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I can give you AT LEAST 8:
WHY AM I NOT A CALVINIST?
REASON #1 Free will is not humanistic. It’s the Bible.
REASON #2 Jesus gave us the Great Commission?
REASON #3 Why reaching the lost if they were predestined to be lost?
REASON #4 God so loved the world!
REASON #5 People backslide by their own choices and free will
REASON #6 Grace is Resistible and many have fallen from grace
REASON #7 I am yet to meet a Christian saved NOT by his/her own personal free will choice!
REASON #8 God’s choice not to act graciously toward others
ALSO: Calvinism Critiqued by a Former Calvinist
THE real issue with Calvinism is the Limited Atonement part of TULIP
Predestination Salvation and Eternal Security are the foundation doctrines of Calvinism.
Please provide Scriptural Proof that these Doctrines are wrong.
Anonymous
I can give @everyone at least 8 such reasons against #calvinism
REASON #1 Free will is not humanistic. It’s the Bible.
REASON #2 Jesus gave us the Great Commission?
REASON #3 Why reaching the lost if they were predestined to be lost?
REASON #4 God so loved the world!
REASON #5 People backslide by their own choices and free will
REASON #6 Grace is Resistible and many have fallen from grace
REASON #7 I am yet to meet a Christian saved NOT by his/her own personal free will choice!
REASON #8 God’s choice not to act graciously toward others
ALSO: Calvinism Critiqued by a Former Calvinist
oops they turn into 9 so hereS #10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HupjRxBw-So
Anonymous
Troy Day #3 is practical & even filled with common sense, which isn’t so common anymore.
Anonymous
Carmen Isaac SO THEN #3 Why reaching the lost if they were predestined to be lost?
Anonymous
A neo-mystic has recently come out for universalism. It’s shocking, & he says that #3, in particular, is offensive to him when
they bring it up as a counter-argument.
Anonymous
Troy Day I am a Christian Universalist. I believe in the Spirit of truth calling people for salvation not the non biblical phrase freewill or choice when it comes to salvation.
Anonymous
George Banagis You are the ONLY calvinist Universalist I know beside pro-Catholic Philip Williams who Duane L Burgess largely opposes
Anonymous
Troy Day Calvinism is another form of Hinduism. Essential everything bad or good is God, the Brahma.
Anonymous
Troy Day Salvation is based on free will, the free will of a sovereign God.
Anonymous
TO ALL…Anthony Tonka Green ..SALVATION IS BASED ON THE FREE WILL OF THE SOVEREIGN GOD……It takes the free will of the sovereign God to call/draw all, bar none, and the free will of the Holy spirit, to convict/convince all, bar none, that they are a sinner headed to a devils hell, unless the freely choose to take up their cross and follow Jesus, by first repenting of their previously committed sins, follow by placing their faith and trust in Jesus, to be saved, by and thorough His never-ending Love and Grace….”THAT’S WHAT’S CALLED HAVING A BORN EXPERIENCE”…AMEN…
Anonymous
Skip Pauley SALVATION IS BASED ON THE FREE WILL OF THE SOVEREIGN GO
Anonymous
TTO-ALL…Troy Day …free will–free will–free will….Do you know that if God had not created Adam with the sovereign ability to determine the destiny of his own soul, Adam could never have sinned, and because he sinned, is proof in and of itself, that sovereign God created him with the God given sovereign ability to sin if he freely chose to do so…Amen….
Anonymous
Anthony Tonka Green ???
Anonymous
Troy Day Our choices can be reduced or multiplied for example, a man in prison has fewer choices than a free man with billions of dollars in his bank account.
John 15 describes God as a tender of vines. We have our choices and can grow upward or downward, but if it will not lead to a greater good, He cuts it off.
All the possible choices were long ago taken into account . Storms and earthquakes and every other “act of God” test the choices of men. Some are cut off, some are pruned and Satan’s purpose is to magnify the separation between the righteous and the wicked for the pruning knife of God.
Choose life. Your destiny is pre-determined.
Choose death. Your destiny is pre-determined.
The righteous will be exalted and the wicked will be destroyed and this is all very good.
This is how I’ve come to understand it.
Anonymous
Peter Vandever no you are not
Anonymous
Yes, it tries to rule over God’s words.
Anonymous
Philip Williams in what way does it do that! I’m not saying you are wrong, I’m just wondering if you can give me an example? Please.
Anonymous
Roland Smith instead of allowing God’s words to rule, Calvinism requires God’s word to be ruled by it’s deterministic light.
Anonymous
RT Carmen Isaac A neo-mystic has recently come out for universalism. It’s shocking, & he says that #3, in particular, is offensive – IN what WAY?
Anonymous
Please stop tagging everyone in your posts
Anonymous
“Calvin defines ‘heresy’ in terms of error, as if he said, I will write against the errors of Servetus and will show that those who err, that is, heretics, are to be punished with the sword. We shall see that this is the mind of Calvin. He wishes all those who grievously err to be killed unless they endorse the opinions of Calvin…. If this were done, all who bear the Christian name would be killed, except Calvinists…” Concerning Heretics, Sebastian Castellio, p. 265 (Ronald Bainton-Translator)
Anonymous
God’s will (desire) is for all to be saved
1 Timothy 2:4, 2 Peter 3:9
Christ’s Atonement is for all sinners
Isaiah 53:6, 2Corinthians 15:5, I John 2:2
The Holy Spirit (the agent of grace) can be resisted
Matthew 23:37, Acts 7:51
Believers do not always persevere
1 Timothy 4:1, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Galatians 5:7
Election is corporate not individual, based not upon ethnicity but faith in Christ.
Romans 9:22-26, Ephesians 1:4-13
Anonymous
Calvinist elitist mentality, intellectual pride and theological puerile are pride that makes believers think true Christianity is Calvinism, trying to gain followers by performing hermeneutical gymnastics gimmick. We must stay out of it away from poor evangelism and church planting.
Anonymous
I personally believe in the total depravity of man part.
Anonymous
When I came to accept Christ after having been 1. Prayed for unknowingly by people who had just met me. Had anyone been praying for me prior to this particular season? , I don’t know. I was not raised in a Christian home at all, but was exposed to certain un biblical religious teachings. 2. Those who prayed for me previously mentioned, witnessed to me and invited and took me to church service. Between the witnessing and the preaching, I began to start to understand some things and I began to sense and “feel” loved and different. I began to sense a “caring” for the first time in my life. There was a real caring for my soul…God was after me! 3. I certainly did not respond at the first invitation or admonishing or whatever you want to call it. 4. During this season I nearly lost my life 2 times. Still I had no idea the danger I was in. 5. These flawed Christians still continued to pray and witness…flawed because during this time I was also aware of their doing things that after I was saved realized Christian are basically not to engage in these things. I won’t go into what these are, but even that didn’t prevent God’s will being done. 6. There were certain times when the witnessing was more powerful and what I know since to be anointed…I knew nothing about being a born again Christian before and the finally, 7. The day came I was witnesses to and given the final invitation to pray and accept Jesus into my life. This time I did. In the living room of my apartment in a circle sitting on the floor with the people who prayed and witnessed to me after having just met me weeks before…I don’t know how long it took but all their “work” paid off for me! I have been a Christian since 1975 and will never forget how it all came about!
I came to Christ Jesus that day…not Calvanism or Arminiamism or any other “ism”…I came to Jesus! Or back to God through Jesus…
I began to study the Bible and listen to a variety of Bible teachers without any knowledge of the major thought processes or theological “bents” of these different teachers.i also has individuals begin to invest in my life
So, one thing I remember from those early days is that no matter who was teaching or what I was listening to, if it went along with the Bible I would accept it, if it didn’t I rejected it. I knew from the “git go” that some interpretation is right and some is not! I learned from day one man didn’t save me and men get wrong ideas and may be flawed in their teaching!
I don’t need anyone else’s “system” to know the truth…I can learn from others, which I do and always have. However, to be confined to any system with a man’s base on it is a red flag for me!
Jesus taught us that we need no man to teach us, for the Holy Spirit’s job is to lead and guide us into ALL the truth. That dies not eliminate the need for the 5 fold ministry or the need of the body of Christ with their gifts, talents and abilities.
I may agree with Calvin or Luther or any number of the early church leaders. I may or may not agree with any number of teaching that has come down through the ages.
Many times the knowledge and truth they understood was confined to their times and seasons. The Word of God never changes, but man’s understanding and interpretation of the Bible certainly does. I do believe that as we get nearer to the Lord’s coming the fulfillment of His Word, the body receives greater understanding. I have also witnessed a dangerous thing as well. That is that too many “Bible teachers” let themselves be influenced by the “spirit of this age”. Much of this Bible teaching needs to be immediately rejected. This takes discernment. I have have learned “good” things from some that I have had to stop listening to now because of their going into error.
We need to stay in the Word and let the Holy Spirit teach us. Going all in with any man’s system can keep us from truly missing out. Don’t be tempted to go along with someone you like and respect, if they stray from what God’s word teaches.
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess RT Michael Chauncey 10 Questions about a Believer’s Security:
1. How can a person be saved?
A. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. Acts 16:31
2. Is salvation possible apart from faith in Jesus Christ?
A. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:18
3. Must a person continue in faith in order to continue to be saved?
A. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end. Hebrews 3:14
4. Is it possible for a person to depart from the Christian faith?
A. Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons. I Timothy 4:1
5. What will be the end result of a person going back into the corruption of the world after they came to know Jesus?
A. For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22
6. Is it possible that the person who departed from the faith was a believer who was not actually saved?
A. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. John 5:24
7. If we say that a person must believe in order to be saved. Isn’t that works based salvation?
A. But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness. Romans 4:5
8. If a believer turns away and becomes an unbeliever doesn’t that prove they were never a believer?
A. Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us. I John 1:18-19(a)
9. Is there any bible proof that a person can be cut off after being grafted in?
A. Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. Romans 11:22
10. How then can a person be sure of his salvation?
A. If indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel. Colossians 1:23
Anonymous
RT Jamie Brown This is a really good solid post.
Anonymous
TO @everyone SALVATION IS BASED ON THE FREE WILL OF THE SOVEREIGN GOD
Anonymous
RT Ross Chenault
A sickening cult-like post by a Calvinist today. I won’t use his name, but this statement is clearly in opposition to the gospel of Christ. It’s a crystal clear example of how many Calvinists today are going over the top- and becoming cult-like in their condemnation of other believers.
What is the crime of these believers that they condemn you ask? Very simply that they dare to discuss the gospel and salvation in a straightforward way – as it was preached to the lost is Scripture; WITHOUT framing everything they say in Calvinist terms to their liking. It’s a sad example of Christians condemning other believers over non essential doctrine. Here’s the sad pathetic condemning statement by this Calvinist from Facebook today. Sad as it is:
“No amount of humbling or long exhausted prayers before regeneration will cause God to grant mercy to a sinner. Grace is a free gift. It is UNMERITED. If you believe that in order for God to be gracious and merciful towards you, that you need to humble yourself and do all these extra things. You are not a Christian. You do not know the Gospel. You undermine the severity of your sin. You undermine God’s character. You are unknown to Christ.”
Anonymous
Troy Day You need to stop demonstrating your biblical illiteracy and prideful arrogance. It’s straight from Genesis 3.
Divine sovereign grace is foundational to the Gospel and to the Christian life.
Those who get the Gospel right are Calvinists: God is sovereign in salvation, not man.
Yes, you’ll need to abandon Pentecostal theology if you want to get Scripture right.
Anonymous
No. Calvinism affirms the sovereignty of God and the doctrines of grace.
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess so does arminianism – no orthodox teaching denies the sovereignty of God and the doctrines of grace
Stanley Wayne
Yes
John 3:16 The carrot
Revelation 22:19 The stick