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| PentecostalTheology.comWe have received numerous reports of Christians who are experiencing heavy mental warfare and oppression. Last night about 2:30 the Lord spoke to me about breaking the word curses the occult is speaking and the incantations they are using this month. The satanists and witches both confess they are uniting to hinder everyone from ministers to the President. But I have a word for you!
In 1980 a young Satanists attended my Northport revival and was delivered from demonic influence, because her group had attempted to curse me out of town and the curses spoken were coming back at the group and making them sick. Here is the word from the Lord!
When Ballam attempted to curse Israel, the words failed because Ballam admitted, “You cannot curse what the Lord has blessed!” The NT tells us that “Christ has redeemed us from the curse…” A curse only works if you are in fear and not faith and if you do not expose it and send it back.
This entire weekend, we as believers need to rebuke the influence of demonic activity and command the words curses spoken return to the sender (Psa. 64). The blood of Jesus is far more powerful than the blood of a voodoo chicken or a dead goat! The false prophets of Baal could not produce fire from their dead god and Elijah prayed to Yahvah and the fire fell!
Also, part of our mental pressure is this is a major election cycle, and I have tracked this for 24 years that on every major election cycle the atmosphere shifts before the election. A spirit of heaviness and oppression blankets the nation. There has never been more liars and haters in DC than there are now, especially among the left. Such hatred opens the doors to the demonic, and sadly, they don’t even know it. Remember our GOD is greater and use your WORDS which release spiritual authority in the great name of Yeshua the Christ! Jesus is Lord! RETURN THE CURSE TO THE SENDER!
Varnel Watson
SO I’ve been wanting to comment on this one all day but just getting a chance Link Hudson I am tagging you because you’ve shown some concern in spiritual deliverance I think it was Joe Absher who sent it Robert Borders what do you think after reading it?
Varnel Watson
So I see Link Hudson is staying out of this one and rightfully so. Simple cherry picking BIBLE verses will not work here. Ricky Grimsley will probably attest that I like ol’ Perry, but several things confuse me in this here brief statement he just made
First OFF, great timing. Witching seasons is upon us. {I may even dress up like Charles Page on the 31st Alan Smith 😉
But now satanists and witches both confess they are uniting to hinder to the President? Shall a kingdom divided stands? Nelson Banuchi
Then there is the Ballam reference “You cannot curse what the Lord has blessed!” but can they curse Christians who have sinned and separated from God to put themselves under sin? Then a curse does not only work with fear but with sin too
Then we have the “Yahvah” spelling that Tom Steele and others may not approve
Finally a spiritual warfare over the election cycle tracked this for 24 years sounds more like Wallnau
The major election cycle the atmosphere shifts before the election is called Hurricane season in this part of our hemisphere and happens every year about this time NOT just during election seasons. For most Elections are just scheduled in the fall
We also may need some more STRONG New Testament support for a prayer like: Lord! RETURN THE CURSE TO THE SENDER!
Robert Erwine
you can’t curse what God has already condemned . also curses are not real , anyone who believes that is naive and I will prove they do not exist !
Varnel Watson
So Robert Erwine what is then Dt. 28 if not real?
Scott Lencke
Is October a special month of curses?
Diana Kay Miller Sheek
My son went to hear him when he was in Middletown a few weeks ago.
Varnel Watson
Seems to be acceptable to suggest that lots of witchcraft goes around All Saints Scott Lencke http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/gird-the-loins-of-your-mind-against-witchcraft-imaginations-during-season-with-heavy-demonic-activities/
Scott Lencke
October is when the Reformation happened, All Saints Day, and usually when the Feast if Tabernacles takes place. Lots of great things happening & being remembered by groups of religious-spiritual people & their numbers far outweigh those folk who are interested in wicked curses.
Varnel Watson
true BUT I dont see the political connotation of American reality being that prominent in the said context as the article post may have desired Just my c2
Jevan Little
A gimmick pioneered by Bob Larsen
Link Hudson
I don’t really have much of an opinion on this one way or another. It sounds really ‘charismatic’ to me. It’s not really the way I think, but I am not going to come out against this year.
I don’t know why anyone would use a ‘v’ in Yahweh, or why he goes with a different vowel there. The believe is that it was originally a ‘w’ sound, and Ashkenazi Jews pronounce it as a ‘v’ but it is still transliterated with a ‘w’ even if you use that pronunciation. So why change the spelling.
Varnel Watson
I dont think the V is an error Tom Steele will soon tell us that it was the V and not the W the Jews actually use What about this spiritual political warfare mambo jambo?
Link Hudson
Troy Day do you know any other Semitic languages that went with ‘v’? Why would the scholars be wrong?
Tom Steele
Link Hudson
Tom Steele semitic…fat thumb small buttons.
Tom Steele
I’m just confused, as always, to what in the world Troy is trying to say. The dude makes less and less sense every day. I don’t know how he thinks he’s qualified to run a group about any type of “theology”, Pentecostal or otherwise.
Link Hudson
Tom Steele He thinks you support the idea of a V sound as the original pronunciation of waw.
Tom Steele
Don’t know where he got that idea from. I think I have been pretty adamant about what I believe regarding the proper name of the Father: Yahweh.
Tom Steele
If he read my article on this topic, I’m pretty sure he would understand my position. Unless he has read it and does know where I stand and is intentionally trying to stir up confusion.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/truth-ignited/the-sacred-name-of-god/942363465925087/
Varnel Watson
Tom Steele How does a JEW pronounces YHWH – do they pronounce W as a vow or as hard V as in Yehovah? Please tell us so Link Hudson be clear on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLMPZrFom3Q
Tom Steele
Troy Day I wouldn’t give Nehemiah Gordon the time of day. He is a Kairite Jew who openly renounces Yeshua/Jesus as Messiah, teaches against the virgin birth, and appears to be a counter-missionary. Read the article I posted, it completely destroys his bogus position.
Varnel Watson
So are you saying Yehovah is not to be pronounced Yehovah? Because except attacking me in your usual unbecoming manner you dont really answer the only question I asked you Just clarifying that would be sufficient
Tom Steele
I am saying, as I have before, that Jehovah/Yehovah is a fake name based on misunderstanding. Yes, if you are to write it out like that I suppose it would be pronounced like that. The problem is that it was NEVER supposed to be written like that in the first place. So, in that sense, NO, God’s name is not supposed to be pronounced as Jehovah/Yehovah.
Varnel Watson
The letters YUD HEY VAV HEY (YHWH) stand for the 4 Hebrew consonants in the name of GOD The letter VAV is pronounced “V” and the whole name is prnounced YEHOVAH.
A further source for evidence in cuneiform is the Murashu texts.
The Murashu texts are Aramaic texts written in cuneiform script on clay tablets found at Nippur.
These texts date back to 464 to 404 B.C.E. and contain many Jewish names transcribed in cuneiform with the vowels and contain divine name in the name.
first portion of which appears as YEHO just as in yehoVAH
Link Hudson
Troy Day From taking classes at the religion dapartment at UGA, including a bit of Hebrew, from conversations with a Hebrew prof who studied in Israel where he also did personal evangelism, and other readings, my impression is that it is generally accepted that the most likely pronunciation was Yahweh. The v sound from Yiddish influence. My professor said the oroginal pronunciation was likely W. I believe this may be supported by hisorical linguistics. The name Iehovah from taking the vowels underneath does not match the pattern of how the vowel pointing system works and has been traced back to one Italian monk who likely did not know the vowels from Adonai were put there by the Masoretes so as to deter people from saying the divine name. My understanding is that these are ‘majority scholarship’ positions.
My Hebrew proff taught is to read waw as ‘vav’ and explained that seminaries snd Bible colleges often lronounced it vav and taight people to print the old script instead of writing in modern Hebrew cursive.
Link Hudson
Troy Day Yeho- shows up in certain names. Fong Fong posted a reference to ‘Yahweh’ being attested to in Greek writings.
Varnel Watson
Yes the Hebrew historitan Josephus made one and only reference to the tetragram and spelled / translitarated it in Grerk in his writing on ONLY occasion
This however does NOT change the fact that the Heb. letter VAV is pronounced VAV
Anyhow, can you make your point already? Are you trying to say that the V has to do with vodoo magic or that it is ANY way significant to Perry’s post? Perry spelled it right as a Jew – end of story Link Hudson
Link Hudson
Troy Day, so do you think the Ancient Hebrews said sukkus or sukkot? Come on. Ashkenazic pronunciation is all mixed up with High German. I learned about this at the undergraduate level-second hand, but i’d venture to guess the w/v mix-up most likely comes from the Germanic influence. My prof might have even said that. I might have even asked the question. This was over 20 years ago.
This is the Sephardic/middle eastern tradition of pronunciation of the alphabet: . Arabaic says waw using the ‘W’ sound, not ‘vav’. It’s a Semitic language.
Ashkenazic pronunciation has more letters that have the same pronunciation than Sephardic. From a linguistics perspective, languages tend to simplify, so it is more likely the Sephardic pronunciation retained more original pronunciation than Ashkenazic. Their pronunciation may have been influenced by Arabic, not German. But Arabic is a Semitic language, and so may have been a lot closer to the original pronunciation of Hebrew to begin with.
Syriac also has a ‘w’ sound, not ‘v’.
Here is another bit of evidence, the fact that Phonecian, a language closely related to Hebrew used their waw sound as the vowel ‘u’. How are they going to do that with the letter v?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZs6rchslY
Can you name one Semitic language where the waw is
pronounced like a ‘w’ outside of the Ashkenazi, Germanic influenced accent of Hebrew? Can you name one serious linguistics scholar who says historically it was ‘vav’?
Varnel Watson
good string of irrelevant red herrings? VAV is VAV It is pronounced V not W Take Hebrew They teach you that
Link Hudson
Troy Day You apparently didn’t get the full Hebrew education. Look it up. The Sephardic pronunciation, which is likely closer to the original pronunciation, say ‘waw.’ I know Ashkenazi say ‘vav.’ We learned ‘vav’ but spelled it ‘vav.’ I offered good evidence for my view.
Do you think the linguistics and Hebrew scholars don’t know what they are talking about, but that you are right?
Varnel Watson
I only took couple years as required but enough to learn that the letter VAV is pronounced V in Yehovah Suppose you are still stuck on this because you see some magic power in October focused in the way they Ashton Nazi say ‘vav.
Link Hudson
Troy Day ate you talking to me? I did not say anything about magical power in October. Your response was weird.
Syrian communities using the voiced fricative v sound likesome evidence. That was the 1800’s though and it is possible there was some imigration from northern Europe even back then. I would want to consider arguments from historical linguists and how W/V was handled in the High German that evolved into Yiddish.
This site says the original pronunciation was w.
Link Hudson
There was a consonant shift in High German which shifted W to V. https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/22872/when-did-the-sounds-of-w-and-v-change-in-high-german
Yiddish derived from high German. Yiddish was the language of Ashkenazi Jews.
Here is an artical on waw. It also addresses the cpaim from a Nehemiah Ezekiel video. http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/m/alphabet_letters_vav.html
Anotherbpage that deals with this. https://www.quora.com/Was-the-6th-letter-of-the-Scriptural-Hebrew-waw-or-vav
Varnel Watson
except if you see the V vs W in HEBREW as magical power shift in October you are way off topic. If you see my initial comment I also expressed concerns with the V used by Perry thought VAV is pretty common V sound and has nothing in high German If anything some V are pronounced as B like in Bethshebbaah, Baal, Babylon and so on but this is ALL way off topic. Except of course you see magical power shift from using V instead of W Also not sure how to indicate talking to you without using the mention option which you have now blocked
Link Hudson
Troy Day i have not blocked mention option but I may use it down the line.
Varnel Watson
well it’s not an option anymore so I dont know how to indicate the proper direction of the conversation I’ve chosen to do it this way so take it or leave It’s all the same to me
Joe Absher
I read it. It was helpful. There is no blessing like obedience and no curse like rebellion. I found my liberty on the streets again today. One prayer for salvation. Jesus is that good!
Varnel Watson
That prayer in Halloween october is a must is true Scott Lencke did you add october fest to your list – its very prominent among the theology on tap folk Jevan Little woudnt you say casting out demons was more of a Jesus trademark long before Larsen?
Joe Absher
The market place of ideas
Jevan Little
Yes BUT not just around halloween
Varnel Watson
Jevan Little no one is saying just around but that around this time they get more aggressive What else were you talking about?
Jevan Little
But why be more agressive? Is Satan stronger during the fall? Tying this stuff into halloween seems gimmicky
Varnel Watson
Well I guess this is for us to determine
Joe Absher
I thought the piece was helpful and timely. “A word to the wise is sufficient.” as my old Sargent used to say.
Varnel Watson
I would say it is high time for the list of prayers
Joe Absher
Did we ever settle on a prayer for salvation?
Varnel Watson
Salvation, deliverance and sanctification, baptism
Varnel Watson
William DeArteaga october warning seems much more real now – not just a masking ball anymore https://www.wcvb.com/article/pittsburgh-synagogue-attack/24316764
Ron Culbreth
In the last days, perilous time shall come……..
Anna Zambelli
If you click on the link, the deliverance prayer link is actually an advertisement for use of a prayer camp, like a brochure … no deliverance prayer
Varnel Watson
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Part 6: Prophetic Signs and Warnings of SPIRITUAL WARFARE
http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/spiritual-warfare-online-encyclopedia-and-demonic-deliverance-self-study-guide-part-3-spiritual-warfare-strategies/
Anna Zambelli
Troy Day okay I tried it again. And it didn’t work again just like I said the first time. Can you copy the Deliverance Prayer into a reply here? Maybe you’ll see why I’m having problems. Thanks for all your help
Varnel Watson
ALL 7 (SEVEN) listings in the link below are links to specific categories of DELIVERANCE PRAYERS by various authors Many more to come in Part 5 tomorrow http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/spiritual-warfare-online-encyclopedia-and-demonic-deliverance-self-study-guide-part-4-spiritual-warfare-prayers/?fbclid=IwAR0RW4MVrGCNHBjzTZsjP1ZpUXrSbhN4fWzkSQY-_xFaJa-AyfsH2ed9vJU
Varnel Watson
more specific deliverance prayers here http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/?s=+Olukoya
Gerardo de Dominicis
Returning “curses” to the sender? You mean cursing people. Not biblical. Jesus said that we should bless and be a blessing not cursing anyone.
Anna Zambelli
Gerardo de Dominicis see the Old Testament it’s all over the place
Gerardo de Dominicis
Anna Zambelli See the New Testament. If you believe that you can curse someone then you are working with the wrong spirit. The Holy Spirit came to help us testify of Christ and to bring people to Christ. When the apostles wanted to make fire fall down from heaven and consume the cities were their message was rejected, Christ said: you don’t know to which Spirit you belong to. When sending curses, witches use demons to go and afflict people, so you want to send those same demons to the people? Unscriptural, diabolical and dangerous.
Anna Zambelli
Gerardo de Dominicis obviously you haven’t read the old or new
Anna Zambelli
Gerardo de Dominicis I will send you some verses when I get off of work
Gerardo de Dominicis
I’ve been the thing is I don’t take descriptive passages as mandatory passages, there are not commandments to send curses back to it sender. That’s diabolical and evil spirited. Why I Christian would want to do evil or damage an other person? That’s a response from the flesh not the spirit of God.
Anna Zambelli
Anna Zambelli first I want to say that Derek Prince wrote a book on blessings and curses throughout the Bible it’s called blessings and curses. The versus I got from derek Prince’s book: Deuteronomy chapter 7 verse 25 to 26, Deuteronomy chapter 30 verse 19, Deuteronomy chapter 28 verse 45 to 46; proverbs chapter 18 verse 21. James chapter 3 verse 8 through 10. Any questions let me know. I will look it up for you
Gerardo de Dominicis
Anna Zambelli ok, thank you. I will check those verses.
Gerardo de Dominicis
I read those verses and aren’t about Christians sending curses back to the original sender. Those verses are about being holy, to choose life (God), that God would curse the Israelites if they don’t follow the law, then the text in proverbs isn’t about curses nor anything like that, the text in James is about Christians with a dirty mouth (like saying “damn” or “you damn” when talking to others) which actually contradict the teaching of sending curses back.
Romans 12:9-21 is very clear about the christian behavior and specially verses 9, 14 and 17; also we read in Luke 9:51-56 how Jesus reprended the apostles for trying to damage the lives of some people; in Job 1:9 we read that God protects his children and if any damage occurs is because God ley is happened for a specific reason and furthermore in Mathew 5:39-44 we read Jesus words about what he expect from us and he specifically said: to don’t curse but to bless. So sending curses back to its sender isn’t biblical and contradicts the teachings of Jesus and Paul.
Varnel Watson
another set of deliverance prayers that even Gerardo can pray http://www.pentecostaltheology.com/spiritual-warfare-online-encyclopedia-and-demonic-deliverance-self-study-guide-part-5-all-the-deliverance-rpayers-of-dr-d-k-olukoya/
Varnel Watson
Link Hudson How does the Asian church handle October season? Do they believe in generational curses there too?
Link Hudson
Asia is a big place. I am not aware of a local October occultic-focused holiday in Indonesia.
Varnel Watson
what about Navaratri and Dussehra ? Dont Durga battle the buffalo demon Mahishasuran during that time? Isnt that the most popular incarnation of Devi[L] and one of the main forms of the false demon goddess Shakti ??? Link
Link Hudson
Troy Day I did not live in Bali. I am not extremely familiar with Hinduism. They give everyone Nyepi off in Indonesia, but most people don’t know much about it if anything. Hindus are a small percentage of the population and most of them live in certain areas.
Varnel Watson
How did you do mission work without knowing basic things about the local culture?
Link Hudson
Troy Day I worked in Indonesia and preached as opportunities arose. I started preaching over there.
But Hindus are few and far between where I lived. I went to Bali-where Hindus are concentratedonce for less than a week. There were lots of Muslims where I lived.
Terry Wiles
Did the Apostle Paul spend time with this or did he stick to preaching the Gospel?
Anna Zambelli
Terry Wiles the apostles Followed what Jesus did. Jesus preached heal the sick and cast out demons and raise the Dead that means the apostles did all of these two you just need to read the book of Acts. Also to this day all of these things are being done . read Derek Prince’s biography. Today most preachers leave out from their Ministry all of what Jesus did but it is actually required. John Chapter 14 verse 12 and 13 also Luke chapter 10 verse 17 to 19 .?
Louise Cummings
That’s great Link Hudson.