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The first text is 1 Thessalonians 4:17, where the Greek verb for being “caught up” (which is what “rapture” means) is harpazō. The English word “rapture” is derived from the Latin verb rapio, which was used in the Latin Vulgate to translate harpazō in 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
There is also a second text that is often appealed to in popular contemporary eschatology as support for the rapture, though the term there is “taken” (paralambanō), not “caught up” (Matthew 24:40-41; and its parallel text Luke 17:34-35).
Greek: epeita hemeis oi zontes (PAPMPN) hoi perileipomenoi (PPPMPN) ama sun autois arpagesometha (1PFPI) en nephelais eis apantesin tou kuriou eis aera; kai houtos pantote sun kurio esometha. (1PFMI)
Amplified: Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord! (Amplified Bible – Lockman)
Barclay: and then we who are alive, who survive, will be caught up by the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air. (Westminster Press)
Milligan: And only after that shall we who are surviving be suddenly caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord in the air. Thus shall we ever be with the Lord. (St. Paul’s Epistles to the Thessalonians. 1908)
NET: Then we who are alive, who are left, will be suddenly caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
NLT: Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. (NLT – Tyndale House)
Phillips: Those who have died in Christ will be the first to rise, and then we who are still living on the earth will be swept up with them into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And after that we shall be with him for ever. (Phillips: Touchstone)
Wuest: then as for us who are living and who are left behind, together with them we shall be snatched away forcibly in [masses of saints having the appearance of] clouds for a welcome-meeting with the Lord in the lower atmosphere. And thus always shall we be with the Lord. (Eerdmans Publishing – used by permission)
Young’s Literal: then we who are living, who are remaining over, together with them shall be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in air, and so always with the Lord we shall be;
We who are alive and remain – The fact that Paul uses the first person plural (we) (see discussion of use of “we” in v15) strongly suggests that he fully expected to meet the Lord in the air. In other words the great apostle anticipated the imminent return of His Lord. The English word imminent is interesting as it is derived from the Latin verb imminere (from in = upon, towards + minere = to project) which means to overhang. One gets the picture of the return of the Bridegroom to rapture His Bride as an event which “overhangs” the Church (in a positive and motivating sense) (see Tony Garland’s discussion of Marriage of the Lamb especially The Jewish Wedding Analogy). Certainly, if the Bride lived with this constant mindset, she would seek to keep her linen bright and clean, which are the righteous acts of the saints (see note Revelation 19:8) (See doctrine of imminency)
PAUL’S DESCRIPTION OF
THE RAPTURE
Does Paul really describe a “rapture“? That seems to be the question of many skeptics and scoffers. They argue that the word “rapture” is no where to be found in Scripture. In addressing their argument, it behooves us to keep in mind that the Latin Vulgate was the primary Bible translation utilized for one thousand years preceding the Reformation. In short, the Latin Vulgate “reigned” as the primary Bible translation longer than any other translation. In the Latin Vulgate the Greek word harpazo was translated “rapiemur” which is clearly related to our English terms “Rapture” or “raptured“. So those detractors who argue that the term Rapture does not appear in the Bible are only expressing their ignorance and are obviously unaware of the prominence of the Latin Vulgate translation in church history. Setting aside the argument that the word rapture (which is true) is not found in modern translations, the more important question is what does the original Greek word harpazo actually mean? Clearly it is a verb in the original Greek and verbs generally convey action. What is the picture conveyed by harpazo? (Gillian Welch & David Rawlings – I’ll Fly Away)
Shall Be Caught up (726) (harpazo from haireô = take, in NT only in middle voice = haireomai = to take for oneself, to choose; akin to airo = to raise up) means to snatch up or way, to seize or seize upon, to steal (see comparison to klepto below), to catch away or up, to pluck, to pull.
Harpazo means to take suddenly and vehemently, often with violence and speed or quickly and without warning. The idea is to take by force with a sudden swoop and usually indicates a force which cannot be resisted. In eschatological terms (future events, prophetically related) as in the present verse, harpazo refers to what is often known as the “rapture” (Latin = raptura = seizing or Latin = rapio = seize, snatch)
Harpazo thus can be translated by the verb to rapture which describes the act of conveying or transporting a person from one place to another or from one sphere of existence to another. The English word rapture can also convey the idea of ecstasy as with one who is “carried out of” oneself with joy, but that is not the primary sense conveyed by the NT usage here in 1 Thessalonians.
Harpazo is future passive (so called “divine passive” in this context – the action is exerted by outside divine force) indicative (this is the mood of certainty which describes a real event, stating that this is a future fact which we can count on!) first person plural (implying in context not just individuals but many individuals, specifically the true church composed of all the believers of the church age).
The picture of individuals being snatched up and away is seen in four NT uses (see the verses below)…
(1) Of the act of the Spirit of the Lord snatching Phillip away (Acts 8:39)
(2) Of Paul being caught up to the third heaven (Paradise) (2Corinthians 12:2,4)
(3) Of believers being caught up to be with the Lord (1Th 4:17–note)
(4) Of the “child” (Jesus) being caught up to God (Re 12:5–note)
Harpazo conveys the idea of force suddenly exercised, and also well rendered by the English verb to snatch (to seize, take or grasp something {someone} abruptly or hastily with emphasis on the idea of suddenness or quickness)
The related word harpage (724) refers to robbery, plunder or seizing of one’s possessions (Mt 23:25 = describing scribes and Pharisees who were “full of robbery” {greediness}, Lk 11:39, Heb 10:34). The adjective harpax (727) is used 6 times in the NT (Mt 7:15 = “ravenous {rapacious} wolves”; Lk 18:11 = “swindlers”, “extortionists”, “embezzlers”; 1Cor 5:10; 5:11; 6:10 = same meaning as in Lk 18:11)
The uses of harpazo in the Gospels refer to robbery or the unlawful snatching away of something or someone (see below – Jn 10:12, 28, 29; Mt 11:12; 12:29; 13:19).
Harpazo was used of rescuing one from a situation of threatening danger as in “snatching them out of the fire” (see Jude 1:23 below)
Harpazo in secular Greek was used to describe the action of a wolf which entered a flock of sheep and suddenly snatched up (harpazo) a lamb. (see John 10:12 below)
Moulton and Milligan note that harpazo was often found in secular Greek in petitions complaining of robbery.
Harpazo as noted can convey the sense of “to steal” but it differs from another Greek word klepto (English = kleptomania {from kleptes = thief} refers to a strong impulse to steal) referring to stealing secretly or with stealth whereas harpazo denotes robbing with a more violent action.
Harpazo is also used to mean forcibly to seize upon, snatch away, or take to oneself (see below Mt 11:12, John 6:15, Acts 23:10)
Harpazo is used 13 times in the NT…
Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force (grasping in the sense of either resisting or laying claim to the Kingdom as their own – see comment).
Comment: This is a difficult verse to interpret and can mean that evil forces from without sought to violently seize and destroy the kingdom of God or that persons who were ready for the advent of the King responded vigorously to His announcement, “violently” seeking to enter the kingdom of God,. The latter interpretation implies the difficulty with which one enters His kingdom {cp the related passage Luke 16:16 which has the second meaning.} Both interpretations indicate that John the Baptist’s initial announcement of the coming King and Kingdom met with a “violent reaction” either by evil opponents or by enthusiastic supporters.
Matthew 13:19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away (robs, plunders, swoops in and steals away) what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road.
John 6:15 Jesus therefore perceiving that they were intending to come and take Him by force, to make Him king, withdrew again to the mountain by Himself alone.
Comment: This use of harpazo illustrates the violent nature of the seizing – here is a forcibly taking of someone.
John 10:12 He who is a hireling, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, beholds the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep, and flees, and the wolf snatches them, and scatters them.
John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. 10:29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
Comment: Here harpazo underscores the believer’s security in Christ, speaking of the impossibility of anyone snatching a believer out of the hands of Jesus or His Father.
Acts 8:39 And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away (from the presence of the Ethiopian eunuch and drag off to a different place); and the eunuch saw him no more, but went on his way rejoicing.
Comment: This “rapture” entails the movement from one place on earth to another, in contrast to the “rapture” in 2Cor 12:2,4, 1 Thes 4:17, Rev 12:5, all of which refer to one being caught up to a supernatural world.
Acts 23:10 And as a great dissension was developing, the commander was afraid Paul would be torn to pieces by them and ordered the troops to go down and take him away from them by force, and bring him into the barracks.
2 Corinthians 12:2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago– whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows– such a man was caught up to the third heaven… 4 was caught up into Paradise, and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 (note) Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Jude 1:23 save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.
Revelation 12:5 (note) And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up (passive voice indicating God did the snatching) to God and to His throne. (Comment: This event is described in Acts 1:9-11 {these verses do not use harpazo} where Jesus was taken up into the cloud).
Harpazo is used 34 times in the non-apocryphal Septuagint (LXX)
Ge 37:33; Lev. 6:4; 19:13; Deut. 28:31; Jdg. 21:21, 23; 2 Sam. 23:21; Job 20:19; 24:2, 9, 19; Ps. 7:2; 10:9; 22:13; 50:22; 69:4; 104:21; Isa. 10:2; Ezek 18:7, 12, 16, 18; 19:3, 6; 22:25, 27; Hos. 5:14; 6:1; Amos 1:11; 3:4; Mic. 3:2; 5:8; Nah. 2:12
A number of the uses of harpazo in the LXX translate the Hebrew word meaning to tear (taraph; 2963) (as of beasts of prey, tear to pieces – Ge 37:33, Ps 7:2, 50:22, Hos 5:14, 6:1) which brings out the violent aspect of harpazo. None of the LXX uses of harpazo convey the same sense of rapture as found here in 1 Thessalonians, although there are two OT “raptures“, the first of Enoch who “walked with God and he was not for God took him” (Ge 5:24) and the other of Elijah who “went up by a whirlwind to heaven” (2Ki 2:11).
Below are some representative uses of harpazo in the LXX…
Leviticus 6:4 then it shall be, when he sins and becomes guilty, that he shall restore what he took by robbery (Hebrew = gazal, 1497; Lxx = harpazo), or what he got by extortion, or the deposit which was entrusted to him, or the lost thing which he found,
Job 20:19 “For he has oppressed and forsaken the poor; He has seized (Hebrew = gazal, 1497; Lxx = harpazo) a house which he has not built.
Job 24:2 “Some remove the landmarks; They seize (Hebrew = gazal, 1497; Lxx = harpazo) and devour flocks… 24:9 Others snatch (Hebrew = gazal, 1497; Lxx = harpazo) the orphan from the breast, And against the poor they take a pledge.
Psalm 10:9 He (the wicked man) lurks in a hiding place as a lion in his lair; He lurks to catch (Hebrew = chataph, 2414; Lxx = harpazo) the afflicted; He catches (Hebrew = chataph, 2414; Lxx = harpazo) the afflicted when he draws him into his net.
To meet – This phrase indicates that the Lord will be coming from one direction and we shall be coming from another to meet together in the air! What a glorious day that will be!
Martin Luther said he only had two days on his calendar—today and “that day.”
To meet the Lord – Literally reads “into a meeting with the Lord.”
Anonymous
Yes. I hope people are tribulation ready as well
Anonymous
Kyle Williams sinners need to be tribulation ready for sure
Anonymous
Troy Day and Saints the same. Just as the martyrs of days past.
Anonymous
Kyle Williams yes! They are the ones who need salvation.
Anonymous
Troy Day Matthew 24:29-30
Anonymous
Kyle Williams Troy won’t be tribulation ready because he will be moaning and groaning because the pre trib rapture didn’t happen.
Anonymous
@everyone
Anonymous
Troy Day Amen
Anonymous
Yes, please.
Anonymous
Church Swindoll had a saying I ascribe to. “I stay ready to keep from gettin’ ready.”
Anonymous
Central to Paul’s argument are the words, “the dead in Christ will rise first.” Although the resurrection of the believing dead receives frequent mention in the NT (e.g., 1 Cor. 15:23, 52; also Luke 14:14; Rev. 20:4–5), Jesus’ own eschatological teaching in the Gospels does not directly state that the resurrection of the dead occurs “first” (before the living go to meet the Lord). Perhaps Paul was meditating on Jesus’ statement that the angels “will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other” (Matt. 24:31; cf. Mark 13:27). Or perhaps Paul knew more from oral apostolic tradition or direct revelation.
Anonymous
Troy Day that comment about the four winds looks down right post tribulational.
He said it unto them by the word of the Lord. He could be relating a prophecy here. He shares commandments and messages from the Lord in I Corinthians 7 and 14. Is it likely that Jesus gave instruction for tongues, interpretation and prophesying in church meetings before the ascension that Paul learned through tradition.
In Galatians Paul said he did n’t recieve nor was he taught the gospel of man but by revelation of Jesus Christ.
Anonymous
the verb for “meet” in the phrase “meet the Lord in the air” is key to understanding these anticipated events. This Greek word for “meet” (apantēsis) appears in only two other NT texts. In the eschatological parable of Matthew 25:6, the virgins wait for the bridegroom, whom they “meet” and welcome back to the wedding feast. In Acts 28:15, Roman believers travel out to the Forum of Appius in order to welcome Paul and bring him back to Rome with them. In both Matthew 25 and Acts 28, the action of meeting involves going forth to greet an honored person, then promptly returning with the honored guest. Many instances of apantēsis in the Septuagint Greek OT follow a comparable pattern (e.g., Judg. 4:18; 11:31, 34; 19:3; 1 Sam. 13:10), and secular Greek writings use the word to speak of civic delegations going out to welcome a dignitary before returning in celebration to the city.
Anonymous
Troy Day amen
Anonymous
Troy Day sounds like post trib. I read that that happened at an official parousia. The citizens neet tge official and escort Him back to earth. The saints meet tge Lord in tge air. The Lord returns to the earth with the saints. This aligns with other scripture as well and does not necessitate asserting that verses about the coning of Christ refer to multiple events.
Anonymous
If yall would read the Book about the prophecy of the end, you wouldn’t have false rapture theology.
but, ‘As the Lord lives, who brought up the sons of Israel from the land of the north and from all the countries where He had banished them.’ For I will restore them to their own land which I gave to their fathers.
Jeremiah 16:15 NASB1995
if they take thought in the land where they have been taken captive, and repent and make supplication to You in the land of those who have taken them captive, saying, ‘We have sinned and have committed iniquity, we have acted wickedly’; if they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name;
1 Kings 8:47-48 NASB1995
Then it will happen on that day that the Lord Will again recover the second time with His hand The remnant of His people, who will remain, From Assyria, Egypt, Pathros, Cush, Elam, Shinar, Hamath, And from the islands of the sea. And He will lift up a standard for the nations And assemble the banished ones of Israel, And will gather the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 11:11-12 NASB1995
If your outcasts are at the ends of the earth, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there He will bring you back.
Deuteronomy 30:4 NASB1995
And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven.
Mark 13:27 NASB1995
but if you return to Me and keep My commandments and do them, though those of you who have been scattered were in the most remote part of the heavens, I will gather them from there and will bring them to the place where I have chosen to cause My name to dwell.’
Nehemiah 1:9 NASB1995
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire
The people of Israel are being gathered back to the land and fulfilling all of the prophetic scriptures you just quoted.
After that the Rapture will take place and then the seven-year, great tribulation, and then the return of Christ to reign from the same land for 1000 years . After that, the entire earth and heavens will be destroyed by fire, and we will all move to the new heaven and a new earth. 
So the land of Israel is only a temporary provision… One that points to the eternal provision. 
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence who are the people of Isreal? Scripture only.
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire
Genesis 22:16–18.
 “I swear by myself, declares Yahweh, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me.”
-ultimately the children of Israel are those who are blessed because of and through believing in Messiah !!!!
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence I agree with your statement, but what scriptures show it definitively? Just trying to conduct an unofficial survey on how many Christians actually know who they are.
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire the whole Bible is a narration of how God created his covenant first with the children of Israel, and then expanded it to the water nation, and through the Messiah to the whole world. 
When we enter that covenant we become part of spiritual Israel.
Physical Israel still has a part to play as they are being re-gather to the land, and eventually they will mourn for the one who is pierced as one mourns for an only son (who has died) – Zechariah 12:10 this will happen when they realize that Jesus really was their Messiah at the time of the second coming. 
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence that is common understanding, but is that scriourally supported? Jesus said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
Matthew 15:24 NASB1995
What does that mean?
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire
We are grafted in to the olive tree that represents the children of Israel.
Romans 11:11–31. 
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence awesome! Believe it or not that isn’t taught in a lot of circles.
Anonymous
And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:29 KJV
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire sounds like you are NOT rapture ready
Anonymous
Troy Day I am doing everything I know to do to be ready for the Gathering Together. Rapture is a made up word and I made up theology.
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire
No, “Rapture“ is not a manufactured word, but a perfect word used to describe the phrase found in scripture: “caught up“.
The two ideas are synonymous!
Someone who understands theology understands that theological words are often times crafted to describe what we find in scripture. Some examples are:
1. Trinity = tri-unity
2. Rapture = caught up.
3. Atonement = at-one-mebt 
4. Eschaton = end times; last things. 
 Etc.
In fact, most of the theological words in English are created out of the Hebrew and Greek texts, and are not words, used directly from the original Biblical language ! 
Anonymous
Caught up and gathered are also synonymous depending on how it is used. Using the Bible to interpret the Bible when sees that the word caught up in the New Testament is speaking directly to the Gathering Together mentioned in Jeremiah Ezekiel and Isaiah. Context matters
Anonymous
Rapture theology is relatively new. Mid 1800s at best. It came in with replacement Theology and dispensational theology which are also new ideas.
Anonymous
Troy Day
So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who ***keep the commandments of God*** and ***hold to the testimony of Jesus.***
Revelation 12:17 NASB1995
Here is the perseverance of the saints who ***keep the commandments of God*** and their ***faith in Jesus.***
Revelation 14:12 NASB1995
And they ***sang the song of Moses***, the bond-servant of God, and the ***song of the Lamb***,…
Revelation 15:3 NASB1995
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of ***their testimony of Jesus*** and ***because of the word of God***, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4 NASB1995
Blessed are they that ***do his commandments***, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Revelation 22:14 KJV
Are you Caught Away ready?
Anonymous
Neil Steven Lawrence Caught up and gathered are also synonymous depending on how it is used. Using the Bible to interpret the Bible when sees that the word caught up in the New Testament is speaking directly to the Gathering Together mentioned in Jeremiah Ezekiel and Isaiah. Context matters
Anonymous
Rapture theology is relatively new. Mid 1800s at best. It came in with replacement Theology and dispensational theology which are also new ideas.
Anonymous
https://youtu.be/rFpquv0CkOA
Anonymous
Jared G. Cheshire the early church fathers also taught about the rapture. I was saved in a Baptist church when I was seven years old. No group of theologians taught me about the rapture. I just read it and understood it.  Later I got formal, theological education. It still makes sense. The rapture is a distinct event from the second coming. 
Anonymous
How about prepare to meet thy God ready???
Anonymous
Here is my rapture. It’s the wicked being taken away.
“since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might, when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints, and to be marveled at among all who have believed, because our testimony to you was believed.”
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10
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Philip Williams
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Anonymous
George Carrillo is that how you feel when your rapture gets blown away by Scripture?
Anonymous
Good Word on both sides ! I am Praying I am Rapture Ready !
Anonymous
Read Craig Keener.
Anonymous
I’m rapture ready Powerful word 😤
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What John’s vision in Revelation pictures is the wedding feast of the Lamb (Jesus Christ) and His bride (the Church) in its third phase. The implication is that the first two phases have already taken place. The first phase was completed on earth when each individual believer placed his or her faith in Christ as Savior. The dowry paid by the bridegroom’s parent (God the Father) would be the blood of Christ shed on the Bride’s behalf. The Church on earth today, then, is “betrothed” to Christ, and, like the wise virgins in the parable, all believers should be watching and waiting for the appearance of the Bridegroom (the rapture). The second phase symbolizes the rapture of the Church, when Christ comes to claim His bride and take her to the Father’s house. The marriage supper then follows as the third and final step. It is our view that the marriage supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven between the rapture and the second coming (during the tribulation on earth).
-unknown
Anonymous
When you get to Godly sorrows this is your death to bury is baptism to rise in Christ Jesus is come forth and be clean from sin and go sin no more this is the first death the second is to sleep in the grave until the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ some are a sleep others never died the first time so there dead in their grave.
Anonymous
The pre-trib rapture is only a small #.
Luke 21:36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Anonymous
If Jesus came right now would I be rapture ready? In my humble opinion of myself, no.
There was an elder in my church who was ready to go home to meet Jesus. His daughter said every morning he would wake up saying, “I’m not dead yet?” I haven’t gotten to that place in my life where I would have the courage to say that to God. I’m still thanking God every morning that I’m still alive and He’s given me another day to get it together. 😄
Anonymous
sounds like a LOT here are NOT rapture ready Neil Steven Lawrence
Anonymous
Troy Day we can only be ready for what we have prepared for.
If people refuse to heed the warning, that is one thing; but if people deny there is a warning, that’s a whole other animal! 
Anonymous
If we are saved we are “rapture ready.” We will go.
Anonymous
A word of caution to those Christians who are critical of the vast majority of Christian leaders and Christian movements today: the same judgment you use on others will be used against you. A little humility goes a long way here. Perhaps you’re not the only one who is right?
Anonymous
Troy Day So go along with the majority?
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
Matthew 7:13 NASB1995
Seems like Jesus considered that to be the first clue that something’s not right!