Philip Williams No not really National IfographiX debunked the whole thing in 3 episodes with pure science Have you forgotten? Do we need to repost it? Circle sows NO wood pecs used at this time Weed pecks are not used in large boats anyways and so on and so on and so on The witness sees it above ground not hidden in an old Turkish shaft and so on and so on
BTW ol friend Phil
your vid of finding Noah
Is just like Perry’s video on finding the ark 🙂
2 ol raiders of the lost ark
Troy Day 1. Nat Geo is an entertainment channel which we will not allow to be part of this project. Thus, they have exited Noah’s Ark news even though their reports on our announcement was their most visited report in the history of that organization.
2. I have allowed one of my archaeologists to do a program with the History Channel so long as he doesn’t discuss the discovery. They are recording today.
3. Only a fool(!) would offer his opinion concerning what someone else has done, especially the Scientific Advisor of this project. How do you suppose yourself an expert on my work?
4. Know for certain that the sections of the ship are normally buried depending on the glacier and weather. It was buried the year I visited.
SO why would you think this was fake Philip Williams after all the guy saw it touched it just like you did – are you special in the sight of God than the next guy?
Troy Day I think you are so accustomed to shams, that you don’t believe there are ordinary sincere people telling the truth, especially about something wonderful. That’s an uncircumcised heart.
Philip Williams NO proof has been offered to ANY of your claims. You are free to SUPOSE but you cannot claim until proven. On the other hand, it has been proven that most of your claims are scientifically unsubstantiated proposal
Troy Day is there any better prove than the 6 eyewitnesses that Norm Geisler told Richard Land that have been inside Noah’s Ark? As to the science, you don’t process the expertise to judge. But if you would like to bring one up here, we can have a defense with a special post and let everyone judge just who does have the expertise.
Source your claims about proofs. Do they come from a neutral source?
perhaps Philip Williams you can still explain
HOW NOAH used circular power sow
wooden peck tech that was not invented
and a Turkish mine shaft to fly away
Link Indepth knowledge may help too
Troy Day because wooden artifacts, houses, tools, and ships don’t survive for thousands of years aside from extraordinary circumstances, you archaeological ignoramuses don’t know the technology used for crafting the very precise structures found all over the world from the Early Bronze Age. It is likely that they had iron tools as Genesis 4:22 also mentions.
But iron cannot survive but a few centuries wherever there is moisture. At any rate circular sawing doesn’t require power tools, though the wood I observed was chiseled. Nor has there been any mining higher than the salt works at the foot of the mountain. Please cite your source if you make this claim.
The structure I visited, as indicated by the black bowed hull, was manifestly a ship. The cage lumber I observed is used for animals not mining. So was the Neolithic chickpeas scattered on the floor. But why do you opine on something you or your sources have never seen? That’s the way of fools.
Troy Day yes, I should not have called you an archaeological ignoramus,, only archaeological uninformed. But someone who opines on something of which he has neither expertise nor acquaintance is definitely a fool.
And in this case, you are slandering me by accusing me of fraud.
Philip Williams I possibly could do that They were published in other languages and were about our mutual engagement in digging Traciann and Slavic cities some dated ~4BC. My role was overseeing excavating and pre-dating. Meaning pre-date before and determine if carbon test is needed. This was in the late 70s More recently in 88-89 we completely excavated and restored a complete Traciann town. My role there one summer was overseeing excavation of the burial hill very typical for the Spartacus tribes. Then there was a Roman basilica built in the valley next to the hill obviously after 4AD. The neo Christian Romans adopted the burial site as they built a church next to it. Then a mile downhill at the river there a number of so called crop-service building. We could not establish their role as green houses or what not but there was plenty of pottery, brass and other remains. Multiple generations of mint coins had been found prior to our work and placed in the newly built museum close by and even robed and stollen. Most significantly the necropolis we uncovered at the site and was later restored was proven to be oldest known place where we know for sure gold was ever used. Site is now known as oldest gold of mankind predating the pyramids by 3-4 000 yrs. I never published for a reason…
Troy Day I respect that work. My own papers are mostly published in foreign journals. My specialty is in prehistoric sites and you clearly have one. Not so different from Schleimann’s “Troy,” which can’t be so distant from your site. Remember the treasures he smuggled from that site? Both of you dug sites ended by the Flood. Hence, the necropolis and of course the gold and treasure. People don’t leave such treasures for grave robbers. Now think about what you dug?? Were any of the skeletons in flex positions? That’s evidence of drowning.
Philip Williams Were any of the skeletons in flex positions?
not in hours
we found mainly burial sites in the hill 4BC or earlier
no flex pos. one had a horse 🙂 or two
the heads of the horses were not there
so it was kind a hard to determine what’s what
the service buildings by the rive were just copper pottery etc
NOW they did say the basilica had burials in the walls and foundations but I did not see them. By the time we got to it they had concreted the foundations
HOWEVER the necropolis with the FIRST MAN GOLD
google it – the burial has flexed position most definitely
Troy Day these sites like the one at Troy were reoccupied. Burials in the walls are definitely from the Flood. There are examples of this all across the earth.
Philip Williams no no the Roman Byzantium burials were late Troy was also during Greek times so much later. We are talking Tracian necropolis before the pyramids OR at least so was the working theory then Google it – mans oldest gold or something of the sort
Troy Day as the case of so many of these, naturally they assumed the burials were of the later occupants. Otherwise, the burials had no occupant site as should be the case.
And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. …
Anonymous
Hagopian was likely taken to the site as a young lad living in Armenia around 1900. Ed Davis was taken to the site around 1943.
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picture worth 1000 words !
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Troy Day Hagopian took no pictures as did I.
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Troy Day https://www.arkinsight.nl/ark-van-noach-op-ararat-enkele-getuigenverslagen/
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Philip Williams this was shown false by National
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Troy Day that’s an absolute lie!
Anonymous
Philip Williams No not really National IfographiX debunked the whole thing in 3 episodes with pure science Have you forgotten? Do we need to repost it? Circle sows NO wood pecs used at this time Weed pecks are not used in large boats anyways and so on and so on and so on The witness sees it above ground not hidden in an old Turkish shaft and so on and so on
BTW ol friend Phil
your vid of finding Noah
Is just like Perry’s video on finding the ark 🙂
2 ol raiders of the lost ark
Anonymous
Troy Day 1. Nat Geo is an entertainment channel which we will not allow to be part of this project. Thus, they have exited Noah’s Ark news even though their reports on our announcement was their most visited report in the history of that organization.
2. I have allowed one of my archaeologists to do a program with the History Channel so long as he doesn’t discuss the discovery. They are recording today.
3. Only a fool(!) would offer his opinion concerning what someone else has done, especially the Scientific Advisor of this project. How do you suppose yourself an expert on my work?
4. Know for certain that the sections of the ship are normally buried depending on the glacier and weather. It was buried the year I visited.
Anonymous
Philip Williams first of all it was NOT Nat Geo
and then you are wrong about all the rest
Anonymous
Troy Day no, i know the Government officials who control that mountain. They have never allowed anyone to survey that mountain.
Anonymous
SO why would you think this was fake Philip Williams after all the guy saw it touched it just like you did – are you special in the sight of God than the next guy?
Anonymous
Troy Day I believe he did see a section of the Ark.
Anonymous
Philip Williams the front or the rear ?
Anonymous
Troy Day section A
Anonymous
Philip Williams sounds like a sham
Anonymous
Troy Day I think you are so accustomed to shams, that you don’t believe there are ordinary sincere people telling the truth, especially about something wonderful. That’s an uncircumcised heart.
Anonymous
Philip Williams NO proof has been offered to ANY of your claims. You are free to SUPOSE but you cannot claim until proven. On the other hand, it has been proven that most of your claims are scientifically unsubstantiated proposal
Anonymous
Troy Day is there any better prove than the 6 eyewitnesses that Norm Geisler told Richard Land that have been inside Noah’s Ark? As to the science, you don’t process the expertise to judge. But if you would like to bring one up here, we can have a defense with a special post and let everyone judge just who does have the expertise.
Source your claims about proofs. Do they come from a neutral source?
Anonymous
perhaps Philip Williams you can still explain
HOW NOAH used circular power sow
wooden peck tech that was not invented
and a Turkish mine shaft to fly away
Link Indepth knowledge may help too
Anonymous
Troy Day because wooden artifacts, houses, tools, and ships don’t survive for thousands of years aside from extraordinary circumstances, you archaeological ignoramuses don’t know the technology used for crafting the very precise structures found all over the world from the Early Bronze Age. It is likely that they had iron tools as Genesis 4:22 also mentions.
But iron cannot survive but a few centuries wherever there is moisture. At any rate circular sawing doesn’t require power tools, though the wood I observed was chiseled. Nor has there been any mining higher than the salt works at the foot of the mountain. Please cite your source if you make this claim.
The structure I visited, as indicated by the black bowed hull, was manifestly a ship. The cage lumber I observed is used for animals not mining. So was the Neolithic chickpeas scattered on the floor. But why do you opine on something you or your sources have never seen? That’s the way of fools.
Anonymous
Philip Williams so you resort to calling names when logic gets to the point of no return proving your find a fake ?
Anonymous
Troy Day yes, I should not have called you an archaeological ignoramus,, only archaeological uninformed. But someone who opines on something of which he has neither expertise nor acquaintance is definitely a fool.
And in this case, you are slandering me by accusing me of fraud.
Anonymous
Philip Williams given I got WAY MORE actual archaeological dig experience that you do I may opt out
Anonymous
Troy Day please link your archaeological reports and publications.
Anonymous
Philip Williams I possibly could do that They were published in other languages and were about our mutual engagement in digging Traciann and Slavic cities some dated ~4BC. My role was overseeing excavating and pre-dating. Meaning pre-date before and determine if carbon test is needed. This was in the late 70s More recently in 88-89 we completely excavated and restored a complete Traciann town. My role there one summer was overseeing excavation of the burial hill very typical for the Spartacus tribes. Then there was a Roman basilica built in the valley next to the hill obviously after 4AD. The neo Christian Romans adopted the burial site as they built a church next to it. Then a mile downhill at the river there a number of so called crop-service building. We could not establish their role as green houses or what not but there was plenty of pottery, brass and other remains. Multiple generations of mint coins had been found prior to our work and placed in the newly built museum close by and even robed and stollen. Most significantly the necropolis we uncovered at the site and was later restored was proven to be oldest known place where we know for sure gold was ever used. Site is now known as oldest gold of mankind predating the pyramids by 3-4 000 yrs. I never published for a reason…
Anonymous
Troy Day I respect that work. My own papers are mostly published in foreign journals. My specialty is in prehistoric sites and you clearly have one. Not so different from Schleimann’s “Troy,” which can’t be so distant from your site. Remember the treasures he smuggled from that site? Both of you dug sites ended by the Flood. Hence, the necropolis and of course the gold and treasure. People don’t leave such treasures for grave robbers. Now think about what you dug?? Were any of the skeletons in flex positions? That’s evidence of drowning.
Anonymous
Philip Williams yes Schleimann was my example
BUT now they are disproving him as well 🙂
Anonymous
Philip Williams Were any of the skeletons in flex positions?
not in hours
we found mainly burial sites in the hill 4BC or earlier
no flex pos. one had a horse 🙂 or two
the heads of the horses were not there
so it was kind a hard to determine what’s what
the service buildings by the rive were just copper pottery etc
NOW they did say the basilica had burials in the walls and foundations but I did not see them. By the time we got to it they had concreted the foundations
HOWEVER the necropolis with the FIRST MAN GOLD
google it – the burial has flexed position most definitely
Anonymous
Troy Day these sites like the one at Troy were reoccupied. Burials in the walls are definitely from the Flood. There are examples of this all across the earth.
Anonymous
Philip Williams no no the Roman Byzantium burials were late Troy was also during Greek times so much later. We are talking Tracian necropolis before the pyramids OR at least so was the working theory then Google it – mans oldest gold or something of the sort
Anonymous
Troy Day as the case of so many of these, naturally they assumed the burials were of the later occupants. Otherwise, the burials had no occupant site as should be the case.