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Leah M Grier-Lee | PentecostalTheology.comi’m suppose to teach a class on SPEAKING IN TONGUES in the near future. Other than scripture, can anyone point me in the direction of some good literature ? thank you in advance for your help !
Jon Ruthven [05/16/2015 1:36 AM]
A great book by and A/G theologian: Del Tarr, *The Foolishness of God: A Linguist Looks at the Mystery of Tongues.”
Dale Sanger [05/16/2015 1:53 AM]
Palma, Anthony C. The Holy Spirit: A Pentecostal Perspective. Springfield, Missouri: Logion Press, 2001. Menzies, William W. and Robert P. Menzies. Spirit and Power: Foundations of Pentecostal Experience. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House, 2000.
Lloyd-Jones, Martyn. Joy Unspeakable: Power & Renewal in the Holy Spirit. Eastbourne, UK: Kingsway Publications, 2008.
Dale Sanger [05/16/2015 1:55 AM]
those books I mentioned have more than just tongues in it, but all have some useful info in them regarding tongues…also Roger Stronstad’s “Charismatic Theology of Luke-Acts”
Gary Langley [05/16/2015 2:37 AM]
http://www.jackhayford.org/teaching/book-excerpts/the-beauty-of-spiritual-language-unveiling-the-mystery-of-speaking-in-tongues/
Pentecostal Theology [05/16/2015 5:45 AM]
There’s a large list Pentecostal bibliography on the subject we will be offering shortly. When exactly is your class? http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2015/may-web-only/imb-ban-speaking-in-tongues-baptism-baptist-missionary.html
Eugene Littlejohn [05/16/2015 9:44 AM]
Sister there is nothing better to use than the scriptures you can’t go wrong. I find books to include to much personal opinions. You will do fine pray and go at he will guide you.
Bobbie Purdy [05/16/2015 9:54 AM]
Before all of these other books, there was one book (the bible )..thats the only one that you need. .after that. .the Holy Ghost will teach and lead..
Leah M Grier-Lee [05/16/2015 3:51 PM]
God Bless !
Bobbie Purdy [05/16/2015 3:53 PM]
Yw
Gary Langley [05/16/2015 3:55 PM]
Astonishing. 8^0
Lee Roy Martin [05/16/2015 4:00 PM]
Gods empowering presence by Gordon Fee
James M. Henderson [05/16/2015 9:51 PM]
Howard Ervins books
Dale Sanger [05/16/2015 9:54 PM]
For those of you saying “The Bible” I think that went without saying. Looking to other books to help understand how to formulate a lesson plan is NOT a bad thing. In fact perhaps the person teaching will encounter some of the arguments of people like Dunn who are against modern usage of the gifts. It is good to have the use of other spirit filled people who God has used to write these other books that have been suggested.
Randy Buchanan [05/17/2015 10:27 AM]
Ken Hagin Tongues Beyond the Upper Room
Mark Biteler [05/18/2015 12:58 AM]
Dr. Jon Ruthven’s, What’s Wrong with Protestant Theology. http://www.amazon.com/Protestant-Theology-Tradition-Biblical-Emphasis/dp/098195264X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431925093&sr=8-1&keywords=whats+wrong+with+protestant+theology
James Price [05/18/2015 5:16 PM]
We should remember that the Pentecostal experience came before there was N T scripture. The book of Acts did not appear until 30 to 50 years after the resurrection. The Holy Spirit is not limited to the printed word.
Pentecostal Theology [05/19/2015 1:31 PM]
http://www.amazon.com/Pentecostal-Primitivism-Preserved-Donev-D-Min/dp/1477557539
RevChristophoros Iaonnes Janson [05/19/2015 8:46 PM]
Check out Bert Farias. He is on Facebook and his book on speaking in tongues should be available on Amazon.com. Not sure of the books’ names but I believe he’s written a couple.
Varnel Watson
Bobbie Purdy “Before all of these other books, there was one book (the bible )..thats the only one that you need. .after that. .the Holy Ghost will teach and lead”
Bobbie Purdy
What are you talking about. ..I know all of this. .I am pentecostal. .47 yrs back. .3 generation church of God
Anthony Lombard
Your inquiry makes me wonder if you should even be teaching such a class.
Bobbie Purdy
If anyone thinks that I am teaching a class. .this was a repost..any one in there rt mind with any understanding of the Holy Spirit should know that you can’t teach someone to speak in tongues. .that is a gift only he can give to you. .
Henry Bezalel
Not to teach people to speak in tongues I hope but to have knowledge on the subject Speaking in Tongues.Holy Spirit only one able to enable us
Varnel Watson
If posters actually read the article they may have noted that the quoted comment was by Bobbie Purdy about a request for literature review made last year by @Leah Grier-Lee to this group. Greet recommendations were given by Jon Ruthven Lee Roy Martin James M. Henderson Randy Buchanan and Mark Biteler among others. A great working/study bibliography on glossolalia was in the results. Here’s the link again http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/class-on-speaking-in-tongues/
Varnel Watson
Hm? Was your account hacked, brother? Randy Buchanan [05/17/2015 10:27 AM] Ken Hagin Tongues Beyond the Upper Room http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/class-on-speaking-in-tongues/
William Dick
Yes brother, the more helpful book I’ve found., the walk of the
SPIRIT the walk of POWER. by Dave Roberson.
Charles Page
Kjv Bible
Tim Renneberg
I would think the class would answer the questions of what, why and when? Not a class on how 🙂
Mary Ellen Nissley
Actually, how isn’t a bad question… as long as the answers are thoroughly Biblical.
I sought the Holy Ghost for well over a year before I finally was able to receive. And that night, He hit me in the middle of my stomach, and I was whipped back and forth like a palm tree in a hurricane… but no tongues. I landed on my back halfway down the aisle, shaking all over… but still no tongues.
Until a sweet little minister’s wife bent over me and said,
“Sister Mary Ellen, The Holy Ghost is all over you. He wants to use your tongue, but you’ve gotta make a sound to give Him something to work with. He’s not going to make the sound come out of you. That’s up to you!”
I was floored! I didn’t know that’s how it worked!
So I opened my mouth and started to say something, I don’t remember what. And it turned into a fluent language akin to Spanish or Italian. And it flowed like a mighty river for 2 hours.
So, telling them how might be a good thing.
Charles Page
My tongue sd boo
Charles Page
My tongue is akin to Bulgarian or Russian
Mary Ellen Nissley
Another thing about tongues… we in the Pentecostal churches tend to view them too much as a badge. Like something we receive to show we have graduated to the next level.
The gifts aren’t badges. They are not for personal glory or identification. Gifts are tools. Not certificates of congratulations.
Therefore, a very important aspect of a study on the subject of tongues would be, what does God want us to use this gift to accomplish? How can we as a body and as individuals be edified by tongues?
Jon Ruthven
Robert Graves and Del Tarr—check Amazon
Robert Borders
Just start saying your vowels frontwards and backwards!
Patricia Gardner Smith
Be care you are stepping on dangerous ground.
Patricia Gardner Smith
Be careful you are stepping on dangerous ground.
Patricia Gardner Smith
It can not be taught.It comes as the Holy Spirit gives the utterance using humans as the vessel to fill as God The Holy Spirit speaks.
Stacy-Jeff Justice
AMEN
Chris Darling
I’m assuming the class is on doctrinal issues and not a ‘how to’ class.
Stacy-Jeff Justice
I seriously hope so
Chris Darling
I’ve had people try to tell me that I can ‘practice’ speaking in tongues, so I don’t want to assume too much.
Gilberto Rosado
But tongues could be taught.if we had dedicated “Christians” to record and make correlative analysis of the language. Since most researchers do not take tongues seriously, we do not have this resource and tongues suffer from the criticism and mocking of the ignorant masses.
Patricia Gardner Smith
God does not speak at our will but at His will.Satan imitates tongues just as he imitates other things.But he can not imitate sanctification which cleans up a person and gets them ready for the real Holy Spirit and ready to be use by God because he (satan) can not cross the Blood line of Jesus’s precious blood that He shed on the cross at Calvary when He laid down His life for every one of us.So be careful satan does not fool you and cause you to blasphemy the Holy Spirit and lose your soul forever.
Jon Ruthven
get Del Tarr’s *The Foolishness of God: A Linguist looks at the Mystery of Tongues* Groundbreaker book.
Jon Ray
The class was to teach ON the subject of SPEAKING IN TONGUES and not on HOW to SPEAK IN TONGUES Patricia Gardner Smith
Charles Page
You have to tarry and wait for your emotional level to increase in order to speak in tongues
Timothy Carter
http://www.jryanherrington.net/pastors-blog/issues-in-contemporary-pentecostalism-by-r-keith-witt-french-l-arrington-editors
Timothy Carter
http://pneumareview.com/french-arrington-encountering-the-holy-spirit/
Timothy Carter
https://www.amazon.com/Speaking-Tongues-Initial-Evidence-Baptism/dp/159684079X#
Charles Page
The teaching needs to be tongues on demand or else the class may sit for hours until the emotions build up to tongues. The tarrying may take hours or days and other classes will need the room!
Link Hudson
Teach about it but teach that you cannot teach how to speak in tongues. Teach against that.
Charles Page
how can you teach someone to speak about the great mysteries of God in an unknown tongue. You can’t!
I you have the unknown tongue speak it without explanation and don’t be intimidated by people who will tell you, you can’t speak, forbid no one from speaking in tongues.
Charles Page
I am speaking in tongues presently as I finished my comments.
Varnel Watson
missing the point? the class is ABOUT not to teach HOW but one has to actually read the article not just look at the picture
Link Hudson
Isn’t this the ‘original article’?
“I’m suppose to teach a class on SPEAKING IN TONGUES in the near future. Other than scripture, can anyone point me in the direction of some good literature ? thank you in advance for your help !”
From a web design perspective, if there is something else we are supposed to read, it is hard to find.
Varnel Watson
What web design perspective? The post is on FB and clearly says what it says What else is thereto read? https://www.facebook.com/640123439376008/posts/838556239532726
Link Hudson
Troy Day Yeah, I went there and it says,
“i’m suppose to teach a class on SPEAKING IN TONGUES in the near future. Other than scripture, can anyone point me in the direction of some good literature ? thank you in advance for your help !”
That’s not much of an article.
Varnel Watson
the sister in OP was asking for directions – study materials / books it was pretty self understood what it was It said what it said Good scholars like Jon Ruthven, L Martin, JM Henderson, L Langely, Mark Buttler and others understood the question well and gave her some help. Guess Link Hudson thinks to be smarter than all these scholars?
Link Hudson
Troy Day What is wrong with you, man? Why would you throw an accusation at me like that? I read the OP, and responded. Why are you so often antagonistic for no reason? That doesn’t mean I think I’m smarter than anyone. Can you stop being so juvenile?
Varnel Watson
some bapticostals do need to be taught though
Link Hudson
Huh? I say we can teach about it not teach people to speak in tongues. Btw 2 ir at the most three is from the Lord through Paul. The A/G refer to that to in teachings on the subject.
Varnel Watson
RT Don Watson As one who thinks he identifies with a Classical Pentecostal understanding, I believe that a suitable order for the teaching is: The Person and work of the Holy Spirit, The Doctrine of the Holy Spirit, and the manifestation of the Holy Spirit (including speaking in tongues). You may question the order if you wish. And, with respect to “speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance,” I do see this as part of a Classical Pentecostal position. DEW
Steve Losee
at best, foolishness. At worst, demonic. Acts 2:4 “they spoke…as THE SPIRIT gave utterance”; NOT some “coach” or “teacher”.
George Hartwell
Teach how not to use belief in ‘speaking in tongues’ as a form of spiritual abuse especially on children.
Link Hudson
What do you mean?
George Hartwell
I would suggest teaching a class on speaking in tongues is unnecessary. Once people understand and receive the baptism in the Holy Spirit you can let the Holy Spirit and scripture teach them.
Isara Mo
No wonder when ministers want people to speak in tongues, they wil tell them.” SayJesus..Jesus..Jesus…or Thank you Jesus..thank you Jesus..thank you Jesus” as a mantra to open up the tongue…and release the utterance..
The Bible doesnt says in Acts 2 that they were in one place and a pastor was urging them on and on to start a fire..but simply says they were in one place and they heard the sound…
Link Hudson
I don’t think I have heard of that practice, but I remember reading FF Bosworth say some of the more unscrupulous preachers would have people say ‘Glory, glory, glory’ really fast.
I’ve seen a woman take her hand and move another woman’s jaw to try to get her to speak in tongues.
I’ve seen someone just urging a kid to try to say something as if to pray speaking in tongues out of them.
If the Spirit is like a well of water that springs up into eternal life, then the Spirit can flow. If the Spirit gives tongues, it can flow. We don’t have to try to make someone say something.
I also think Pentecostals and Charismatics in general get way too hung up on speaking in tongues. The Bible does not teach if someone does not speak in tongues that he is not filled with the Holy Ghost. In Acts 19, some or all of those people prophesied when the spirit came on them. Paul said to be filled with the Spirit and speak to yourselves in psalms, hmns, and spiritual songs. He also asked, “Not all speak with tongues, do they?”
Isara Mo
Link Hudson
In the part of the world I live I have witnessed the practise many times…
Varnel Watson
I;ve seen some saying the blood the blood and others forgive and give – but this aint in the BIBLE and it is NOT what OP was about
Curtis Wesley
I don’t need the class. I received the language over 40 years ago when the Holy Ghost flooded my soul and overflowed
Varnel Watson
Paul himself offered this class in 1 Cor 14
Daniel J Hesse
Can you teach this?