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Do the math: 350,000 churches in America and 200,000 sleeping in the streets of America
Maryjane Williams [03/07/2016 9:18 AM]
For real. James 1:27
Tom Steele [03/07/2016 10:07 AM]
I just did a quick Google search and it looks more like there are over 500,000 homeless in the USA. I suppose a number of these people are in shelters or living in tents, so maybe 200,000 is an accurate number of people actually sleeping on the streets with no shelter at all. A very good point made here.
Brian Crisp [03/07/2016 11:28 AM]
Mostly because they choose that lifestyle. There are a lot that dont and do need help but a lot of them dont wont help.
Betty Gilliam [03/07/2016 11:36 AM]
And vacant buildings everywhere why are people on the streets? Misplaced priorities.
Patrick Conley [03/07/2016 11:43 AM]
Perhaps if “christians” gave 10 percent tithe plus offerings, instead of the 2.5 percent statistics say they give, churches could do so.
Jimmy Humphrey [03/07/2016 12:48 PM]
I’ve estimated that for a mere $25 million dollars, we could end the homelessness in my city (Charlotte) this year. We only have an estimated 2200 people in our city of nearly a million that are officially homeless Such is merely the budget of one or two mega churches in Charlotte. My church alone last year had that much revenue. But instead we prefer well paid pastors and large auditoriums.
Angel Ruiz [03/07/2016 1:03 PM]
this post sounds like JUDAS….
“Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.” John 12:5
Curtis Wesley [03/07/2016 1:21 PM]
Exactly
Nelson Banuchi [03/07/2016 2:27 PM]
Why place the blame on an organization or institution for something you can do but are not?
There are way more family homes than there are churches…
Alan N Carla Smith [03/07/2016 3:10 PM]
Nelson who should take care of the homeless? families rather than the church?
Alphonso Cornelius [03/07/2016 3:10 PM]
because some of them have chosen to live there. Its an amazing thing call free will.
Alan N Carla Smith [03/07/2016 3:11 PM]
Alphonso what about the one who didn’t choose that way of life and fell on hard times? It’s not easy to decipher sometimes.
Troy Day [03/07/2016 4:10 PM]
Instead of closing churches down, turn them into shelters for the poor and homeless. Wish I knew how to repost David M. Hinsen somehow https://www.facebook.com/david.hinsen.5/posts/10201224144401861?pnref=story
Angel Ruiz [03/07/2016 4:26 PM]
The Christian Church is the most active organization in helping homeless
Kevin Bounds [03/07/2016 6:16 PM]
In my opinion, some in this thread have forgotten the “church” is not an organization, but rather the people are the Body of Christ. Many will say the church should do this or pay for that, but never stop to realize they are indicting themselves if they as believers have done nothing. They are right the church should minister to the homeless. They are the church! I agree some pastors are charlatans, but to generalize and say all pastors are this way is simply wrong.
Sebastian Joy [03/07/2016 10:35 PM]
it is because of our selfishness that people sleep on the street. The Church as a body of Christ has technically nothing to do with it, but the leaders of the church have become too selfish to offer help to the poor and needy. I agree that it reflects on the nature of the priests and the pastors who have gone far away from the Lord.
John Ruffle [03/07/2016 11:13 PM]
It’s nothing like as simple as that.
Leslie Monahan [03/08/2016 1:53 AM]
True but there ars some Missions who sleep the homeless Bigger Churches could do more but they use their mooney to buy big jets,after all does your Pastor really need one or 2??
Henry Volk [03/08/2016 7:45 AM]
https://theologyinperspective.wordpress.com/2016/01/30/book-review-liberation-theology-an-introductory-guide/
Troy Day [03/08/2016 7:52 AM]
Henry Phil It’s not just Marxism. It is Marxist theology created by the KGB http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/kgb-created-liberation-theology/
Stephen L. Teaster II [03/08/2016 8:01 AM]
Choice.
Troy Day [03/08/2016 8:02 AM]
Henry Volk It’s not a hypothesis but a matter of state agency record. They even helped GUTIERREZ’S design his BOOK as a THEOLOGY http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/gutierrezs-book-a-theology-of-liberation-designed-by-kgb/
Troy Day [03/08/2016 8:19 AM]
In a nutshell, liberation theology actually was “born” not in Latin America, but in the bowels of the KGB, as part of a broader strategy to promote Soviet influence in the region that included backing the National Liberation Army of Colombia (FARC), the National Liberation Army of Bolivia, and, of course, the regime of Fidel Castro in Cuba. KGB also encouraged the World Council of Churches, the largest Protestant federation in the world, to support liberation theology.
Troy Day [03/09/2016 3:58 PM]
I am lost on the relation between Liberation theology and the scope of this topic especially in the light of the testimony of David M. Hinsen about poor and poverty https://www.facebook.com/david.hinsen.5/posts/10201224144401861
Troy Day [03/09/2016 4:07 PM]
all while while Henry Volk is praising Bernie’s support by common wealth workers 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206594848174767
Troy Day [03/12/2016 3:14 PM]
#whatever Ricky Grimsley https://medium.com/@kimballmortensen/10-reasons-why-conservatives-should-start-supporting-bernie-sanders-immediately-7eb700302a2a#.itkfn063l
Louise Cummings
Very sad.
Varnel Watson
something to think about Joe Absher
Joe Absher
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:”
– 1 Jesus 2:1
..just had an awful situation.”
Its scarey the things the homeless population does and says. Its not as safe and romantic a ministry as you might think.
Samuel Stebbins
I read an article recently and it was a actually over 550k homeless and 350k churches. Less then 2 homeless per church… some of these mega churches can house tens of thousands of people at once. So sad…
Charles Page
Would the homeless situation be altered significantly if the church took care of it own orphans and widows? I don’t think so.
Link Hudson
I heard a preacher on Youtube say his mission wasn’t to feed the homeless but to get people saved. He said he’d buy a homeless man a sanwich and share the gospel and if he did notaccept it that would be the last sandwich he would buy him. Too extreme IMO. The question ‘how does the love of God dwell in him?’ fromI John comes to mind.
But I agree feeding our own is the priority. Do good to all men, especially them that believe.
I also noticed in Indonesia church buildings (usually office space for Pentecostal/Charismatics) get locked up but men from the neighborhood may sleep at the mesjid. That’s pretty common in Minang areas I hear. That hard tile floor would be worse than a Chinese matress.
Varnel Watson
must be a Calvinist Link pls
Link Hudson
My wife was watching on her ipad so I don’t know it. Wasn’t worth watching. He did not present a Biblical case for that point.
Varnel Watson
then many calvinists are pretty hospitable too
Varnel Watson
Joe Absher but the MATH does make sense here
Joe Absher
Mothers Against Transient Homelessness?
Varnel Watson
simple math 200 000 homeless / 350 000 churches
Varnel Watson
yall do the math Jim Price Philip Williams
Philip Williams
Troy Day take them into your house if you wish to get robbed by crack users.
Varnel Watson
Philip Williams taken plenty and will do so but closing the church door to the needed kicks Jesus out too BTW you have a very ugly stereotype setting turned on
Philip Williams
Troy Day the church needs to start with the needy in its own midst. They are there unless you have driven them away for not forking over a tithe that you extort from them. God will certainly judge the greedy clergy of the dear old Church of God.
Varnel Watson
Mother Teresa –> We think sometimes that poverty is only being hungry, naked and homeless. … We must start in our own homes to remedy this kind of poverty.
Casius Leonidas
That number is way off. There’s over half a million homeless as of 2018 statistics.
Philip Williams
Casius Leonidas some real homeless among those working for Amazon and Google in Silicon Valley but not making enough to pay rent, thus living in campers and tents on the streets.
Link Hudson
Philip Williams if you live in a camper is that homeless? What if it is legel and hooked up.
Those sound like pple with great prospects sacrificing for a career opportunity.
Philip Williams
Link Hudson
They are indeed the working poor, many not even getting the minimum wage. The true poor to which Jesus’s refers are those of the family of God (book of James). Christians must have lost their minds to be neglecting them so as to enable the drug users and other children of the Devil.
Link Hudson
Philip Williams I was thinking of college grads getting a dream job at google but not able to pay rent in Silicon Valley but there would have to be people cooking the food Google gives employees to incentivize long hours. I would be surprised if Google emplyed them instead of outsourcing. Helping cooks etc. get a job outside of Silicon Valley might be tge best approach.
Jim Price
Our small church feeds and provides clothes for about 60 each month. The North Cleveland COG has a large, taking care of the needy, program. I would think that 500,000 might be on the streets without the help of churches. Yes some poverty is self induced, some because of rapid change in the marketplace and other because about 10-12% of the population has mental or physical handicaps. They can produce at some level but can’t meet all the requirements of modern society. Also just take a look at financial charts on FB, where the top 1/10 of the one percent has more wealth than 40 percent of the nation. The problem is great- beyond the ability of the church to solve.
Philip Williams
Jim Price great testimony. But I discovered from actually running an inner city ministry that it’s 99% drugs and alcohol. The only ones that I could help were the ones coming out of prison.
Varnel Watson
Catholic churches shelter many homeless
Davidking Manelli
Please we invite to India ministries for preaching