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William Bill Scudder | PentecostalTheology.com
Are Christians robbing God if the don’t tithe? Some churchs are strong on this that you are robbing God if you don’t. But is Tithing a New Testament practice at all? Is it really for Christians, or is it part of the Old Covenant? Is there really a law in force stating that all Christians must give ten percent? Or are we supposed to be “cheerful givers” – simply giving whatever God has placed on our hearts?
Shane Allen
how is it a popish idea when it is based in scripture. Just because catholics do something doesn’t mean that Christians should not. If it is unbiblical like worship mary then of course but the Catholic also worship Jesus so since they do we shouldn’t. Ridiculous
Chad Burns
Shane Allen again you’re asking a hermeneutic question.
Shane Allen
Chad Burns may I ask you a personal question. I am assuming you are a pastor or in the ministry is that correct? 2nd… when you give to your church does it equal more or less than 10% annually? You can PM if you wish. The reason I ask is that I figure most people that hold your view give less than 10% so there is a financial stake in the view they take. It costs me to hold my view. If I didn’t believe what I believe would I give more or less that I do. Because I would have no reference point at all then I would probably give less because I would think 7% or 5% or 8% or even 9% is quite a lot of money to give. With no reference point sinful men think less not more. Sinful men think it is okay to look as long as I don’t touch, it is ok to hate as long as I don’t kill, it is ok to covet as long as I don’t steal… well you see the point. Not only does my tithing support the church and the ministries of the church but it also teaches me to trust God.
Tony Perry
That’s not always the truth……
How can that be a justifiable question unless proof can be shown that all people holding a view that %10 percent gives less?
Shane Allen
Tony that is why I said that I “figure” it is just my guess or hunch. I could be wrong. That is why I have decided anytime I run into people that hold that belief that I would ask the question. Not scientific but I wonder what I will find. So I will ask you the same question. (for some reason I actually suspect that you give either 10% of more) So PM me if you will answer the question or feel free to post. Do you give more or less than 10%?
Tony Perry
Again what I teach usually goes in favor of more than that mark of 10 percent……
But usually folks have been fleeced so much it’s guilt giving, and I could easily say that those pushing %10 are guilty of forcing rather than a willing heart!
I don’t think Chad Burns or myself is against giving…..we realize giving supports ministry and those in ministry……!
Shane Allen
So by your answer I am assuming that you do personally give at least 10% of your income annually… yes or no?
Tony Perry
I give atleast % 10……then an offering as we can…
But I’m not in a denomination currently……..
So does giving 5 or 15% prove faith?
Shane Allen
I don’t think denomination matters. I really am not sure I could answer the question without saying that giving tithe is evidence of faith and obedience. I really cannot answer it from a point of view other than I believe it is the least we should give. It is voluntary (just as all offerings really were voluntary even in the OT although there was also laws of offering they were voluntary.) Obedience is evident of faith. It is acknowledging that our blessings come from God. It is obeisance to a greater by a lesser. The lesser is acknowledging that the greater gives us everything and owns everything.
Chad Burns
Depending on the month i give between 20-60% of my income. Yes i am a minister with a ministry. Yes i struggle personally but I’ve learned contentment.
Shane Allen
You proved me wrong… LOL. Way wrong.
Todd Davis
The definition for tithe is TEN. I’m not sure how it can be more clear.
Chad Burns
No actually i agree with you Shane Allen. Many who take my position don’t give and if they do its not sacrificially. But the Lord loves a cheerful giver. I give because i want to, not because i have to.
At the church i used to belong to everyone tithed, the money went into a bank acct where it did nothing but accumulate. Bills were paid but but no money was ever spent toward evangelism or helping the church grow biblically. If you were a tither and fell on hard times you were entitled to help but if one was poor then they were out of luck, or rather providence. A very small amount was given to other ministries doing the Lord’s work but this church itself exempted itself from it’s responsibility to the gospel. Then i refused to tithe and let the church bank account grow because it was already WELL into the black so i started buying tracts, bibles, and CD tracts to give away. The church stopped caring about the lost but i didn’t so instead of giving my money to the church account i invested it into reaching the lost, and discipling the saved. I started meeting friends who wanted to grow spiritually but their churches weren’t meeting the need so i took it upon myself. From that started my ministry.
That church is literally dying now, the youngest members are in their 50’s nobody even knows the church is there and there’s a sense of pride that they are the ONLY church in town that matters and teaches the truth.
Everyone used to know it as the ones that stood on the street handing out gospel tracts and making trips to Chicago to preach on the street, and they used to always run adds on the radio and paper advertising evangelistic services and discipleship classes. Now they have sunday morning services and that’s it. I just didn’t fit in. And a large part of that was because i didn’t pay tithes, didn’t drive the right vehicle, and didn’t have a good enough job or a nice suit and everyone knows you can’t be a preacher without a nice suit.
Shane Allen
Our church is just the opposite of the church you reference.
Chad Burns
And i praise God for that. I really do. We need more churches that take the call seriously to be the church.
Clay Mitchell
Jesus said that He did not come to destroy the law. I will admit, there have been times that I have looked at our checkbook and looked at the bills and thought it would be easy to pay the bills if I withheld the tithe. I chose to tithe and God has never failed us. We have never gone wanting or lacking. All the promises in Malachi about tithing have come to pass in our home and ministry. In fact, there have been times when churches have blessed our ministry so much that not only do we tithe from our love offerings to our church, we have also returned a portion of the money back to the church that blessed us. Some say that tithing is a matter of conscience. Well, my conscience won’t let me hold back the tithe.
Harry Hollmann Jr
My only comment on Tithing is if God required 10%, tithe under the law. How can we as Blood bought servants of Jesus give at least what they did in OT. 10% should be your starting point, why not give God 30%, and see what happens. The problem is we don’t,have enough faith to trust God. Me included.
Wayne Sims
https://www.facebook.com/BereanPathMinistries/posts/610159452351311
Shane Allen
Out of all the issues that divide conservatives I am shocked that one of those is who owns the tithe, who does the tithe belong to
Wayne Sims
I personally don’t think that it’s very divisive, unless it’s the prosperity bunch.
Harry Hollmann Jr
In the 70’s when I was an Asst pastor, I went to a meeting of
some pastors and a young Asst pastor was going to quit the AoG
Harry Hollmann Jr
Because he thought he had to tithe to the district as well as his church, you should have seen the look on his face when he found out he only had give a tithe of his tithe.
Jessica Pike
when we get to the Book of Acts we find that indeed MOST OF THE MONEY that came in actually went to feed and clothe the poor and the widows. In fact, it was a common practice for the Christians to sell any spare possessions and lay the money at the apostles’ feet, for distribution to the poor. (See Acts 4:32-37). What love these people demonstrated! And this was true giving “from the HEART”, not from some “LAW” that told them how much to give…. thank you William Bill Scudder for these words bc they are SOOO true!!
Denise Ball Carrigan
You know, I understand why people want to know what the Bible says about tithing and what a Jesus Christ follower is supposed to do. And I’m not directing any of what I say towards anybody who has posted here. I haven’t read what people have written. So I won’t be “debating”. Whenever I see a question about tithing and why and how much and how often, I kinda just groan about it. One of those “oh no. Not tithing again!” And then I remember the day my father taught me to tithe like it was yesterday and I’m sorry most anyone who reads this would not have been taught by my father. My sister, Earline and I, cleaned the church at Dalhart every Friday night or Saturday. Py was for $25 a month.Earline got $20 and I got $5. She was older and the manager of me and had been since the day I was born. So she got to tithe the same time I did. She swept all the hardware floors and concrete floors in the Sunday School rooms. Used a lot of sawdust. I dusted every week everything that could possibly have dust on it. And then I cleaned the bathrooms and church nursery! Thank God it was a small church so only two bathrooms – one Women, one for Men! And I liked taking the bedding out of the crib to wash over in the parsonage.And ironing the little pillow cases. I complained for the next 50 years about getting shorted on pay just because I was younger. It took me 6 month to put a dress in layaway and pay it off! And as soon as I had been insulted to get less money, Daddy said, OK, Denise, I’m going to teach you to tithe. OK. He said, give me 50 cents from your pay. And Earline, give me $2.00 from you pay. I said that’s not fair – she had to pay more! Daddy then picked up the offerering plate he had brought from the church and had me put my 50 cents in it and Earline her $2.00. Daddy said you both have just paid your tithe for the first time in your life. I said why didn’t we before. He said you didn’t have a job to earn money to pay tithe. I really was a little young for the lesson. He talked some more about when to tithe and what happened if we lost our job. And I said, Daddy, what are we going to do with the change you or Mother give us to tie in the corner of our hankies and put into the Sunday School offerering. Daddy then exxplained what an offering was and why, when and how much. It didn’t take him as long to explain all this as it has taken me to type this. I wasn’t great at math, but I was a whiz at figuring out my “profit” on every job I had – even the straight commission, high dollar money! We were done and I asked who was going to give us our Sunday School money for the next day. I LOVED having my change tied in the corner of my hankie. LOVED IT! from the time I could recognize what it was two weeks in a row! I never lost it or spent it. A couple of times I hit a couple of older boys in the head with the change because they pulled my pigtails! But that day Daddy said, if you want to give an offering along with your tithe, how much do you want to give? Then it hit me. I’m never going to get to buy a new dress! But Isaid I paid 50 cents in tithes. Who gets the offerings? Daddy said the first people are the missionaries we support in Africa. Then the offerings go to paying your salary. And for the grape juice and crackers for communion. For the hungry men who stopped at our house because there was an X on our fence in the front yard. We lived two blocks from RR station. My mother would tell them to go to the back porch and she took them a plate of food and sweet iced tea. If weather was bad, we sat in the kitchen with them. If weather was nice, they sat on back porch. They were all given a blanket and could curl up in the backyard with the dog if they wanted. So, I said, I think I should give as much in the offering as I give to tithe. Daddy handed me the offering plate. So out of my $5, I had given 50 cents to tithe, and 590 cents to offerings. And I asked Daddy who got the tithe. That’s when I discovered how Daddy got paid and where his money went. From that 2 hours conversation, I always knew what I was supposed to do and never, ever, begrudged the money I gave to God. I was part of God’s church. I never complained about giving to God and to the church or to anyone in any church when I just get a feeling that we need to give in and to different ministries. And I am always a cheerful giver. So is my husband. My dad wasn’t usually that “gentle” in how he explained things to us. He was of the school “because I told you to do it”. I wish I’d asked him if had discussed that with Mother or figured out on his own that how he told us was going to be more critical than what he said! Thank you, Daddy! I never forgot where our family’s income came from! Thank you every person who paid tithes where my dad was the pastor!
Jimmy Linville
I taught this in here sometime back, I have taught this at other places. It is by far the most exhaustive study on Tithing that I have ever studied, and I’ve studied this subject from many others. This will give anyone, a very good understanding of “Tithing” if they are serious about learning what the bible says concerning the “Tithe”
http://tithing101.com/
Harry Hollmann Jr
Question. When you tithe your income do you give off the Net or the Gross on your pay check??. I know how i give just wondering youir thoughts.
Jimmy Linville
Neither, I give according to 2 Corinthians 9:6-12 (NIV)
6Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
7Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
8And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.
9As it is written: “He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever.”
10Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness.
11You will be made rich in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
12This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of God’s people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God.
Jessica Pike
This scripture really points out how it’s suppose to be! 🙂 it’s not about a percentage. It’s about what you can give.
Barbara Gunter
IF we love God and we love His work, we will tithe…. If fact, we will give MORE than our tithe. The Gospel Is FREE, but sending it to the world is not free. Why would any true Christian not want to tithe? IMPOSSIBLE! If someone doesn’t want to tithe, they had better search their heart and see why?…..and ask God if they are truly saved?
Barbara Gunter
I’m certainly not trying to buy my way into heaven. I give because I love God, and I want others to know this great plan of salvation….without which no one can go to Heaven.
Todd Davis
I can’t wait to give. I look forward to paying my tithe. I don’t give my tithe, I pay it, because it doesn’t belong to me. It’s God’s! I’m always looking for ways to give.
Todd Davis
Isn’t it interesting that when money/paying tithe comes some people automatically play the Old Testament card. They really get defensive. (maybe it’s conviction) Paying tithe breaks the spirit of mammon off your money.
Jessica Pike
I have another question about tithing. How many of you turn in your tithes or receipts where you have given to the community on your taxes?
Jimmy Linville
We are under a New Covenant a better covenant, the new covenant does not require Gods children to tithe. Hebrews 8:6, 7, 13 (KJV):
6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
The Old Covenant didn’t work. Tithing didn’t work. Tithing was part of the Old Covenant law that ended when Jesus died on the cross.
I mean no disrespect nor want to hurt anyones feelings in this response, but post are unscriptural and in direct violation of the scriptures that I posted above in 2 Cor. 9:7. It’s a violation of scripture when someone is questioned as to rather they love God or if they are saved much less a true Christians, simply because they don’t believe in tithing.
This is precisely what Paul was coming against in 2 Corinthians 9:7 Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion for God loves a cheerful giver. In our day vernacular Pauls is saying, don’t give unwillingly and certainly not by force. That is why some post are unscriptural on a several levels.
I also tithed for years and at times would defend it as hard as anyone. It’s hard to turn loose of something that one has held too for years thinking they were correct. But there came a time when I Stopped taking everything the preacher said as being gospel. Things began to happen where I began to study for my self and as hard as it was I had to abandon some of the old teachings that I hung to for years, things like tithing, simply because it isn’t scriptural.
Chad Burns
John macarthur did a bunch of teachings on money, all of which are great. Here is a 2 part series where he breaks down what a tithe is, what it was used for under the old covenant, How it works in the new, etc etc. interestingly enough though john doesn’t say it, and never hints at it, it’s my observation that tithing can bankrupt the people in the church and even the spirituality of a church, or more precisely individuals in a church. Here’s the 2 mp3 sermons. There’s also a 5 part teaching he did but i haven’t gotten around to downloading it yet.
Part 1:
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1302/gods-plan-for-giving-part-1?Term=God
Part 2:
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1303/gods-plan-for-giving-part-2?Term=God
Clay Mitchell
There was a senior pastor I served on staff with who told me, “Clay, you want to know who the carnal Christians are in any church? just listen to the one’s who are always talking and asking about the money.”
Tony Perry
Again I don’t think the problem is people not wanting to give…..the issue is over a % 10 number!
I for one have not seen nor do I endorse withholding our giving for God in this thread….just a question of tithing in regards to a set amount!
I wrestled with this for sometime, but after looking deeper at scripture there is no set amount…..if folks choose to use the 10 as a reference that’s up to them…….in no way can anyone say that someone is being carnal or dishonest by seeking the truth of NT giving vs. OT law and theocracy!
I do agree that there are people who don’t want to give and make excuses but I don’t find that here!
Todd Davis
For those, who are making what I claim are false statements that tithing isn’t a NT thing, how’s not paying tithe working out for you financially? Are you living paycheck to paycheck? Are you drowning in debt? Are you always having unexpected expenses? Just curious?
Chad Burns
So Todd Davis that made like no sense bro.
Chad Burns
Actually Todd Davis i was drowning in debt and living hand to mouth when i was tithing. Once i came out from the law i was fine and have been ever since.
Todd Davis
Chad Burns I don’t believe you. I think your lying or in have a satanic blessing.
William Bill Scudder
http://christiannews.net/2016/04/10/lou-engle-of-the-call-prostrates-himself-kisses-foot-of-catholic-leader-as-act-of-reconciliation/
Chad Burns
No Todd Davis the fact of the matter is the tithing is not and never has been a scriptural command of the new testament. it was for national israel under a theocratic government. Now if you don’t like that then you go tell God he’s wrong because that’s what the bible shows. The problem is you probably don’t even own a bible let alone read one. Otherwise you’d show me that didactic n.t. literature enjoining tithing on the ecclesia…
Chad Burns
And Todd Davistodd when i tithed i lived in a basement, now i don’t tithe and have my own apartment, operate a ministry, and am much happier.
Tithing as a law was a jewish law that never existed in the n.t. till the roman catholic system made it necessary to milk ppl for money and establish a caste system or class system within the church so that the church can be partial to some people and impartial to others. Even in this thread there’s a theme where those who don’t tithe are saying all are equal and not all but a couple tithers such as yourself are establishing that some christians are better than others based on their tithe. So what of the book of james? Are not all equal? Are we not to be impartial? Are we supposed to love each other regardless?
If you were a Christian you wouldn’t be so upset but as paul wrote those who are justified by law are fallen from grace….
Todd Davis
Todd Davis
The Bible I have I stole from a hotel. lol I’ll never forget the day my Mom gave me first Bible at 7 years ago. It was only a NT. I was so excited I could barely sleep for days. It was all she could afford at the time. That’s been over 40 years ago and I still have it, plus many more.
Todd Davis
That should say 7 years old.
Chad Burns
So Todd Davis where’s that n.t. scripture that enjoins tithing to the church? I’m still waiting.
Todd Davis
Where does it say “Thou Shalt Not Tithe?” I’m out of town and when I get home you’ll get my response. No an excuse just extremely busy.
Chad Burns
oh no, believe me, i understand busy.. the thing is now you’re trying to argue from a negative. i.e. that because the bible doesn’t say to not do something it must mean to do it. the problem is the bible doesn’t say to gouge out your children’s eyes… but that doesn’t mean we can do that either.
arguing from a negative isn’t logically or biblically viable.. what we can do is argue from the positive i.e. what the bible says to and not to do. the book of hebrews says the law was fulfilled in Christ and the redemptive work of atonement. colossians 2 says that the handwriting of ordinances that was against us was nailed to the cross, referring to the law of moses. one would bring up “does that negate the 10 commandments?” and the answer is yes it does. however the interesting thing is that under the new covenant 9 of the 10 commandments were reinstituted.
another popular thing is to point out that tithing predates the law which doesn’t make thing’s any easier or more difficult because we are still under a covenant of grace so to point out that a time without covenant had something happening e.g. tithing, is still just as useless because it would have to be reinstated from the o.t. or instated from a time of no covenant or abraham’s covenant. but it’s not.
a popular thing to do is to put scripture in a taffy whomper (old school term) and then try to say we can transfer this piece of o.t. law into the new wen in reality that takes some screwy hermeneutic acrobatics to pull it off. those acrobatics would mean a series of complicated things such as nullifying the n.t., claiming that the church has replaced israel and has claim to exclusive promises made to israel alone. this replacement theology is what the roman catholic church used in 585 a.d. at the council of chacon when it instituted tithing as a law on Christians and also connected salvation to tithing, giving the church rights to strip people of their salvation if they didn’t tithe, refuse them sacraments,and even place curses upon them.
tithing was purposed as a form of income tax under a theocratic form of government known as Israel wherein the levite priests served as the magistrates and leaders of the people and nation.
Under the new testament there are some excellent examples of giving. but giving is not tithing. giving is voluntary, tithing is mandatory…
for more information from the what the bible and now pope’s and modern unbiblical church government systems teach i’d recommend the following resources.
does God require a tithe of all i earn article:
https://www.gty.org/resources/questions/QA144?Term=tithing
God’s plan for giving pt. 1- sermon
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1302/gods-plan-for-giving-part-1?Term=tithing
pt. 2
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/1303/gods-plan-for-giving-part-2?Term=tithing
Anonymous
Playing God..
Anonymous
No!
Israel was required of three tithes to support the theocracy, two annual, one every three years – average annual: 23.333%
Nowhere in Scripture is the Church – beginning at Pentecost – required to tithe. The Church that Jesus is building is not an institution or denomination.
We are saved by grace, we live by grace and we give by grace. We give as we purpose in our heart, as God provides, and sacrificially.
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess how do you mean?
Anonymous
Absolutely not!
Anonymous
God is just. He must always reward what is good and punish what is bad. Therefore, those who tithe to support their church and pastor must be rewarded in the Judgment and so God says, “Prove me now herewith and see if I will not pour out a blessing so great that it overflows.”
And Christ says, “Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
Jesus told his followers to give to everyone who asks (Luke 6:30), to give to those who can’t repay (Luke 14:13 – 14) and to freely give what we have freely received (Matthew 10:8). Paul established the principle that what we reap is a reflection of what we sow (2 Corinthians 9:6).
If all you do is tithe, you are missing out!
But don’t forget, there are more important things: justice, mercy, and faithfulness (Mt 23:23).
Anonymous
Ken Van Horn how do you mean?
Anonymous
I will provide you sinners with my PayPal link.
Anonymous
Philip Williams does it go straight to the pope in Vatican City, Italy ?
Anonymous
Troy Day not the Pope in Rome. It goes to the Pope at home.
Anonymous
Philip Williams whoS your Pope at home?
Anonymous
Troy Day go count your beads!
Anonymous
sure they are Link Hudson Philip Williams Duane L Burgess
Anonymous
Troy Day don’t most Christians pay 10% on all the proceeds of their agricultural lands flocks and herds in the land of Israel that they own?
If stock portfolios in retirement accounts own Israeli farmland, maybe you have a point. But what Levites would they pay it to? . Nestle has food processing plants in Israel. I haven’t read about international corporations owning Israeli farmland.
Anonymous
Link Hudson what does your denomin. minutes dictate that you do?
Anonymous
Troy Day Do you think minutes are binding on believers.
I think giving 10% or more, if one has a regular income, is a good thing. I’m not against that kind of tithing. I am against twisting scripture to manipulate people.
Anonymous
Link Hudson YES after consulting with several cog state overseers in the past and present post-pandemic your minutes ARE in fact binding for cog membership. Melvin Harter has explained in the past your practical commitments Neil Steven Lawrence Dale M. Coulter Tony Richie may add more to it
Anonymous
Troy Day never heard of a CoG making people agree to the minutes to attend a CoG.
Anonymous
Link Hudson Neil Steven Lawrence Melvin Harter John Mushenhouse The membership of the Church of God shall be composed of Christians who have accepted the teachings, doctrines, and government of the Church of God, and who have been formally received into its fellowship pursuant to the guidelines established by the International General Assembly Procedures for excluding members shall be set by the International General Assembly upon recommendation of the International General Council. https://churchofgod.org/beliefs/bylaws/#:~:text=The%20membership%20of%20the%20Church,by%20the%20International%20General%20Assembly.
Anonymous
Troy Day I’ve got the Bible.
Anonymous
Link Hudson and now youVE heard of a CoG making people agree to the minutes to attend a CoG – clarifies how cog thou art ! which we knew
Anonymous
Troy Day It doesn’t say they have those requirements to attend a church of God.
Also, no denomination has the authority to set their own restrictions as to what constitutes the church of God.
If that were the case, why not be Roman Catholic?
Even the apostles and elders in Jerusalem, when they discussed an issue, recorded what seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to themselves.
Anonymous
never heard of a member who do not comply with their practical commitments and adhere to their Declaration of Faith Melvin Harter will tell you such non-membership attendee just dont exist
Link Hudson are you saying you can continue being non-membership attendee after caught in pedophilia or practicing homosexualism. There must be some rules and regulations checks and balances in cog after all…
Anonymous
Troy Day I suppose a pervert could attend a Pentecostal church. But we aren’t talking about that. We are talking about doctrines of men. The church I go to is outreach oriented, and I hear they have had gender-confused youth they’ve reached out to that they are trying to disciple. They didn’t tell me who they are. There is a lot of stuff like that out there. They try to set things up to protect kids to keep perverts away from them, too. That’s a serious issue and if you don’t think people like that can get into a church, you need to get your head out of the sand.
Anonymous
TITHE = blessings & curses –you can have one or the other, not both. (BTW–to not be blessed by the LORD is a type of curse–right?!)
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence do you have to tithe when attending cog? Link Hudson is saying practical commitments and adhere to their Declaration of Faith do not really imply at least not to him or something similar of that sort and so
Anonymous
Troy Day I didn’t say I didn’t set aside 10% of my income. It’s like what some ignorant posters say about alcohol. If you point out that the first century church drank ‘real wine’, they accuse you of being a drunk. It makes no sense.
The issue is whether the Old Testament scriptures about how Israelites are commanded to give ten percent of the products of their crops and herds from the land of Israel to the Levites means that believers are under the law to give 10% of cash income, and whether it is right to extract the last might from the widow by threatening her with a curse, as opposed to widows choosing to give.
Anonymous
Troy Day
The tithe is a biblical principle that began before the law during the time of the promise, and it reflects the principle that was already in place perhaps even before Abraham since the King-Priest Melchezideck was already in the habit of receiving a Tithe unto the Lord.
The tithe must be practiced by anybody who wants to be on the Church and Pastor’s Council of any COG. That is one of the five requirements listed in the minutes for those who would be a council member – and by default the pastor, who is the chairman of the council MUST tithe. 
I personally have never missed a month of tithe and 37 years. I believe that is  one reason why the LORD has blessed me in a manifold manner.