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According to the Bible what is keeping Christ from coming back now?
Varnel Watson
Dake explains – the church stops the evil one from appearing Pretty clear if you ask me Ricky Grimsley
Ricky Grimsley
He is obviously wrong based on his presupposition of the rapture. Circular reasoning.
Varnel Watson
Actually makes lots of sense and answers all the questions which pre-wrath mid-trib etc cannot answer
Ricky Grimsley
Lol name one thing that prewrath can’t explain?
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Where is that written? That is totally against prophetic scripture
David McLaughlin
He is waiting for the Father’s voice to tell him to come.
Varnel Watson
oh come quickly Lord Jesus
Douglas Bowers Sr.
I am ready but still hoping to win more lost souls! His mercy and love will delay His coming!
Ricky Grimsley
Here is what he is waiting on. Revelation 6:11 KJVS
[11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were , should be fulfilled.
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Many scripture has not been fulfilled yet.
Douglas Bowers Sr.
I know of no prophecy yet to be fulfilled that would prevent the Rapture of His Bride! Mtt. 24:44
Ricky Grimsley
How can you say that?
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Because I know the chronological order of events
Ricky Grimsley
Please read people. This destroys pretrib.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJVS
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. [3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
We are still in the fifth seal. God is very clear Satan comes during the sound of the Sixth trumpet and The Almighty Returns on the seventh trump. and on the LAST Trump we shall all be changed in the twinkling of an eye
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Hosea 4:6 my children Parrish die to lack of knowledge
Douglas Bowers Sr.
Not going to enter a debate on this just going to make sure I hear the sound of the Trumpet?
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Are you better than Christ? We escape the hour of temptation for we don’t find The False one attractive. We see him as an abomination. We recognize him. And Revelation the last testimony of Jesus Christ it tells us the whole world will be deceived why are they deceived because they listen to ministers and didn’t study the Bible
Douglas Bowers Sr.
Love you all and know you love God!
Ricky Grimsley
Lol spoken like a true pretribber
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Some are chosen to make a stand they were chosen before the foundation of the world. God never needs a large army just one with the faith to stand and not bow. Just like the three Hebrew children who did not bow they were protected from the fire. True believers will stand not fly away. Ezekiel claims I am against those who teach my children to FLY I will snatch them from your hands. Amen amen amen
Ricky Grimsley
Yay now let’s throw in a little fatalist predestination to muck it all up.
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Ricky Grimsley have your read Jeremiah
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Ephesians 1:4
Ricky Grimsley
Of course. Do you think that applies to you?
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Romans 8:29
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Jeremiah 1:5
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
It applies to us
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
What about Job
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Kicking the dust off my shoes
Ricky Grimsley
Lol
Ricky Grimsley
Either you believe in free will or you don’t.
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Ricky Grimsley I believe some bow to Gods will.
Gina Marie Zarrin-Kia
Do the zoon have free will?
Ricky Grimsley
They have instinct
Brent Welke
One of the scriptures that have not been fulfilled is the Latter Rain. In the former rain they brought the sick out into the streets to be healed by Peter’s shadow. And the former rain was “moderate”. The latter is not. God is going to unleash his raw power, so the fact that the Imam has a higher IQ than the missionary and can outargue him will become irrelevant.
Varnel Watson
hey Ricky, Gina is kicking you on this one like old kia in a 3rd gear 🙂
Ricky Grimsley
I don’t why you people believe these things. Over and over Paul talked about the “day of the lord” he obviously believes it starts with the rapture and ends with Christ’s reign on earth. He tells you that day doesn’t come until the son of perdition gets here. Matthew, mark and Luke and also John in revelation give you a segue very of events and where is the rapture mentioned in them……..way closer to the end than the beginning.
Ricky Grimsley
For pretrib to be true you have to believe the Bible is corrupted by Calvinists or some other strange theories to make it all work.
Ricky Grimsley
For those who believe that Jesus can come back any time you need to read the New Testament again. None of the writers could possibly believe that. Especially since he told them of the persecution that would kill them and of the fall of Jerusalem and so on. When did his return become “immanent”
Varnel Watson
Come quickly Lord Jesus is pretty immanent
Ricky Grimsley
It’s a prayer. Obviously not answered. He ain’t came yet.
Ricky Grimsley
How do we “hasten” the coming of the lord?
Varnel Watson
It is an invitation by the community of believers for the Lord to return quickly. Who do the Church and the Spirit invite to come?
Ricky Grimsley
The point is if we can do things to speed his coming….it can’t be immanent.
Varnel Watson
From where can such point be made? Certainly not from the Bible
Ricky Grimsley
2 Peter 3:12 ESV
[12] waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!
Gerardo de Dominicis
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9