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Charles Page | PentecostalTheology.com
As long as the Church of God holds the position of only men serving as Administrative Bishops it remains a complementarian denomination in spite of a lot of members/ministers professing egalitarian views. When it adds women into the AB ranks the old beliefs of wives being in submission to their husbands will be like excessive rouge, make-up and lipstick and expensive jeweled adornment, bobbed hair and pants…just a legalistic thing of the past.
It will be an erosion of conservative family values. Men will not be able to speak up in Church unless they have gotten clearance from their wives at home first. How is that going to work out?
Sammy Ford
It won’t
Samuel Mosier
So you say the COG is racist but then you push for sexism? One of the many sides of Charles that doesn’t make sense. Lol Happy New Year Charles.
Lahry Sibley
Charles, isn’t it already like that?
Lahry Sibley
In order for women to be an “elder/bishop” in the Body of the MESSIAH, they must be the “husband of one wife”. Now I realize among the heathen, anything is possible, and evident. But it is not to be. A woman cannot possibly be the husband of one wife.
As far as women speaking in the church, could it be that Paul was addressing the very nature of women, that most men do not understand? Men “sort things out by thinking about them”. Women sort things out by talking about them, especially to another woman. I think this is what Paul meant by that. Don’t talk during the service. Wait till you get home, if there are things that you do not understand or have question about.
The obvious FACT that women should not usurp authority over men dates back to the Garden of Eden. And what a mess we have had since then. And of course, if the man holds his ground, he won’t have any intimate contact with his wife for a time. Maybe even a time, time, and a half time. 😉
Varnel Watson
what is your premise on this Ed Brewer Jim Price
Ed Brewer
Troy Day ….if you’re asking for my reaction, it is a GROSS oversimplification, and just plain silly
Varnel Watson
Ed Brewer IDK why is that? All this points to the fact that the United States, following the sad example of Europe, is becoming a post-Christian culture—one in which decreasing percentages of Americans operate out of a Christian frame of reality. We are on the threshold of a radically new reality. This had better awaken American Christians to the new evangelistic and missions challenge right before our eyes and in our own neighborhoods. Our nation is becoming one vast mission field, with growing numbers of Americans who have virtually no knowledge of Christianity at all. We are going to have to rethink how we see our own nation, and redouble, again and again, our commitment to share Christ.
Ed Brewer
Troy Day agreed 100%
Neil Steven Lawrence
Troy Day four walls evangelism is part of the problem.
Varnel Watson
The new data from the Pew Research Center is sobering and important. With hard numbers, it confirms what we have observed for decades now. We are witnessing the rapid and accelerating secularization of America. The numbers point to a disappointing pattern of lessening identification with Christianity and falling church attendance rates. There is also no sign that these trends will be slowed, much less reversed. This is, for Christians, a confirmation of the fact that our nation is growing more distant from the Gospel and hardening its resistance to Christian truth. These trends have been visible for some time, but there is a startling new velocity to these changes, and one that we and our churches had better look closely and think hard about what they mean.
The saving power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ remains as true as ever, but the fact is that the evangelistic landscape of our nation is changing right before our eyes. The rise of self-identified unbelievers as a percentage of the population is one significant factor, but the falling rates of church participation among those who identify as Christians is perhaps more alarming.
All this points to the fact that the United States, following the sad example of Europe, is becoming a post-Christian culture—one in which decreasing percentages of Americans operate out of a Christian frame of reality. We are on the threshold of a radically new reality.
Jim Price
That is above my pay grade.
Daniel Rusk
I just finished an article on Reconstructing Gender roles. It is probably not exhaustive, but it is filled with scripture.
The answer is in the Bible we just need to apply it consistently.
https://www.walkaboutjesus.com/thoughts-from-brother-daniel
Varnel Watson
the answer to what Daniel Rusk whats the question
Daniel Rusk
Troy Day the solution to the erosion you are talking about. Gender roles are laid out clearly in the NT.
So long as men act like they aren’t to avoid being called a chauvinist, they will continue to be pushed to the back.
Varnel Watson
Daniel Rusk Ed Brewer the problem seems to be much bigger than the quick fix solution provided
Daniel Rusk
Troy Day there is no quick fix solution that is sure.
Varnel Watson
seems spot on mostly at times