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Jesus spoke the parable of the Unforgiving Servant (Mt. 18:23-35) by saying: "Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his servants (v.23).
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Does the Parable imply "not forgiving our brothers from our heart" have a bearing on entering into the Kingdom of Heaven?
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Could Verse 34b – "until he should pay all his debt" be a clue?
Text: Matt. 18:34-35 (ESV)
34 And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers, until he
should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly Father will do to
every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart
Anonymous
come on Oscar Valdez JUST shows us how kingdom-now is pentecostal or has ever been AND how is it different than Kyle Williams who claims we are right now living in the Millennium with JESUS ? https://www.pentecostaltheology.com/kingdom-now-dominion-theology-is-so-bad-its-terrible/
Anonymous
Troy Day Kingdom now its pentecostal – Charismatic, NAR THING.
Anonymous
Oscar Valdez yes of course it is Charismatic, NAR THING. THIS is what I have bene telling you for months now
BUT it is NOT pentecostal
I challenge you to produce ONE SINGLE evidence
where early Pentecostals were kingdom now
and NOT soon coming kingdom
just one proof will do but it aint one out there
EVEN Philip Williams grannie was not kingdom-now
EVEN Link Hudson is not kingdom-now and he is way our there eschatologically @ the bapticostal verge
Anonymous
Troy Day Well some pentecostal area preaching the same thing about the Kingdom Now theology, thats very obvious nowadays 🙄
Anonymous
Oscar Valdez dont beat around the BUSH now
Just give a proof to back your lame theology
If not this PM we can revive the long series of 20-25 posts proving progresso disp is NOT even Pentecostal …
Jesus spoke the parable of the Unforgiving Servant (Mt. 18:23-35) by saying: “Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his servants (v.23).
Does the Parable imply “not forgiving our brothers from our heart” have a bearing on entering into the Kingdom of Heaven?
Could Verse 34b – “until he should pay all his debt” be a clue?
Text: Matt. 18:34-35 (ESV)
34 And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers, until he should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart
Anonymous
Troy Day Progre. Disp. it not pentecostal, but we are adapting it into pentecostal eschatology, for our form of pre-trib rapture.
Anonymous
Troy Day your eschatology is the one a lit of Baptists hold to.
I’m more concerned with what the Bible teaches than with being like the Pentecostals of 1906.
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess Kyle Williams Ricky Grimsley Jesus spoke the parable of the Unforgiving Servant (Mt. 18:23-35) by saying: “Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his servants (v.23).
Does the Parable imply “not forgiving our brothers from our heart” have a bearing on entering into the Kingdom of Heaven?
Could Verse 34b – “until he should pay all his debt” be a clue?
Text: Matt. 18:34-35 (ESV)
34 And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers, until he should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart
Anonymous
The kingdom of heaven is already and not yet.
Matthew 18:23-35 is a parable of a situation that effects the now. And it possibly effects the what is to come.
Here’s another already but not yet.
Ephesians 2:4-7 (NKJV) 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in the heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in [His] kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
Verse 6&7 is speaking in a present tense.
Luke 17:20-21 (ESV) 20 Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed, 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”
Anonymous
The parable is addressed to ethnic national Israel. While we do want to make application in the Church, it is not about the Church.
It is a warning about judgmental hypocrisy, and about Israel not being right with God. It does not teach that, if we, today, fail to forgive someone that we won’t be saved.
Jesus was essentially saying to Israel, “Oh, you think you are right with God? Here’s what is looks like when one is right with God.” One of Israel’s problems was her elitist pride, and not practicing forgiveness properly.
Jesus, “the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” also said that He had a unique ministry “only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
The Church is a mystery (Eph. 3) being revealed beginning at Pentecost. The Church is unknown in the OT, and practically unknown in the Gospels – “ekklesia” appears only twice. And after the resurrection the disciples were asking, “Will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?”
We must very carefully follow II Tim. 2:15.
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess YES ethnic ISRAEL ONLY – not the church Link Hudson Brett Dobbs JESUS spoke to his very Jewish disciples and Jewish only audience
Anonymous
Duane L Burgess Troy Day
Matthew 18:34-35 (KJV) 34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
This has nothing to do with someone potentially losing their salvation because of their unforgiveness. It does speak of the Lord allowing a person to be tormented because of their unforgiveness.
How can anyone possibly say that applies to Jews and not the church. I’ve heard several testimonies of people being delivered from sicknesses, and all sorts of afflictions because they had something that they were holding on too. And they needed to forgive. Here’s what Paul says to the church about it.
2 Corinthians 2:3-11 (NKJV) 3 And I wrote this very thing to you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow over those from whom I ought to have joy, having confidence in you all that my joy is [the joy] of you all. 4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote to you, with many tears, not that you should be grieved, but that you might know the love which I have so abundantly for you. 5 But if anyone has caused grief, he has not grieved me, but all of you to some extent–not to be too severe. 6 This punishment which [was inflicted] by the majority [is] sufficient for such a man, 7 so that, on the contrary, you [ought] rather to forgive and comfort [him,] lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow. 8 Therefore I urge you to reaffirm [your] love to him. 9 For to this end I also wrote, that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things. 10 Now whom you forgive anything, I also [forgive.] For if indeed I have forgiven anything, I have forgiven that one for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 lest Satan should take advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices.
Matthew 18:15-35 is directly to the church. Jesus even mentions the church in verse 17.
How could anyone think 15-20 is for the church. But the parable that follows that deals with this issue is only for the jews. That’s absurd.