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Biblical Evidence for the Pre Tribulation Catching away
John Ruffle
Does Perry Stone ever listen to anyone else? Or only if they already share his own theological bias? I’m not saying he’s wrong, but he can’t possibly be always right either.
Joseph Branscome
But he sure isn’t wrong on PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE .
John Ruffle
Don’t be sure.
Ricky Grimsley
Perry Stone is the classic example of “if you’re a hammer, all you see is nails”. He can probably see pretrib in genealogies.
Joseph Branscome
AMEN , and I am looking so forward to it .
Ricky Grimsley
Actually perry stone is wrong. He teaches that even if people are saved they may not go if they arent living an “overcoming” life (whatever that is) and also wont go if they dont believe in pre-trib. Pure conjecture. Not to mention he avoids 2 Thesslonians chapter 2 like the plague.
Joseph Branscome
I don’t agree with PERRY on everything myself . But the RAPTURE will be Pretribulation . And chapter 24 of Mat . was what JESUS was telling the diciples , that ISRAEL can expect to face , during the TRIBULATION . Remember the CHURCH ( BODY of CHRIST ) , has been RAPTURED OUT HERE .
Charles Page
Ricky, was Perry Stone one of those that Samuel Rodriguez was preaching against, the “breakthrough” ministries?
Ricky Grimsley
Joseph Branscome based on what scripture can you prove that?
Ricky Grimsley
Charles Page i dont know. Im not a big fan of mr rodriguez.
Charles Page
Ricky Grimsley Rodriguez was adamantly against breakthrough ministries does anyone understand what he was saying?
Ricky Grimsley
Id have to watch a video
Joseph Branscome
All I got to say FOLKS , is that EVERY HUMAN had better be STUDING as 2nd. Timothy 2 : 15 – 16 warns . Study to show yourself approved unto GOD , a workman that needth NOT to be ashamed , rightly dividing the Word of Truth . But SHUN profane and Vain Babbling : for they will increase unto more ungodliness . Every person neeeds to PRAY for GOD to reveal to them the Truth of what they read for themselves in the HOLY BIBLE , and quit taking every denominational DOCTRINE , as being the TRUTH . There are Millions and way too many Denominations , that AREN’T Teaching or Preaching the Book of ACTS , in its proper context . They flat refuse to Teach or Preach , that there is a DIFFERENCE in the gospel given to Peter for the JEWS , and the gospel given to Paul for the gentiles in GAL 2 : 7 . ( FOOD FOR THOUGHT ) Paul never preaches REPENTANCE and BAPTISIM to the gentiles for SALVATION , and Peter never preaches the gospel of Paul to the Jews for Salvation . Look at ACTS 2 : 37 – 38 and what PETER told they they must do for the remission of sin for ( REJECTING JESUS as the SON of GOD , their MESSIAH , and setting up their KINGDOM and RULEING over them for ETERNITY ) , and receive the HOLY SPIRIT . The ones that did repent and were baptised and received the HOLY SPIRIT , were refered to as Jewish Believers that assembled together and refered to as a church ( ACTS 2 : 47 ) , this church was those who believed WHO JESUS WAS and was baptised into the HOLY SPIRIT , not into the BODY of CHRIST . Today , We GRACE or CHURCH Age Believers , must believe in and except the gospel given to Paul for gentiles ( even Jews also ) as in 1st . Cor 15 : 1 – 4 to receive SALVATION by GRACE and be baptised into the ” BODY of CHRIST ” . If a Person , Preacher , Teacher , Denomination , don’t Rightly Divide the gosepls given to Peter for the Jews , from the gospel given to Paul for gentiles ; then they aren’t RIGHTLY DIVIDING the WORD of TRUTH , as described in 2 nd. Timothy 2 : 15 . FOLKS , Church members are running out of time , to get it right .
Charles Page
Joseph, are with the breakthrough group?
Joseph Branscome
Never heard of them . Who are they and what are they standing on . Besides , I figured you were able to give me some Scriptures , that might prove me wrong . I have yet , to find a Preacher , Teachers , that can or will give any Scriptures to prove the Scriptures I use , wrong . Every last one to date ( 2 years now ) , have said they would get back with me , and not the first one has yet . You , like the rest , have been only sarcastic . Why is it , that NO ONE has yet , to give me Scriptures , that prove Gal 2 : 7 is wrong ? Any suggestions ?