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Ermar Reyes Luna | PentecostalTheology.com
What is Hyper Grace Movement/Radical Grace? Is the teaching biblical?
John Kissinger [04/02/2015 2:58 PM]
King Agrippa, do you know the answer? I perceive you do…
Charles Page [04/02/2015 3:18 PM]
hyper grace indicates that the predominant theological realm of today has exhausted the potential of God’s saving ability. The lack is made up of man’s will to supply the efficiency of God’s grace.
John Kissinger [04/02/2015 3:23 PM]
The term hyper-grace has been used to describe a new wave of teaching that emphasizes the grace of God to the exclusion of other vital teachings such as repentance and confession of sin http://www.gotquestions.org/hyper-grace.html#ixzz3WBKKas4I
Charles Page [04/02/2015 3:25 PM]
in my discussions it seems to be an emphasis of imputed righteousness over any imparted, practical righteousness.
John Kissinger [04/02/2015 3:26 PM]
as long as we dont loose sanctification we are overall good
Charles Page [04/02/2015 3:30 PM]
or if we don’t confuse regeneration with sanctification which many are doing!
John Kissinger [04/02/2015 3:35 PM]
REGENERATION AND SANCTIFICATION DEFINED http://bible-truths-revealed.com/adv55.html
Daniel C. Sanford [04/02/2015 5:48 PM]
Current Radical Grace preachers use the same vocabulary as historical Christianity, such as “grace,” “forgiveness,” and “salvation.” Yet, they inject new meaning into each of these terms. We need to guard against any message of grace that doesn’t also emphasis discipleship and repentance.
John Kissinger [04/02/2015 5:53 PM]
Who specifically do you have in mind?
Charles Page [04/02/2015 5:58 PM]
John MaxeArthur
Ermar Reyes Luna [04/02/2015 7:14 PM]
what can you say about this, a hyper grace’ statement of faith in the Philippines ? https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-coalition-of-radical-grace-mindanao-crgm/radical-grace/285065145012100/?refid=18&_ft_&_rdr
Ermar Reyes Luna [04/02/2015 7:44 PM]
a Hyper Grace teacher answers 5 common objections :
Публикувахте от Leopoldo Solis в Понеделник, 25 август 2014 г.
what can you say bro/sis?
John Kissinger [04/02/2015 7:52 PM]
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/why-im-not-a-calvinist/
Janet Harding [04/03/2015 9:00 AM]
So many people in today’s society cannot admit they are wrong so the hyper grace/radical excuses them from admitting wrong – the words conviction, confession of sin, repentance all involve admitting we are wrong or we need to make a change. I am so glad the Holy Spirit still urges, correccts, convicts – whatever word we want to use even after we are saved to keep us on the narrow road to Him and take our eyes off of “self” and the “world”. I will stick with believing the entire Bible and read the writings of those who still believe in both sides – the God of peace, salvation, love, etc. and judgement, correction,repentance (such as Billy Graham, Charles Stanley, Dr. David Jeremiah and many others who still teach/preach the true/full Gospel of salvation and grace.
Varnel Watson
staying away from the HYPER grace baptist movement Link Hudson Joe Absher we are asking HOW much grace is needed for salvation? Is any and ALL grace saving? What follows next…
Link Hudson
Did I ask that?
Link Hudson
I would not say all grace is saving. If miracles are done by grace, didn’t Judas work miracles?
I remember reading parts of Jonathan Edwards book on religious affections. He described things as ‘truly gracious’ or not. As I recall he believed Saul’s sorrow wasnot truly gracious. It seems he associated grace with salvation, too stronly in my opinion. In Calvinist lingo, even, there is ‘common grace’ not necessarily leading to salvation.
Aberdeen Chan
https://www.facebook.com/notes/aberdeen-chan/testimony-of-lindsay-lim-new-creation-church/10160657570795207/
Ray E Horton
Grace should be seen “hyper.” Hyper grace = abundant grace. 2 Cor 4:15, “For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.” Acts 4:33 (NASB), “And with great power the apostles were giving testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all.” “Abundant” here is Gr. “pleonazō” Strong G4121 where “superabound” is one of the meanings – sounds like “hyper” to me. God’s grace is “hyper-grace.” By comparison, liberal churches that preach or allow license or Universalism have a counterfeit grace.
Varnel Watson
Ray E Horton there is a whole hyper grace movement that disagrees Aberdeen Chan cant see the link What is it about? Link Hudson the question was asked many moons ago by Ermar Reyes Luna
Aberdeen Chan
I just turn it to public. Please try again.
Link Hudson
The use of tags was easily misinterpreted.
Varnel Watson
Grace lifted you or grace tagged you?
Varnel Watson
same as FREE grace RichardAnna Boyce Not much difference At least not theological difference Not really https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiTtBbmycMQ&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR1a73eZr0kxuM9Jzsc9pphyLSAG9gPF16dN_1sQcOYejJv84kqJl6_Tp7o
RichardAnna Boyce
The Hyper Grace that pastor Ken Legg teaches is the same as Free Grace that i teach, and Ken is my pastor when i visit my family on Gold Coast Australia. It is Biblical Rom 5:20 huperperisseuo (grace abounded much more) and if you dont teach hypergrace in your church then you are in trouble as your grace wont be sufficient to cover the sin that abounds in your church, as in Rom 5:20. It is slightly different to the hyper grace that Joseph Prince is labelled with, as JP’s HG doesnt include Reward Theology being the accountability for sanctification in a believer’s life. This difference is outlined in IS JOSEPH PRINCE FREE GRACE attached next so you can read and inform the group please.
Louise Cummings
I will take what the Bible says. By Grace, through Faith we are saved. Thank
Louise Cummings
The Bible does say. Where sin abounds. Grace does much more abound.
Lyndsey Dunn
Hyper! Unorthodox teaching of getting everything possible from God at initial believing with no need for repentance, holy living, sanctification or discipleship. Teaches that all you do is mentally change your mind believing who Jesus is and that Jesus does it all with no responsibility falling on yourself. Teaches that you don’t need any of the disciplines of the faith like tithing, fasting, giving, serving, praying, and its logic certainly does not allow for indwelling and baptism of the Holy Spirit. It is a false teaching! Even satan believes. Scripturally, You need repentance and faith in action. Faith in action is the key to all the benefits of grace. You can’t preach just one part of all the gospel leaving everything else out. Orthodox teaching preaches grace and faith, and holiness, and repentance, and all of scriptural guidance for all parts of life. To preach faith and not grace is hyper faith. We could pick any part of the gospel and emphasize it to the point that it distorts the whole picture. Let’s preach a balanced word with all the promises and direction of God. In other words the true gospel. Grace is not a person, Jesus is a person, the Holy Spirit is a person, God is a Person. Why waste time on esoterical teachings that have to be created and otherwise would never be understood from a direct reading of scripture. These abstruse heresies deter from the intended message of the Gospel that changes lives and saves us and removes our sin empowering us to live righteous lives following the character of Jesus. By teaching only the grace aspect of God you leave out all the other truths making the gospel out to be partially true and ultimately a lie.
Varnel Watson
TRUE Lyndsey Dunn grace is neither free nor hyper Calvinists dont think any repentance is needed cause God saves you anyway Oh well – free grace calvinists will be surprised one day
RichardAnna Boyce
Romans 5:20-21 Amplified Bible (AMP)
20 But the Law came to increase and expand [the awareness of] the trespass [by defining and unmasking sin]. But where sin increased, [God’s remarkable, gracious gift of] grace [His unmerited favor] has surpassed it and increased all the more (huperperisseuo (grace abounded much more)), 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, so also grace would reign through righteousness which brings eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
RichardAnna Boyce
Repentance is COMPULSORY for a believer to earn rewards in the Millennium.
Lyndsey Dunn
RichardAnna Boyce repentance is an issue of the heart not just just your mind. God will judge both your actions and intent. You have not been washed by the blood of Jesus if you are not clean. Mystical cleanliness based on “right” thinking” living in faux righteousness while still walking in sin is a lie of the devil. The gospel washes us pure into righteousness and changes our hearts and minds by the word and the power of the Spirit. There is no law against the fruit bore by the indwelling of the Spirit. There are plenty of laws against the acts of the flesh manifest in sin. Even most of the world understands basic difference of righteousness and evil. There is no power in a gospel that leaves you in sin and does not change you. According to scripture, those who preach these false teachings will fall under harsh judgement having led so many astray.
RichardAnna Boyce
belief governs thinking, which then governs feeling, which finally governs behaving. I repeat Repentance is COMPULSORY for a believer to earn rewards in the Millennium. Repentance is changing our belief and agreeing with God. Sure, we need to talk to Daddy about our sinful heart when our concsience needs to; but then we need to agree with Dad that we already have the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
Varnel Watson
free HYPER grace is a heresy of course; what else?
RichardAnna Boyce
Romans 5:20-21 Amplified Bible (AMP)
20 But the Law came to increase and expand [the awareness of] the trespass [by defining and unmasking sin]. But where sin increased, [God’s remarkable, gracious gift of] grace [His unmerited favor] has surpassed it and increased all the more (huperperisseuo (grace abounded much more)), 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, so also grace would reign through righteousness which brings eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Law is costly and brings curses; huperperisseuo grace abounded much more, and is FREE.
Varnel Watson
anything hyper is heretical in my Book
Mark D Knight
The word Hyper is from loan words of the greek where it meant “excess or exaggeration” in this since it is wrong. However it is also defined as energetic from that meaning I pray and hope I am energetic about His grace.
RichardAnna Boyce
is it wrong to say (huperperisseuo (grace abounded much more, in exaggerated excess than what we can imagine), when sin increased?
Mark D Knight
I do believe that His grace is much more than we can imagine. We get caught up on words like Hyper in one since I believe it is Hyper in the since of energetic. However I believe there is balance.
Varnel Watson
anything hyper is heretical in my Book