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HAVE YOU USED THE 80/20 PRINCIPLE in YOUR CHURCH yet?
Varnel Watson
anyone Terry Wiles Michael Ellis Carter Jr.
Terry Wiles
?
Varnel Watson
used it?
Terry Wiles
What is it?
Terry Wiles
Ok. I looked it up. While the principle may be sound we approach the work of the Lord differently.
Terry Wiles
For instance, evangelism. It is true that those with the gift of evangelism is generally small. However, everyone is called to reach others. So we focus on relational evangelism. Invitational evangelism’s focus is on getting people you know to a place where they can hear the gospel. In this way the 80% work with the 20% (so called) in getting people to where they can hear. (The woman at the well inviting her friends is one example.)
I also use the “rule of 8” which says one trained worker will attract 8 others. The average church is still 72/74 according to latest surveys.
That’s:
* 1 lead worker or foreman (the pastor)
* 8 skilled workers (teachers/group leaders)
* 64 Congregants (adults and children)
If the pastor would focus on training lead workers the numbers change.
* 1 manger/supervisor (the pastor)
* 8 lead workers who know how and are able to train other.
* 64 skilled workers
* 512 congregants.
Every staff hire has one responsibility which is to work themselves out of a job so they can move to a higher level.
Of course the dynamics change day by day but in a church of 3000 we have 30 to 40 percent who fit into the skilled worker category serving in one place or another.
It doesn’t happen overnight.
Varnel Watson
hold up Terry Wiles you are speaking of the general 80/10 right? Ed Stedzer few years back reversed for the church to try to get 80% of the people to do more work, instead of 20% of the people to do 80% of the work – have you tried that in your church?
Terry Wiles
Troy Day my son was just with Ed Stedzer in a small study group. Interesting.
Varnel Watson
you son is baptist? – maybe he could ask him about this? https://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2009/february/biggest-sin-in-your-church.html
Terry Wiles
My son is Pentecostal. Stedzer was making a presentation to a graduate class
Varnel Watson
what does Ed know about Pentecostalism 🙂
Terry Wiles
It wasn’t wabout Pentecostalism. It was about mega and multicultural churches.
Terry Wiles
I’m talking about a modification. The 80/10 will only work modified. There are 80 with the gift of helps that have to be delegated tasks and they will stay busy until the task is finished.
Varnel Watson
tell us more about it Terry Wiles this is good stuff