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Interview by Ray Mackillop of Pastor Win Worley at Hegewisch Baptist Church. 1982.
Anonymous
here we go again Dereck Harrelson Isara Mo William DeArteaga anyone involved in street preaching like Joseph D. Absher Jesse Morrell knows demons must be cast out … What is your take on this here dispensation of Jezebel Oscar Valdez Jim Price Jose Salinas especially since Link tells us there may be no such demonic spirit called https://www.pentecostaltheology.com/last-days-jezebel-opposing-revival-of-trumps-re-election/
Anonymous
Troy Day I point out that the Bible does not mention the Jezebel spirit.
Anonymous
Troy Day demonic spirit is real. I was fortunate to go to a rural area in Mexico (missionary) where there was a lot of demonic activity i e witch craft, and seen the power of God liberating these people who were unbelievers coming to Christ. I’ve never seen such exorcism like that day.
It’s easy to say such things don’t exist when you don’t pray and fast. Believers in rural areas who are hungry for God, is where the Holy Spirit manifests with power.
Anonymous
and Ive pointed out Link Hudson that Jezebel was Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth
Anonymous
Troy Day I don’t recall that, but I see no reason to think that Lydia moved to Laodicea and led God’s people astray.
Anonymous
Link Hudson of course you dont – but I do AND you really need to read your BIBLE more especially the part on
Tolerance of Jezebel in the Thyatira Church (Rev. 2:19-24)
Anonymous
Troy Day can you link to the evidence or restate it?
Anonymous
Troy Day i probably didn’t read it the first time around. So do you think the population of Thyatira was so small, Lyddia was the only woman there…and that she had to have moved back home from Philipi?
Anonymous
Link Hudson sure https://www.facebook.com/groups/pentecostaltheologygroup/
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Anonymous
Link Hudson not sure how you missed it when your comments are all over the post https://www.pentecostaltheology.com/do-pentecostals-still-believe-that-one-can-be-demon-possessed/
Anonymous
Troy Day I searched the page and found a reference to the idea in a post, but that doesn’t mean I read that particular post.
It seems to me like far-fetched guesswork. Is there any evidence for the idea at all, for example in church tradition. I don’t remember Euseibius mentioning a church tradition on that when he dealt with the letters, but he had other early traditions to report about Nicolaitans for example. Btw, are we exempt from sinning by slandering a saint if the saint is deceased?
Anonymous
Link Hudson really? you didnt read the comments about Lydia, Paul’s first convert in Philippi with your name by it?
Anonymous
Troy Day Using Cntrl-F for my name and Lydia I did not see it.
Anonymous
Link Hudson thats just too bad then; I found several references in this post / comments alone and there are multiple other posts
Anonymous
Troy Day I didn’t read the page. Just control F. It’s possible I read it and commented on it 5 or 6 years ago and forgot. I don’t remember all the outlandish claims I read on the Internet.
I notice some scholars in ANE or New Testament related studies like to come out with outlandish theories or theories that would have to be a huge coincidence to be true, or would only be somewhat reasonable if the scholar claimed divine revelation.
The idea that Paul’s writing on women usurping authority was a response to Diana worship seems to be of this ilk. The idea that Lydia was that woman Jezebel seems a lot more far-fetched. And I don’t think we should slander the dead.
I suspect we get a lot of crack-pot theories, like the idea that Solomon’s daughter wrote his books (a theory I heard a Sociology professor put forth as if it were fact) because there are grad students scrambling to come up with a theory that qualifies as novel enough to justify a dissertation or else academics trying to come up with something novel enough to be published, combined with a lack of reverence for the word of God.
Is there actually any evidence that Lydia was this woman beyond the place of origin hinted at by her name? For the Nicolaitans being named after Nicholas, who did not follow their doctrine, Eusebius reported an old church tradition. Is there anything like this about that woman Jezebel? Did someone write something on a piece of pottery that survived that I don’t know about?
Anonymous
The Link posted multiple times has sufficient information WHAT do you know about this John Mushenhouse Philip Williams Junior Beasley
Anonymous
Robert Cox well Link Hudson dont know this was Lydia
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Anonymous
Troy Day no reason to think that was an early convert to the faith, located far from Thyratira when Paul met her. Acts presents her in a positive light. Was they’re only one woman in the world who could ever have been from or had ever said foot in Thyratira. Is that the idea this interpretation is based on?
‘That woman Jezebel’ taught the people to commit fornication and to eat meat offer to idols. Those are the characteristics of Jezebel that are pointed out in the passage of Revelation not something about her husband or being royal or something like that.
Anonymous
Link Hudson of course there are PLENTY of reasons to think that was an early convert to the faith, located far from Thyatira Why would you even think otherwise?
Anonymous
do tell us ALL you know about this one Isara Mo Rasiah Thomas