Troy Day I know who he is and the School of Christ International is actually a school that runs for three weeks at a time and is in over 160 countries.
Jeff Latham I’ve listened to hours of ravenhill. He was a Methodist if I remember right. And he did not believe in speaking with tongues as the infilling. He preached at Pentecostal churches but was not one. He wasn’t against it, he was for regeneration and holiness.
Heard a great story. A woman told the pastor one Sunday afternoon after a good service, “you sure have a wonderful gift!” The pastor responded “it may be a gift but it takes 40 hours a week to unwrap!”
still funny that NO one mentions ANYone from the FL revivals, Kansas, Toronto or Redding California Philip Williams Peter Vandever I STILL think BETHEL is one HOT MESS of a church a theological sleeper cell a time bomb in the making – just waiting
Eh… Parsley’s a good preacher. Maybe up until about 4 or 5 years ago I would have said deserving of at least contending for “Top 3” if we are seriously rating preachers like some type of idolatrous person-worship practice. But the last few years he’s been different. Even if I wanted to participate in this idol-worship discussion of venerating preachers above others I wouldn’t likely include Parsley on such a list at the present time. He needs to reevaluate a saying he got from his mentor Lester Sumrall: There’s much to be gained by a return to the discarded values of the past.
Troy Day I’d go as far as mid-2015. He was preaching some really, really good material in the months right before he announced that he had to step down for a season to receive treatment for his vocal chord cancer.
That situation seems to have been the greatest thing to effect him. For whatever reason, things have not been the same since.
Yes I remember around 94-95 that joke could preach and 2000 too may be but I quit following Now 2012 was a mess When did the little college round tables talk shows started?
I’ve heard so many good ones over the last sixty years. It would be impossible to rank them! what would be the criteria? Do we look at scholarship? emotion? Or What? I think we’d be getting into subjective issues rather than objective reality. And I’ve never even heard many of you, so how could I judge? DEW
Link Hudson Well you will have to ask him why he said he liked young men !!SOME TIME !AND THEN THE ONE LESS MOVEMENT CAN BE CHECKED OUT BY PARKERSBURG , WEST VIRGINIA ! END OF STORY !!
Cecil Carpenter If you want me to understand you, please do not write in all caps. Is ‘the one less movement’ a movement, or this just a random string of letters? Who is Parkersburg? Could you write this in a way that it more comprehensible ot people who do not know what you are talking about?
Was the comment about liking young men sexual in nature, or reinterpreted by people with dirty minds?
Wasn’t he misquoted as supporting homosexuality a few years ago?
Cecil Carpenter I guessed what that meant, but looked it up to be sure. If someone would respond like that, I don’t know if they have much of value to contribute to a discussion like this. You just make yourself look bad.
I’d certainly like to have heard Wesley preach; He was the founder of Methodism and of the Holiness movement. While he may well have been Pentecostal in heart, I’ve never heard of him as being called a Pentecostal preacher. But I’m saying too much–not challenging any of you, just voicing some thoughts. DEW
Finishing up the year in the Bible, I heard this passage:
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus an…
Douglas Bowers Sr.
Ray H Hughes, T.L.Lowery, Raymond Culpepper
Varnel Watson
strange – isnt Culpepper still living?
Rev. Aaron Powers
Yes sir!
H. Richard Hall, Norma Woods, Jim Angle
R W Schambach, T L Lowery, Ray H Hughes
Salvatore Tropea Sr
Willard Cantelon, William Lovick, Oral Roberts. There have been so many other!
Louise Cummings
I would say Perry Stone, Jentezen Franklin, T. L. Lowery.
Varnel Watson
strange – didnt T.L. pass?
John Duncan
Vaudie Lambert, AA Allen , Jack Coe
Varnel Watson
you think AA Allen is a great preacher? based on style, content, signs, theology ?
John Duncan
Troy Day I think he had great doctrine on holiness, some healing teachings were good and his delivery was amazing.
Varnel Watson
not so great on the Trinity and some more BUT as far as delivery I am not sure I would place him high – just my liking of course
John Duncan
Go to pentecostal gold web site and hear the best
Varnel Watson
like who?
John Duncan
Don Brankel should be checked out.
Link Hudson
I heard him preach at Family Worship Center in the 1980s. Swaggart liked him and he preached there a bit. After a while it got a little repetitive.
Varnel Watson
so THUS FAR NO women – WOW Joe Absher
Ed Brewer
Ray H. Hughes, G.E. Patterson, Mae Terry
Varnel Watson
no TL?
Ed Brewer
Troy Day ….loved and honored him as a revivalist, but his preaching was more about delivery than content – you asked for the best preachers
Varnel Watson
FJ May still No 1 in sermon content/structure
Jerome Herrick Weymouth
R.W. Shambach, my first pastor C.L. Dixon, Pastor Michael D. Neville.
Varnel Watson
Shambach was one of the greatest indeed
Greg Robinson
John Macarthur, John Piper, David Jeremiah
Ed Brewer
Greg Robinson ….its past April 1
Greg Robinson
Ed Brewer ???jk
Cecil Carpenter
Greg Robinson THE SUBJECT IS PENTECOSTAL PREACHERS !GREG ROBINSON !!
Varnel Watson
DONT miss Paul Washer Cecil Carpenter I think when Greg was at Regent those 3 were the closest to a Pentecostal they ever invited 🙂
Cecil Carpenter
Troy Day ?
Charles Satterwhite
Greg Robinson not Calvinism but Pentecostal Wesleyanism
Jeff Latham
B.H. Clendennen, Leonard Ravenhill, and A.W.Tozer
Varnel Watson
Clendennen took most of his material from another preacher
Jeff Latham
Troy Day who are you talking about?
Jeff Latham
Troy Day Jesus?
Jeff Latham
Troy Day Paul?
Varnel Watson
No – Clendennen
Jeff Latham
Troy Day yeah I know, I was asking which preacher?
Varnel Watson
oh hold on – I will dig it up We’ve spoken about this on several occasions The SOC was taken 1:1
Jeff Latham
Troy Day C.M
Ward?
Varnel Watson
He used the concept and titled it The School of Christ and used much of
T Austin Sparks
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pentecostaltheologygroup/permalink/1775593022495705/
Varnel Watson
http://www.austin-sparks.net/
Jeff Latham
Troy Day you have a problem with someone calling a ministry the School of Christ?
Jeff Latham
Troy Day I know who he is and the School of Christ International is actually a school that runs for three weeks at a time and is in over 160 countries.
Varnel Watson
I am well aware of all that Was close to the start of SOC in 1992 and afterwords but the material was still not own
Jeff Latham
Troy Day oh, you’re saying he stole the format for the teaching from TAS
Jason Lohse
Jeff Latham ravenhill and Tozer were not Pentecostal. But some of my favorite preachers
Pentecostal
Ravenhill was Pentecostal
Jeff Latham
Jason Lohse you sure about that?
Varnel Watson
format AND much of his teachings
Jason Lohse
Jeff Latham I’ve listened to hours of ravenhill. He was a Methodist if I remember right. And he did not believe in speaking with tongues as the infilling. He preached at Pentecostal churches but was not one. He wasn’t against it, he was for regeneration and holiness.
Varnel Watson
Jeff Latham yeah pretty sure – like 101%
Varnel Watson
Joe Absher I was gonna say Link Hudson but then naaah 🙂
Joe Absher
Heard a great story. A woman told the pastor one Sunday afternoon after a good service, “you sure have a wonderful gift!” The pastor responded “it may be a gift but it takes 40 hours a week to unwrap!”
Varnel Watson
a young boy asked his daddy on a Sunday morning
Is this preacher any good?
He aint good, son, but he aint long either
I think this may have happened at Ed Brewer church
Ed Brewer
Troy Day ha
Varnel Watson
may have been when Brody Pope visited though
Brody Pope
Lol
Varnel Watson
funny no one has else mentioned any of them ol boys who preached around Peter Vandever when he was in town
Link Hudson
For speaking skill Jimmy Swaggart is really good. The cadence, the dramatic pause…. Is speaking skill the main criteria?
Tony Edwards
Ray H. Hughes, R.W. Schambach, and Colie L. Edwards.
Charles Satterwhite
EL Terry; RW Schambach, TL Lowery
W Wayne Pugh
Bishop G E Patterson, Evangelist R W Schambach & Dr. Mark Hanby.
Link Hudson
Mark Rutland went to a Methodist seminary, but he’s run a Pentecostal Bible college and he’s on staff at a Pentecostal church now.
Jason Lohse
Jimmy Swaggart, David Wilkerson, Carter Conlon.
Joe Absher
What’s a Pentecostal Preacher?
Varnel Watson
still funny that NO one mentions ANYone from the FL revivals, Kansas, Toronto or Redding California Philip Williams Peter Vandever I STILL think BETHEL is one HOT MESS of a church a theological sleeper cell a time bomb in the making – just waiting
Peter Vandever
Bethel is off course but God is not done with it
Varnel Watson
I think Bethel is done with God
Also, I am YET to hear good preaching out of Kansas
Seems like good preachers are NOT in Kansas anymore
Varnel Watson
and what about NO TD Jakes – anyone? I would have considered Tom Steele points us to Rodney Lee Parsley by now
Tom Steele
Eh… Parsley’s a good preacher. Maybe up until about 4 or 5 years ago I would have said deserving of at least contending for “Top 3” if we are seriously rating preachers like some type of idolatrous person-worship practice. But the last few years he’s been different. Even if I wanted to participate in this idol-worship discussion of venerating preachers above others I wouldn’t likely include Parsley on such a list at the present time. He needs to reevaluate a saying he got from his mentor Lester Sumrall: There’s much to be gained by a return to the discarded values of the past.
Greg Robinson
Tom Steele ‘idol-worship and veneration of preachers’ is the root problem with many stagnated churches that ‘used’ to be on fire.
Varnel Watson
Greg Robinson Parsley used to be a good preacher in the 90s Pass 2012 he moved into average IMO
Tom Steele
Troy Day I’d go as far as mid-2015. He was preaching some really, really good material in the months right before he announced that he had to step down for a season to receive treatment for his vocal chord cancer.
That situation seems to have been the greatest thing to effect him. For whatever reason, things have not been the same since.
Tom Steele
I do agree though that in the 90’s and early 2000’s he was truly on fire.
Varnel Watson
Yes I remember around 94-95 that joke could preach and 2000 too may be but I quit following Now 2012 was a mess When did the little college round tables talk shows started?
Anonymous
Loran Livingston, Ray H Hughes, David Wilkerson
Daniel J Hesse
Dr. Paul Walker Jr. Mt. Paran Church of God Atlanta, GA
Varnel Watson
entertaining
Don Watson
I’ve heard so many good ones over the last sixty years. It would be impossible to rank them! what would be the criteria? Do we look at scholarship? emotion? Or What? I think we’d be getting into subjective issues rather than objective reality. And I’ve never even heard many of you, so how could I judge? DEW
Cecil Carpenter
T.D..JAKES IS A BI SEXUAL MULTI MILLIONAIRE WHO ONCE PROCLAIMED JESUS ONLY ! JUST SAYING FOR A FRIEND FROM WEST VIRGINIA
Link Hudson
What is your basis for accusing a man of being bi-sexual? How would you have learned that?
Cecil Carpenter
Link Hudson Well you will have to ask him why he said he liked young men !!SOME TIME !AND THEN THE ONE LESS MOVEMENT CAN BE CHECKED OUT BY PARKERSBURG , WEST VIRGINIA ! END OF STORY !!
Link Hudson
Cecil Carpenter If you want me to understand you, please do not write in all caps. Is ‘the one less movement’ a movement, or this just a random string of letters? Who is Parkersburg? Could you write this in a way that it more comprehensible ot people who do not know what you are talking about?
Was the comment about liking young men sexual in nature, or reinterpreted by people with dirty minds?
Wasn’t he misquoted as supporting homosexuality a few years ago?
Cecil Carpenter
Link Hudson Kma
Link Hudson
Cecil Carpenter I guessed what that meant, but looked it up to be sure. If someone would respond like that, I don’t know if they have much of value to contribute to a discussion like this. You just make yourself look bad.
Joe Absher
Still no mention of that fiery preacher John Wesley
Varnel Watson
very few have heard him in his own age
Don Watson
I’d certainly like to have heard Wesley preach; He was the founder of Methodism and of the Holiness movement. While he may well have been Pentecostal in heart, I’ve never heard of him as being called a Pentecostal preacher. But I’m saying too much–not challenging any of you, just voicing some thoughts. DEW
Jason Lohse
Joe Absher not Pentecostal
Joe Absher
https://youtu.be/MHcgyxuVok8
Alexander Petzinger
Charles Spurgeon and A.W. Tozer
Ken B
Smith Wigglesworth