, so it makes sense that the writer (and the Lord!) would use the reference. Sound exegesis seems to clearly indicate that Christ is referring to a specific, living individual in the church demonstrating and expressing a demon who is animating or inspiring one or more individuals.
This seems evident based on Christ’s description of having given her time to repent, and His promise to judge and punish her for not having done so (v. 21-23). It’s possible that ‘Jezebel’ here is literally her name, but it’s hard to imagine anyone naming their daughter Jezebel so a demon remains the only sound exegetical explanation Jesus said that that woman Jezebel taught the people to fornicate and to eat meat offered to idols, that might be the similarity with the ancient Jezebel.
Those were aspects of Canaanite religion. Revelation 2 does mention her controlling the pastor-angel or killing the real prophets with her false prophecy and manipulation. This reference has to be spiritual in Revelation and her expressing a ‘spirit.’
It kind of reminds me of Lilith, a woman from a legend about Adam’s first wife before Eve who was rejected because she wanted to be on top. Later Lilith was thought to be an evil spirit that killed babies.
Do we suppose that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about demons? No. But it does tell us all we NEED to know (namely, that they have to go in the Name of Jesus, etc.). For instance, wouldn’t you like to know more about why the demons wanted to go into the swine? What we have is mainly conjecture.
Wouldn’t you like to know where demons come from? Some say they are fallen angels, etc. But to the best of my knowledge, that it nothing but conjecture, too.
However, when someone speaks of a “Jezebel spirit,” I do not take this to be a particular DEMON, but rather a set of behaviors that can enable us to be more watchful with people exhibiting those behaviors. Just as the FBI has profilers that can tell us the traits of certain serial killers (believe it or not, cruelty to animals, bed-wetting, and fire starting are three things that show up in many or most serial killer profiles!), we would be foolish to ignore behaviors that often reveal darker things.
The same with the “Jezebel spirit.” Like I said, I have never considered that a particular demon, but rather someone who is acting in a way that we believe Jezebel acted. Just as we can see people that are controlling, or insecure, or narcissistic–and can divine from that certain elements that we would be wise to regard in the future with other people/situations–so, too, can we see both negative and positive traits in Biblical characters and draw some conclusions.
Anonymous
Let God arise and His enemy’s be scattered! This is not Biblical Pentecostal Theology.
Troy Day
tell us HOW This is not Biblical Pentecostal Theology TerryandNita Wiles Peter Vandever Link Hudson Philip Williams are you emerging from the popular NAR view on the subject Paul L. King has shown strategic prayer grouping before NAR and Isara Mo Bruce Gordon William DeArteaga RW Deese may disagree with yall on this one
Bruce Gordon
This looks good to me, who is the author?