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2 Maccabees 7:28 (GNT) states,
So I urge you, my child, to look at the sky and the earth. Consider everything you see there, and realize that God made it all from nothing, just as he made the human race.
The CEB and DRA also translate this passage similarly indicating that god made everything from nothing with the WYC describing the creation "(out) of nought".
7 Other RSV-based translations render creation "out of things that existed." Which could either be proto-matter or from the dust of the ground as described in Genesis 2:7.
Depending on how one translates this, it provides a prooftext that the Hebrews believed in a creatio ex nihilo before greco-roman times or that they believed in a creatio ex materia, so what is the correct translation here? According to this passage, was "it all" created
- From nothing
- From the dust of the ground, just as he made the the human race
- or from some kind of formless and void proto-matter or pneuma?
Anonymous
It says, “nothing,” according to that version.
Anonymous
Tony Schneider The CEB and DRA also translate this passage similarly indicating that god made everything from nothing with the WYC describing the creation “(out) of nought”.
7 Other RSV-based translations render creation “out of things that existed.” Which could either be proto-matter or from the dust of the ground as described in Genesis 2:7.
Depending on how one translates this, it provides a prooftext that the Hebrews believed in a creatio ex nihilo before greco-roman times or that they believed in a creatio ex materia, so what is the correct translation here? According to this passage, was “it all” created
Anonymous
It doesn’t matter what II Mac says. It’s not the Word of God.
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess JOhn Mac? 🙂
Anonymous
the same question arises when we read jude and the peter books referencing 1 enoch and the assumption of moses books.
Do we use books that use books we dont use, for doctrine?
Anonymous
John Digsby tell us how do you feel about this
Anonymous
I don’t really care.
Anonymous
Steve Losee you didnt care about rapture back in the day and look @ you now 🙂
Anonymous
Troy Day didn’t I? But I don’t see what a non-inspired ancient book can really tell us.
Anonymous
Steve Losee oh well
Anonymous
JESUS IN YHE OLD TESTAMENT
Proverbs 8:22-23, 27 KJV
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Or ever the earth was. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: When he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:1-3 KJV
All things came from God, not nothing. That’s why he will reconcile all of creation as well back to him since it was separated from him when lucifer was cast down for exalting himself like God. We will get new bodies, and the Earth and even heaven will be made over.